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Old 11-05-21, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Wrong, the only correct answer is the 5 speed IG hub. Myself and 99% of the cyclists on the planet are doing it wrong.
I thought IG got replaced by HyperGlide........My mistake, that was UG.
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It's worth noting that all bikes, including those with multi-speed freewheels, were "1x" before the invention of the front derailleur, and even that took some persuasion before it caught on. We didn't start with a "sensible" triple and then deviate from it.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
It's worth noting that all bikes, including those with freewheels, were "1x" before the invention of the front derailleur, and even that took some persuasion before it caught on. We didn't start with a "sensible" triple and then deviate from it.
I think that became 1X x 2X when they starting using the hub with a cog on both sides, correct? That was some wide spaced gearing options.
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
I think that became 1X x 2X when they starting using the hub with a cog on both sides, correct? That was some wide spaced gearing options.


That, and genuine multi-speed freewheels. People keep forgetting that there was a whole world outside of the Tour de France and whatever Campagnolo made.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post


That, and genuine multi-speed freewheels. People keep forgetting that there was a whole world outside of the Tour de France and whatever Campagnolo made.
Not to stray too far from the thread subject,(whatever the subject is) but I believe if not for the costly Delrin mistake, Simplex would still exist today alongside Stronglight and Mavic. Maybe, just maybe, even ahead of Campy. Their high end stuff was really good. Shifted/worked a lot better than Campy. Of course, you could say that about most any brand of deralleur BITD.
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
Not to stray too far from the thread subject,(whatever the subject is) but I believe if not for the costly Delrin mistake, Simplex would still exist today alongside Stronglight and Mavic. Maybe, just maybe, even ahead of Campy. Their high end stuff was really good. Shifted/worked a lot better than Campy. Of course, you could say that about most any brand of deralleur BITD.
The French and their love of plastic... one issue of BQ talks about Lefol trying to develop plastic rims in the late 1940's. They had the idea, just not the right materials (yet)!
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Old 11-05-21, 03:17 PM
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I already mentioned Rivendell. Surly also sells triples, with the Trucker and the Troll. Specialized has the Allez Triple and Trek sells the 520. Several aftermarket manufacturers sell nice cranksets, and sourcing a triple for a custom build has not been a problem for me. The triple crankset is alive and well.
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Old 11-05-21, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
whatever the subject is
The subject is that serial flying in the face does not make any sense.
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The subject is that serial flying in the face does not make any sense.
Cereal?
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Cereal?
No, serial. As in "repeated." The OP's rambling pontification was about one thing flying in the face of another thing that flies in the face of a third thing... etc. - none of which made any sense to them, so...
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@PaulRivers will go down in BF lore as the guy who hates pocket Ts ......
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir View Post
No, serial. As in "repeated." The OP's rambling pontification was about one thing flying in the face of another thing that flies in the face of a third thing... etc. - none of which made any sense to them, so...
Okay, got it. But, just to be clear, cereal flying in your face is not a good thing when cycling. (Unless, of course, you're a mountain biker and the cereal is Smurf Magic Berries.)
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^^ Guayabera guy .... the four-pocket trend, forced on us by fashion ......
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Okay, got it. But, just to be clear, cereal flying in your face is not a good thing when cycling. (Unless, of course, you're a mountain biker and the cereal is Smurf Magic Berries.)
Well, unfortunately, I haven't experienced what it's like to have cereal fly in my face because I haven't owned a mountain bike with a triple crankset since 1995. That was the year I "downgraded" to a double crankset on a road bike, and it was all downhill from there
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott View Post
It's worth noting that all bikes, including those with freewheels, were "1x" before the invention of the front derailleur, and even that took some persuasion before it caught on. We didn't start with a "sensible" triple and then deviate from it.
In the early days of cycling all bikes were fixed gear and single speed and people still managed to race, train, ride for recreation and fun, tour the world, bike pack, gravel ride, commute to their jobs....derailleurs complicated everything caused wars on internet forums and made everybody weaker....
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My eyes ... my eyes ... what is once seen cannot be unseen. AAaaaaaargh ....
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Lol, ok, name something 2x can do that 3x cannot.

With race rules adding minimum bike weights, there's literally no advantage to 2x, it's an amusing "red bikes are faster than black bikes" fashion driven debate.
With a double, you set two limit screws, make sure the cable isn't too loose, and all you need to do to shift is slam the lever from one extreme to the other. Sure, you could do the same with a triple, as long as you never want to use the middle ring.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs View Post
^^ Guayabera guy .... the four-pocket trend, forced on us by fashion ......
The 'Big Shirt' conspiracy? Manufacturers of men's linens gathering in a cabal, forcing us all to go 'four pockets'?? Location: Zurich?
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
I thought IG got replaced by HyperGlide........My mistake, that was UG.
UG, because that's the sound you make trying to unscrew that first cog.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Neese View Post
I already mentioned Rivendell. Surly also sells triples, with the Trucker and the Troll. Specialized has the Allez Triple and Trek sells the 520. Several aftermarket manufacturers sell nice cranksets, and sourcing a triple for a custom build has not been a problem for me. The triple crankset is alive and well.
Thank goodness for that!
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
It kinda boils down to the fact-------------change for the sake of change is no progress at all. It only appeals to those that want to have the "latest" in equipment.
Clever to introduce reverse snobbery into your pathetic (but strangely entertaining) thread.
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I suppose it's interesting how other people see the world in front of them. For you it seems to be all about fashion. I'm more into function. Over the years I've had bikes with 3x, 2x and 1x gearing and have experienced the pros and cons of them all. I don't think any of them are actually led by "fashion". I think it's more of an evolutionary process.
You got my opinion backward, it's using fashion argument to push 2x that I find annoying. They all perform the function.
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You got my opinion backward, it's using fashion argument to push 2x that I find annoying. They all perform the function.

You've lost me here on your fashion argument ???

Yes they all perform the function of gearing, but in slightly different ways. They are not all the same, at least not in my personal experience of all 3 options. There's a good reason why some forms of cycling favour one option over the others and it has nothing to do with fashion.
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There’s no reason to go all rational on us.
Fair enough. Actually, I know it’s wrong… I just ride single speed to be naughty.

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