Does Clothing Matter?
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If you had to ride a recumbent all the time, you'd be upset too.

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Re: cotton---I used to ride 100 percent in cotton---or nothing above the waist. Cotton is fine if you keep moving because a lot of sweat can evaporate. However, if you stop, the cotton gets soaked and heavy quickly, and if there is really high humidity it doesn't wick well. Once you stop, ..... after a really hard effort I could wring half a gallon of sweat (about three pounds) out of a cotton T. Without that 15 mph average breeze the cotton wicked Zero.
I stopped wearing cotton--and stopped riding hard ..... either or both work. if you live in even a slightly dry climate or one which isn't really hot while it is humid and vice versa, cotton is okay.
But that is what I have found, and what I chose to do. The rest of you---who cares?
I stopped wearing cotton--and stopped riding hard ..... either or both work. if you live in even a slightly dry climate or one which isn't really hot while it is humid and vice versa, cotton is okay.
But that is what I have found, and what I chose to do. The rest of you---who cares?

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On the upright, I find the same getup tolerable for twenty or thirty miles. But different people seem to have different tolerance for pressure and chafing.
Rear pocket jerseys are useful on bent or upright. I can't use the center pocket on the bent, but the outer ones are great for bars and such. Also, when getting off the bike for water, jersey pockets are great for carrying water bottles, freeing up the hands to open doors and such.
Cotton tees and cargo shorts are pub crawl and coffeeneuring getup.
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I didn't recommend jack, and I certainly never said don't try something. All I said is I'm comfortable in cotton tshirts. I sweat, and the shirts wick the sweat and dry, cooling me off. That's how perspiring is supposed to work, right?!
You have a very creative account of what happened in the other threads that bears no relationship to reality.
This is General Cycling, btw, are you under the impression that GF/ sportive events and club rides are the standard type of riding?
Quit scolding people for saying they wear different stuff than you do.
You have a very creative account of what happened in the other threads that bears no relationship to reality.
This is General Cycling, btw, are you under the impression that GF/ sportive events and club rides are the standard type of riding?
Quit scolding people for saying they wear different stuff than you do.
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Re: cotton---I used to ride 100 percent in cotton---or nothing above the waist. Cotton is fine if you keep moving because a lot of sweat can evaporate. However, if you stop, the cotton gets soaked and heavy quickly, and if there is really high humidity it doesn't wick well. Once you stop, ..... after a really hard effort I could wring half a gallon of sweat (about three pounds) out of a cotton T. Without that 15 mph average breeze the cotton wicked Zero.
I stopped wearing cotton--and stopped riding hard ..... either or both work. if you live in even a slightly dry climate or one which isn't really hot while it is humid and vice versa, cotton is okay.
But that is what I have found, and what I chose to do. The rest of you---who cares?
I stopped wearing cotton--and stopped riding hard ..... either or both work. if you live in even a slightly dry climate or one which isn't really hot while it is humid and vice versa, cotton is okay.
But that is what I have found, and what I chose to do. The rest of you---who cares?

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I took you off the ignore list because I saw a quote of yours on another subject that was really good. You're just insufferable on this one subject. Otherwise, I like reading your posts and discussing stuff with you.
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Re: cotton---I used to ride 100 percent in cotton---or nothing above the waist. Cotton is fine if you keep moving because a lot of sweat can evaporate. However, if you stop, the cotton gets soaked and heavy quickly, and if there is really high humidity it doesn't wick well. Once you stop, ..... after a really hard effort I could wring half a gallon of sweat (about three pounds) out of a cotton T. Without that 15 mph average breeze the cotton wicked Zero.
I stopped wearing cotton--and stopped riding hard ..... either or both work. if you live in even a slightly dry climate or one which isn't really hot while it is humid and vice versa, cotton is okay.
But that is what I have found, and what I chose to do. The rest of you---who cares?
I stopped wearing cotton--and stopped riding hard ..... either or both work. if you live in even a slightly dry climate or one which isn't really hot while it is humid and vice versa, cotton is okay.
But that is what I have found, and what I chose to do. The rest of you---who cares?

