It just doesnt make any sense
10-29-21, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Whose were they?
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10-29-21, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
They belonged to a couple of mountain bikers that needed a cash advance to buy some weed. They couldn't pay me back and didn't want to sell their bikes, so they gave me some organs instead. You know, typical scenario.
Now, I’ve noticed a tendency for this forum to get rather silly…
10-29-21, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ofajen
Now, I’ve noticed a tendency for this forum to get rather silly…
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10-29-21, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
They are just gears on a bicycle, not some f****** religion!
10-29-21, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Reading bikeforums threads, I've counted at least 150 different " cycling denominations " and each of them claiming that their approach to cycling is an absolute.
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Originally Posted by ofajen
Now, I’ve noticed a tendency for this forum to get rather silly…
Sincerely,
Beryl Smethwick-Jones (Mrs.), Colonel (ret.), Royal Logistics Corps
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Reading bikeforums threads, I've counted at least 150 different " cycling denominations " and each of them claiming that their approach to cycling is an absolute.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Reading bikeforums threads, I've counted at least 150 different " cycling denominations " and each of them claiming that their approach to cycling is an absolute.
10-30-21, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Reading bikeforums threads, I've counted at least 150 different " cycling denominations " and each of them claiming that their approach to cycling is an absolute.
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10-31-21, 06:11 AM
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Why do I think "It just doesn't make any sense" sounds like a good title for a BF theme song?
Maybe a new page? .... sort of "foo-boost." We could move certain posts there based on the poster, without even having to read them .....
Maybe a new page? .... sort of "foo-boost." We could move certain posts there based on the poster, without even having to read them .....
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Originally Posted by rydabent
After pondering other threads on gearing, it just doesnt make any sense to get rid of the front triple. A bike report I read had a bike with a 34 front and 12 gears in the cluster. The reason it doesnt make sense is:
1) The are only 12 speeds, which flies in the face of those that demand ever more gears.
2) The rear cluster goes from 12 to 51, which flies in the face of those that want small steps between each gear change.
3) The 51 tooth low gear flies in the face of the weigh weenies because that 51 tooth gear has to weigh much more than twice as much as a 26 tooth granny gear.
So my question is why get rid of the triple?
1) The are only 12 speeds, which flies in the face of those that demand ever more gears.
2) The rear cluster goes from 12 to 51, which flies in the face of those that want small steps between each gear change.
3) The 51 tooth low gear flies in the face of the weigh weenies because that 51 tooth gear has to weigh much more than twice as much as a 26 tooth granny gear.
So my question is why get rid of the triple?
10-31-21, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by vespasianus
Are you talking about a MTB? If so, there is a great reason to get ride of the triple and double.
10-31-21, 09:06 AM
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In my opinion it's marketing hype to sell something "better", well, really just different to increase sales. It's the same in almost every sport industry. Heck, there's no way you'll be able to catch a Bass next year unless you buy the pioneering and next revolution in Bass lures, the Hogwasher!!
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Only if you only ride DOWN the mountain.
10-31-21, 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Only if you only ride DOWN the mountain.
Anyone with a lot of off-road miles understand 1x. Either you lack the experience and choose not to extrapolate from your road riding, or you have the experience and are just being a donkey.
10-31-21, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Only if you only ride DOWN the mountain.
10-31-21, 03:49 PM
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I do agree that a 10-50 12 speed cassette on a mountain bike can give you all the climbing you need, even if you have to go with a .6:1 low ratio by running a 30t chainring. In my experience needing anything much below that will be tough to keep the bike in an upright position.
Even in a road situation running a traditional 80’s triple with a 50-40-30 and a 13-34 freewheel, you are better off on both ends with a 40t chainring and a 10-50 cassette.
The 40t chainring with a 50t cog is still better for climbing than a modern road setup with a 30t granny and a 36t cog.
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Even in a road situation running a traditional 80’s triple with a 50-40-30 and a 13-34 freewheel, you are better off on both ends with a 40t chainring and a 10-50 cassette.
The 40t chainring with a 50t cog is still better for climbing than a modern road setup with a 30t granny and a 36t cog.
John
10-31-21, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Only if you only ride DOWN the mountain.
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/cr...mountain-bikes
What do you notice about the gearing on all of them?
10-31-21, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Have a look at these "modern" XC mtbs:-
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/cr...mountain-bikes
What do you notice about the gearing on all of them?
https://www.specialized.com/us/en/cr...mountain-bikes
What do you notice about the gearing on all of them?
Your rugby shorts would hang up on the saddle, and where would you put the flag?
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Reading bikeforums threads, I've counted at least 150 different " cycling denominations " and each of them claiming that their approach to cycling is an absolute.
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11-01-21, 04:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO
I do agree that a 10-50 12 speed cassette on a mountain bike can give you all the climbing you need, even if you have to go with a .6:1 low ratio by running a 30t chainring. In my experience needing anything much below that will be tough to keep the bike in an upright position.
Even in a road situation running a traditional 80’s triple with a 50-40-30 and a 13-34 freewheel, you are better off on both ends with a 40t chainring and a 10-50 cassette.
The 40t chainring with a 50t cog is still better for climbing than a modern road setup with a 30t granny and a 36t cog.
John
Even in a road situation running a traditional 80’s triple with a 50-40-30 and a 13-34 freewheel, you are better off on both ends with a 40t chainring and a 10-50 cassette.
The 40t chainring with a 50t cog is still better for climbing than a modern road setup with a 30t granny and a 36t cog.
John
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11-01-21, 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
So my question is why get rid of the triple?
11-01-21, 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Because your preferences are not universal.
11-01-21, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Neither are his preferences unique. I acquired a mid-1990s 3X7 Cannondale hybrid last year for utility use that has a half-step-plus-granny triple that has unexpectedly turned out to be my favorite gearing arrangement among my current bikes. Shifting between the two larger chainrings gives a satisfyingly minimal change reminiscent of my straight-block racing days, and while I've used the inner ring only two or three times, to confirm that the front derailleur is correctly set, it's available should I need it.
