It just doesnt make any sense
11-05-21, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Wrong, the only correct answer is the 5 speed IG hub. Myself and 99% of the cyclists on the planet are doing it wrong.
11-05-21, 02:27 PM
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It's worth noting that all bikes, including those with multi-speed freewheels, were "1x" before the invention of the front derailleur, and even that took some persuasion before it caught on. We didn't start with a "sensible" triple and then deviate from it. 
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There's no such thing as too far.. just lack of time
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
It's worth noting that all bikes, including those with freewheels, were "1x" before the invention of the front derailleur, and even that took some persuasion before it caught on. We didn't start with a "sensible" triple and then deviate from it.
11-05-21, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat
I think that became 1X x 2X when they starting using the hub with a cog on both sides, correct? That was some wide spaced gearing options.
That, and genuine multi-speed freewheels. People keep forgetting that there was a whole world outside of the Tour de France and whatever Campagnolo made.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
That, and genuine multi-speed freewheels. People keep forgetting that there was a whole world outside of the Tour de France and whatever Campagnolo made.
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Originally Posted by seypat
Not to stray too far from the thread subject,(whatever the subject is) but I believe if not for the costly Delrin mistake, Simplex would still exist today alongside Stronglight and Mavic. Maybe, just maybe, even ahead of Campy. Their high end stuff was really good. Shifted/worked a lot better than Campy. Of course, you could say that about most any brand of deralleur BITD.
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I already mentioned Rivendell. Surly also sells triples, with the Trucker and the Troll. Specialized has the Allez Triple and Trek sells the 520. Several aftermarket manufacturers sell nice cranksets, and sourcing a triple for a custom build has not been a problem for me. The triple crankset is alive and well.
11-05-21, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat
whatever the subject is
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir
The subject is that serial flying in the face does not make any sense.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Cereal?
11-05-21, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
@PaulRivers will go down in BF lore as the guy who hates pocket Ts ......
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir
No, serial. As in "repeated." The OP's rambling pontification was about one thing flying in the face of another thing that flies in the face of a third thing... etc. - none of which made any sense to them, so...
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^^ Guayabera guy .... the four-pocket trend, forced on us by fashion ......
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Okay, got it. But, just to be clear, cereal flying in your face is not a good thing when cycling. (Unless, of course, you're a mountain biker and the cereal is Smurf Magic Berries.)
11-05-21, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
It's worth noting that all bikes, including those with freewheels, were "1x" before the invention of the front derailleur, and even that took some persuasion before it caught on. We didn't start with a "sensible" triple and then deviate from it.
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Originally Posted by PaulRivers
11-05-21, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by PaulRivers
Lol, ok, name something 2x can do that 3x cannot.
With race rules adding minimum bike weights, there's literally no advantage to 2x, it's an amusing "red bikes are faster than black bikes" fashion driven debate.
With race rules adding minimum bike weights, there's literally no advantage to 2x, it's an amusing "red bikes are faster than black bikes" fashion driven debate.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
^^ Guayabera guy .... the four-pocket trend, forced on us by fashion ......
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Originally Posted by seypat
I thought IG got replaced by HyperGlide........My mistake, that was UG.
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Originally Posted by Jeff Neese
I already mentioned Rivendell. Surly also sells triples, with the Trucker and the Troll. Specialized has the Allez Triple and Trek sells the 520. Several aftermarket manufacturers sell nice cranksets, and sourcing a triple for a custom build has not been a problem for me. The triple crankset is alive and well.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
It kinda boils down to the fact-------------change for the sake of change is no progress at all. It only appeals to those that want to have the "latest" in equipment.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
I suppose it's interesting how other people see the world in front of them. For you it seems to be all about fashion. I'm more into function. Over the years I've had bikes with 3x, 2x and 1x gearing and have experienced the pros and cons of them all. I don't think any of them are actually led by "fashion". I think it's more of an evolutionary process.
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Originally Posted by PaulRivers
You got my opinion backward, it's using fashion argument to push 2x that I find annoying. They all perform the function.
You've lost me here on your fashion argument ???
Yes they all perform the function of gearing, but in slightly different ways. They are not all the same, at least not in my personal experience of all 3 options. There's a good reason why some forms of cycling favour one option over the others and it has nothing to do with fashion.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
There’s no reason to go all rational on us.
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