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Now you're just lying. You complained about people jumping on you in the shoes thread. I'm literally the only one who responded to your posts in that thread, and that was because you jumped on me for saying I don't wear cycling shoes on platforms.
I took you off the ignore list because I saw a quote of yours on another subject that was really good. You're just insufferable on this one subject. Otherwise, I like reading your posts and discussing stuff with you.
I took you off the ignore list because I saw a quote of yours on another subject that was really good. You're just insufferable on this one subject. Otherwise, I like reading your posts and discussing stuff with you.
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Actually I jumped on you (if that's what you want to call it) for ranting at some other poster who just pointed out that everyone up until that point had suggested literally anything other than cycling shoes. It's just funny on a dedicated cycling forum that's all. As far as I know I've never actually complained about anyone not wearing cycling gear. There is one other guy who goes out of his way to snark at anyone who DOES wear ANY form of cycling gear. I'm sure you can guess who that is, lol. It doesn't bother me what other people wear, but when they start talking **** about cycling wear I can't help myself commenting. Again this is not you I'm referring to. I understand the reasons why you don't wear cycling gear and that's perfectly fine. Please don't take it too seriously, you seem like a decent guy. A bit quirky with your choice of wear and favourite 52-11T gear for riding along, but a decent guy nonetheless!
We all have our quirks, what I like about bf is getting the perspectives of people who ride differently than I do. You'll notice, I hope, that I'm just as intolerant of people who make fun of people who don't ride like I do, either. I got pretty mad at people who were ridiculing men for shaving their legs even though I've never even considered doing that, for example.
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Kum ba yah, man! We'll agree to disagree on what you did on the shoes thread. That other poster was both lying about the range of recommendations and was really quite nasty in how he was referring to people who don't wear cycling gear. I think you missed how insulting his post was, just assuming that people who don't wear cycling gear are somehow deficient as cyclists.
We all have our quirks, what I like about bf is getting the perspectives of people who ride differently than I do. You'll notice, I hope, that I'm just as intolerant of people who make fun of people who don't ride like I do, either. I got pretty mad at people who were ridiculing men for shaving their legs even though I've never even considered doing that, for example.
We all have our quirks, what I like about bf is getting the perspectives of people who ride differently than I do. You'll notice, I hope, that I'm just as intolerant of people who make fun of people who don't ride like I do, either. I got pretty mad at people who were ridiculing men for shaving their legs even though I've never even considered doing that, for example.
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We all have our quirks, what I like about bf is getting the perspectives of people who ride differently than I do. You'll notice, I hope, that I'm just as intolerant of people who make fun of people who don't ride like I do, either. I got pretty mad at people who were ridiculing men for shaving their legs even though I've never even considered doing that, for example.
Then, they came for the Freds, and I did not speak out - because I was not a Fred.
Then, they came for the recumbent riders, and I said, "hell yeah."
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Benefits of proper cycling jersey: carrying capacity and ventilation.
Carrying capacity: Tire levers, co2 inflator and spare tube in the left rear pocket. Phone and snack go in right rear pocked. Filled water bottle goes in the center pocket. You can't do that without wearing a purpose-made jersey unless by adding bags/packs and other paraphernalia.
Ventilation: While you can find dri-fit and mesh shirts, most won't have a full length zipper. Adjusting the zipper position can add quite a bit to comfort, depending on the situation.
There are other lesser benefits for cycling jerseys like fit, gripper elastic lower hems, logos and affiliations and, of course, crisp tan lines.
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To add to Phil's post
Adaptability to weather conditions:
I long distance ride and temps from morning to evening can vary quite a bit. I use arm sleeves, lycra skull cap and knee warmers, as well as a thin shell layer and shoe covers along with my cycling shorts and jersey. This modular approach allows me the minimal amount of "baggage" to be able to adapt from morning chill, mid day sun and even brief showers. They work, are light weight, fold small and avoid the redundancy of having to bring multiple clothing items such as long sleeve shirt/short sleeve shirt, pants/shorts.
Adaptability to weather conditions:
I long distance ride and temps from morning to evening can vary quite a bit. I use arm sleeves, lycra skull cap and knee warmers, as well as a thin shell layer and shoe covers along with my cycling shorts and jersey. This modular approach allows me the minimal amount of "baggage" to be able to adapt from morning chill, mid day sun and even brief showers. They work, are light weight, fold small and avoid the redundancy of having to bring multiple clothing items such as long sleeve shirt/short sleeve shirt, pants/shorts.
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To answer the OP's question, posed in the thread title: "Does Clothing Matter?"
Yes. Try going a day without it.
Yes. Try going a day without it.
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I'm sure the people of Recumba are lovely. Also, my understanding is that if you park one of those contraptions on your roof, you get really great TV reception.
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They would work for cycling too if you didn’t mind the flapping and lack of pockets.
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But, golly, aren't you just so proud of yourself.

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Im heading out for a serious road ride on my serious bike, and I’m wearing serious clothes. Seriously. Later, I might jump on one of my mountain bikes and good around, in a seriously fun manner, wearing baggie cargo shorts and a t-shirt, most likely with a beer theme. Serious fun all around. Conundrum: that mtb I mentioned has clipless pedals but I’ll probably be wearing Merrell hiking shoes. Will it be considered a serious ride or a mixed-media enterprise? Beer for everyone!
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