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Old 10-05-21, 09:49 PM
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Benefit of "fake pedaling"??

I'm wondering if there is benefit of spinning the pedals with no resistance such as when going downhill?

Or just stop spinning and freewheel downhill?
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Old 10-05-21, 09:59 PM
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If it is a short down hill. I use it to stretch the calves, if it is a longer downhill, I spin lightly to keep the legs loose. Of course, there is no science behind it
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Originally Posted by MarcusT View Post
If it is a short down hill. I use it to stretch the calves, if it is a longer downhill, I spin lightly to keep the legs loose. Of course, there is no science behind it
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i read an article somewhere that it helps to remove lactic acid and keeps the muscles warm.
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
I'm wondering if there is benefit of spinning the pedals with no resistance such as when going downhill?

Or just stop spinning and freewheel downhill?
I find spinning with no resistance gets me closer to my gawd. Freewheeling is for the unwashed satan lovers - and you have my word on it!

Actually I never fake pedal unless it is a massive downhill (1/2 mile +) to keep lactic acid away. Most downhills I keep my pedals at 3 and 9 to reduce drag.
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just gave it a try with a casual pedal, faster paced idle pedal, & then no pedaling.

Conclusion; It prevents the hub from being so obnoxiously loud. It is pretty early (late to some party owls) so you can hear the cyclist a town over rip wind as a signal for waiving.
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Old 10-06-21, 01:17 AM
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I find continuous motion to be better. But then, I've got old injuries that can get tighter rather rapidly. If I keep well-stretched, keep moving without long intervals, even if the movement isn't powered movement but is merely the rotating motion of the crank, it helps avoid stiffening.
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Thanks. I actually find it difficult to pedal without resistance and somewhat keep a constant cadence that's why I'm asking but seems like everyone is saying it's a good thing so I'm going to do it. Just remind myself to stop pedaling in the turns!
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Old 10-06-21, 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
I'm wondering if there is benefit of spinning the pedals with no resistance such as when going downhill?

Or just stop spinning and freewheel downhill?
"Coach Fred Matheny Replies: Soft pedaling means turning the crank without applying force. You're actually coasting but with the pedals still going around. ... "

Keeps muscles moving thus more blood flowing helping to minimize cramping
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Old 10-06-21, 05:30 AM
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I do soft pedaling to make those watching think I have a gigantic front ring in use...
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Offroad, before clutched rear derailleurs existed, people used to do this to maintain chain tension to keep the chain on and to keep the chain from rattling around. Out of habit, I still do this.
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As someone previously stated, it keeps the annoying buzzy hubs quiet. Even better, it keeps the owners of said buzzy hubs from making stupid statements about why they like buzzy hubs.
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I often pedal backwards when coasting downhill to get the blood pumping in reverse.
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Originally Posted by cubewheels View Post
I'm wondering if there is benefit of spinning the pedals with no resistance such as when going downhill?

Or just stop spinning and freewheel downhill?
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Turning the pedals is doing only the internal work of moving your legs through the pedaling motion without doing external work. You also do this work when applying external work to the pedals. It will typically amount to 0.1 W/kg at 50 rpm, 0.3 W/kg at 70 rpm and 0.6 W/kg at 90rpm. (Multiply by your mass in kg)

So a low level of exertion and the chance to stretch.

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The hub body prawl friction of soft pedaling vs not pedaling is a consideration. Varies. Some worse or better than others
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Originally Posted by OldTryGuy View Post
"Coach Fred Matheny Replies: Soft pedaling means turning the crank without applying force. You're actually coasting but with the pedals still going around. ... "

Keeps muscles moving thus more blood flowing helping to minimize cramping
I was taught that this is the way to end a long hard ride.
By finishing the last mile "soft pedaling" helps flush out the lactic acid from your muscles. (Lactic acid is thought to be the cause of sore muscles.)

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TBH, I don't think it makes any significant difference if you're really going so fast that there is no resistance. I find I have to be going very fast indeed for there to be no resistance at all to a 53x11 combo. I generally pedal through downhills but if I'm really going fast enough to have no resistance, I'm really too focused on my handling to pay any attention to what my feet are doing. I'm also not going down any mountains, so the stretch that this is likely to be the case is only a matter of seconds anyway.

I tend to brake at 35 mph due to vision limitations that make me nervous about being able to detect road problems in time to avoid them, so it would make no sense to be braking and pedaling at the same time.
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I was taught that this is the was to end a long hard ride.
By finishing the last mile "soft pedaling" helps flush out the lactic acid from your muscles. (Lactic acid is thought to be the cause of sore muscles.)

At this point, the lactic acid explanation for muscle pain has been thoroughly disproven.
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I was taught that this is the way to end a long hard ride.
By finishing the last mile "soft pedaling" helps flush out the lactic acid from your muscles. (Lactic acid is thought to be the cause of sore muscles.)
The last 1 km of my ride back home is downhill and I can soft pedal all the way. Maybe not enough but better than nothing.
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TBH, I don't think it makes any significant difference if you're really going so fast that there is no resistance. I find I have to be going very fast indeed for there to be no resistance at all to a 53x11 combo. I generally pedal through downhills but if I'm really going fast enough to have no resistance, I'm really too focused on my handling to pay any attention to what my feet are doing. I'm also not going down any mountains, so the stretch that this is likely to be the case is only a matter of seconds anyway.

I tend to brake at 35 mph due to vision limitations that make me nervous about being able to detect road problems in time to avoid them, so it would make no sense to be braking and pedaling at the same time.
I'm not at the highest gear when soft pedal downhill. I'm at 50x24 gear so I'm still slow and safe!
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As someone previously stated, it keeps the annoying buzzy hubs quiet. Even better, it keeps the owners of said buzzy hubs from making stupid statements about why they like buzzy hubs.
What was that ? I can't hear you over my awesomely loud hub !!!
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What was that ? I can't hear you over my awesomely loud hub !!!
the default ringtone is "chris king" set on 100% volume.
It's the new buzz for tech tones.
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the default ringtone is "chris king" set on 100% volume.
It's the new buzz for tech tones.
My road bike has King hubs. They aren't nearly as loud as a lot of other hubs I have heard.
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I don't do a lot of soft-pedalling on downhills. More often, I'll just lift myself out of the saddle a bit and stretch my hamstrings/calves.
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I like to keep the pedals moving in a group ride or race so you can instantly apply pressure again. Keeps things much smoother. On a hill, I don't know if there's much benefit other than keeping your legs loose.
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