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Maelochs 09-04-21 08:47 PM

Yo, Indyfabz .... I always figured you for a big LL Cool J fan ....

:D

Chuck M 09-04-21 08:50 PM

In my experience it depends on the bike, the saddle, the ride and the rider. It is too cold here for me to ride regularly year round. In the early parts of my cycling season, I have to toughen my tuchus. Once I have that done, shorter 20 or so mile rides are fine in running shorts. Longer rides I like padded shorts.

I wish GPS would have been around in the late 70s because I'm pretty sure I rode more miles in cutoff jean shorts than I do now in lycra.

Branko D 09-04-21 10:32 PM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 22215320)
I have found quite a few very affordable pieces of very functional, stylish cycling clothing from non-name manufacturers. There are those who can afford Assos, Castelli and other high end brands, but what I have found does what it is supposed to do for cooling, wicking and comfort on 50-60 mile rides and saves me a lot of coin. No need to wear cargo shorts and T shirts (unless you want to) when you can find affordable cycling specific clothing for a few dollars more.

Yeah, good quality clothes can be found at reasonable prices. Having the actual premium level stuff, the budget offerings aren't that good but you get 90% of the product for 50-30% of the price.

My go to training clothes are one-piece roadsuits from Decathlon, which is an European big box sports store chain, which are their top shelf stuff at around 100 Euro a piece. They're just good in every way. Sure, Castelli road suit has slightly better materials but it cost basically double. Perfectly usable although basic bike shorts can be had for under 10€ and I have a stack of those which I use for the indoor trainer and the odd training ride, never given me grief. I have an Aliexpress trisuit which I use for training and used in races without issue which cost under $50 (just have to size up ordering from China - I wear S in Euro sizing, XS in USA sizing and L in Chinese)
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So, you don't need to spend a ton. That said, I do love my Castelli stuff.

caloso 09-04-21 11:59 PM

The more comfortable I am, the more I enjoy the ride, and I am most comfortable in good quality, well fitted jersey and bibs. I’m a big believer in paying whatever is necessary for contact points, so I don’t cheap out on saddles, shoes, bibs, etc.

That said, if I’m just riding to work, I typically just wear office clothes.

Retro Grouch 09-05-21 12:56 AM

It matters. Bicycling is a tribal sport. For such a simple activity, there seems to be a very large number of tribal variations. The clothes that you choose to wear tell the rest of us to which tribe you belong.

ChamoisDavisJr 09-05-21 01:41 AM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 22214965)
This is a perennially popular subject for trollery and inverse snobbery

Lurking on this and other cycling forums and I’ve seen way more of the snobbery going towards the lycra crowd than from the lycra crowd.

Lazyass 09-05-21 01:53 AM

Floppy clothes on road rides suck. Especially shirts unless you never want to carry anything in jersey pockets. Stop caring what people may think when they see you. This seems to be the main issue.

Germany_chris 09-05-21 03:31 AM

Cycling clothes that look like normal clothes exist. There’s a time and place for tight jerseys and bibs as well as normal clothes

Maelochs 09-05-21 04:56 AM

Do clothes matter?

Why ask me? Do your own experiment.

First day, go for a 20 mile ride in full cycling gear, the best you can beg or borrow.

Next day, same ride, cut-offs, flip-flops, tank top.

Third day, go naked.

In most of the places I have ridden .... the answers will be absolutely clear by the end of the test.

wolfchild 09-05-21 05:41 AM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22215330)

BTW, I find cotton extremely comfortable and cooling. A lot of people do. That's why t shirts are go to summer wear for so many people.

I heard people say that cotton kills but my experience tells me otherwise. I've never heard of anybody getting killed by cotton.

livedarklions 09-05-21 06:24 AM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 22215697)
Do clothes matter?

Why ask me? Do your own experiment.

First day, go for a 20 mile ride in full cycling gear, the best you can beg or borrow.

Next day, same ride, cut-offs, flip-flops, tank top.

Third day, go naked.

In most of the places I have ridden .... the answers will be absolutely clear by the end of the test.


I think the funny thing about this thread is that the OP seems to have run that experiment and discovered they really don't want to wear cycling kit. They're uncomfortable with that because a bunch of people are telling them that's wrong.

That said, I agree with you that op should experiment with this with the new road bike. OP already has the clothes, but wasn't using them much anymore.

livedarklions 09-05-21 06:29 AM


Originally Posted by UnCruel (Post 22214839)
I own some lycra shorts and some cycling jerseys, and I've worn them, but these days I mostly find myself wearing civilian t-shirt and shorts when I ride. On a FB group awhile back, someone was asking for recommendations on clothing, and I was about to respond to the effect that it hardly matters, but then I saw someone had posted quite the opposite, suggesting it's very important and that you should spend as much as you can afford, because you get what you pay for. That exchange has been sulking in the back of my head for awhile. Now I've just acquired my first legit road bike, and I'm wondering what I'm missing in the clothing department.

I thought I'd ask the group here: What benefits do cycling wear bring, and how significant are those benefits?


This isn't an argument or a suggestion, just info. I rode my road bike 100 miles yesterday and am about to take a 70 mile ride on it today. Both days, I'm wearing tight tshirts and cargo shorts. Been doing this for several years.

PeteHski 09-05-21 07:51 AM


Originally Posted by DonkeyShow (Post 22215479)
Unless your racing anything works

Maybe for you it does. Definitely doesn't work for me though. I find cycling clothing massively more comfortable to ride in than my casual everyday clothing. If it wasn't then I wouldn't bother with it. People who ride a lot can figure this stuff out for themselves and everyone I know who rides a lot wears cycling clothing, of which there is a vast range of options and pricing to suit any budget and style. Even the simple cut (long back, short front, close fitting) and rear pockets of a cycling jersey are enough for me to choose one over say a running jersey.

rydabent 09-05-21 07:53 AM

Not being a cycling Peacock I wear T-shirts, and rugby shorts.

Juan Foote 09-05-21 08:00 AM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 22214965)
This is a perennially popular subject for trollery and inverse snobbery. Aside from that, ride awhile and you'll figure out what you like.:rolleyes:


This thread is over. Winner (chicken dinner).

Russ Roth 09-05-21 08:01 AM

My preferred outfit is cargo shorts, a t-shirt and wool boxer briefs unless I'm racing. Cycling clothing matters a lot for speed, there's lots of wind tests from Zipp, Specialized, Trek, GCN and others that show how much of an effect loose clothing can have on speed. Comfort-wise I don't like padded shorts and for me they create rubbing issues, I don't find cotton to be that bad and I like my comfort. All up to you

Turnip5 09-05-21 08:29 AM

I guess
 
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Turnip5 09-05-21 08:29 AM

Fff
 
I just like what’s comfortable .

RChung 09-05-21 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by UnCruel (Post 22214839)
I thought I'd ask the group here: What benefits do cycling wear bring, and how significant are those benefits?

Ride nekkid and see how far you get. Whether that's significant depends on whether you do this in front of a furry convention.

Rolla 09-05-21 09:53 AM

For me, the only important aspects are the contact points: feet, hands, and butt. I wear clothing that keeps those parts comfortable, functional, and protected. I rarely concern myself with the rest of the ensemble.

WhyFi 09-05-21 10:04 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22215862)
Not being a cycling Peacock I wear T-shirts, and rugby shorts.

Yeah, I've found that apparel doesn't matter much when I'm in the recliner, either.

livedarklions 09-05-21 10:27 AM


Originally Posted by rydabent (Post 22215862)
Not being a cycling Peacock I wear T-shirts, and rugby shorts.


I think I'd pay money to see a cycling peacock.

Nice childish name-calling, btw.

genejockey 09-05-21 10:32 AM


Originally Posted by DonkeyShow (Post 22215479)
Unless your racing anything works unless your going for those strava mup koms. But of course you got the "I wear the most expensive **** just because it happens to work best for me" crowd.

Unless my racing...what?

AdkMtnMonster 09-05-21 10:33 AM

BF never, and I mean never EVER, disappoints. Who would buy/wear cycling-specific apparel whilst actually cycling? Who, on BF, actually rides? (Hint: it’s the same people.)

Who wears Homer Depose clothing, cotton pants, work gloves and workshop safety glasses with their flat pedals when they roll out for their thrice-monthly “ride” around the sidewalks? No hints needed. ;)

There are reasons why cycling clothing exists, just as there are reasons for swimwear. Sure, you can jump off a rope swing in cutoff jeans, and you’ll still get wet. Not very many lap-swimmers in cutoff jeans, though. Yeah, you can throw a football in office attire. I wanna see you take a hit behind the line dressed like that. Et cetera, et tu, Brutus, and Peter Cetera.

livedarklions 09-05-21 10:38 AM


Originally Posted by ChamoisDavisJr (Post 22215650)
Lurking on this and other cycling forums and I’ve seen way more of the snobbery going towards the lycra crowd than from the lycra crowd.


I'm definitely in the non-lycra camp as far as my habits go, but as far as this thread, I agree with you. I want nothing to do with the anti-kit wearing insults.

Saves a lot of aggravation if we don't assume our rightful place in the world is to convince others of the errors of their ways. There's entirely too much of that on both sides of this completely trivial issue.

livedarklions 09-05-21 10:51 AM


Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster (Post 22216093)
BF never, and I mean never EVER, disappoints. Who would buy/wear cycling-specific apparel whilst actually cycling? Who, on BF, actually rides? (Hint: it’s the same people.)

Who wears Homer Depose clothing, cotton pants, work gloves and workshop safety glasses with their flat pedals when they roll out for their thrice-monthly “ride” around the sidewalks? No hints needed. ;)

There are reasons why cycling clothing exists, just as there are reasons for swimwear. Sure, you can jump off a rope swing in cutoff jeans, and you’ll still get wet. Not very many lap-swimmers in cutoff jeans, though. Yeah, you can throw a football in office attire. I wanna see you take a hit behind the line dressed like that. Et cetera, et tu, Brutus, and Peter Cetera.


Oh, look everybody, Cycling Kit Karen is back. You never fail to disappoint by posting this same insipid "no true Scotsman" nonsense. I'm pretty sure I ride at least as much as you do and I'm pretty intense when I ride. This forum is chock full of people who ride a lot and don't wear cycling clothes. This upsets you for some reason, and you never get tired of making sure everyone knows you don't approve. Maybe give it a rest for a while? "Cycling clothes exist so you need to wear them or you're not really cycling" is a pretty lame thing to assert once let alone repeat in several threads.

rsbob 09-05-21 10:59 AM


Originally Posted by Branko D (Post 22215569)
Yeah, good quality clothes can be found at reasonable prices. Having the actual premium level stuff, the budget offerings aren't that good but you get 90% of the product for 50-30% of the price.

My go to training clothes are one-piece roadsuits from Decathlon, which is an European big box sports store chain, which are their top shelf stuff at around 100 Euro a piece. They're just good in every way. Sure, Castelli road suit has slightly better materials but it cost basically double. Perfectly usable although basic bike shorts can be had for under 10€ and I have a stack of those which I use for the indoor trainer and the odd training ride, never given me grief. I have an Aliexpress trisuit which I use for training and used in races without issue which cost under $50 (just have to size up ordering from China - I wear S in Euro sizing, XS in USA sizing and L in Chinese)
​​​​​
So, you don't need to spend a ton. That said, I do love my Castelli stuff.

Thanks for the tip. Just ordered 2 pairs of hiking shorts. Have one jersey on back order

genejockey 09-05-21 11:04 AM

Here's the thing - if you wear what my wife likes to refer to as "Bike Togs" because of what other people will think of you, or if you AVOID wearing them because of what other people will think of you, you're letting other people tell you what to do. Wear what works, as long as it's legal*, and assume others are doing the same.

*(because that's the one case where you should let people tell you what to do)

AdkMtnMonster 09-05-21 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22216120)
This forum is chock full of people who ride a lot and don't wear cycling clothes.

This forum is also chock full o’ nuts. Welcome. Try not to sound so wounded about imaginary people mocking you personally for wearing street clothes while “riding” your bike with intensity. No one in this post cares about what you wear, personally. It’s not about you. True talk, HTFU. :)

People can do whatever they want, and, well, they will. Good times…

livedarklions 09-05-21 02:06 PM


Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster (Post 22216093)
BF never, and I mean never EVER, disappoints. Who would buy/wear cycling-specific apparel whilst actually cycling? Who, on BF, actually rides? (Hint: it’s the same people.)

Who wears Homer Depose clothing, cotton pants, work gloves and workshop safety glasses with their flat pedals when they roll out for their thrice-monthly “ride” around the sidewalks? No hints needed. ;)

There are reasons why cycling clothing exists, just as there are reasons for swimwear. Sure, you can jump off a rope swing in cutoff jeans, and you’ll still get wet. Not very many lap-swimmers in cutoff jeans, though. Yeah, you can throw a football in office attire. I wanna see you take a hit behind the line dressed like that. Et cetera, et tu, Brutus, and Peter Cetera.


Originally Posted by AdkMtnMonster (Post 22216191)
This forum is also chock full o’ nuts. Welcome. Try not to sound so wounded about imaginary people mocking you personally for wearing street clothes while “riding” your bike with intensity. No one in this post cares about what you wear, personally. It’s not about you. True talk, HTFU. :)

People can do whatever they want, and, well, they will. Good times…

So do you really have no short-term memory or do you really think anyone is stupid enough to miss the generalized insult of anyone who doesn't wear cycling kit in your first post?

BTW, people who are claiming the lycra snobbery doesn't exist on BF, this is your guy.


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