Sram Rival VS. Shimano 105 Road Cranks
12-09-21, 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Branko D
No such thing as "shifting to the big ring too often"?
12-09-21, 05:24 AM
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Originally Posted by SapInMyBlood
I've always lived near mountains. If you're climbing, use the small ring.
If you're not climbing, use the big ring.
??? Pretty straightforward. A 50-34 has been solid for me for years of road riding
If you're not climbing, use the big ring.
??? Pretty straightforward. A 50-34 has been solid for me for years of road riding
By the way, some people do spend time in the big ring when climbing
12-09-21, 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Okay. Great I guess. You ride the way you want and I will as well.
By the way, some people do spend time in the big ring when climbing
By the way, some people do spend time in the big ring when climbing
12-09-21, 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
You post that as a fact and act as if you have more experience in the matter. It's your opinion. The funny thing about humans is that opinions vary and mine is totally different from yours.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, of course... even a factually wrong one.
12-09-21, 07:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Lazyass
Okay. Great I guess. You ride the way you want and I will as well.
By the way, some people do spend time in the big ring when climbing
By the way, some people do spend time in the big ring when climbing
For the record, I run triples on all my bikes and have trouble sometimes climbing on the granny.
12-09-21, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Branko D
Yes, because there is no objective reason to shy from riding in the big ring; rather, it is objectively more efficient to ride in the big ring up until the point where the chain is significantly skewed.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, of course... even a factually wrong one.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, of course... even a factually wrong one.
There's no "objective" reason to ride on either ring. This is entirely about how it feels and performs for you. Some people do better on the small chain ring than I do, I'm at my best on the big chain ring. There's no real point in arguing it.
Also, if someone says that a setup will make them shift "too much", we know that's per personal preference. That you don't have that preference is not a point worth making.
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12-09-21, 07:17 AM
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Y'all got so caught up in matters of pure opinion, you missed the most hilarious post of the thread.
Moisture, after dozens of posts in several threads telling us everything we need to know about gearing .... bought the wrong part.
Moisture, after dozens of posts in several threads telling us everything we need to know about gearing .... bought the wrong part.
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12-09-21, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Moisture, after dozens of posts in several threads telling us everything we need to know about gearing .... bought the wrong part.
12-09-21, 07:43 AM
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This’ll break a few minds. My brand new road crank is 94BCD with 36/44 rings
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Y'all got so caught up in matters of pure opinion, you missed the most hilarious post of the thread.
Moisture, after dozens of posts in several threads telling us everything we need to know about gearing .... bought the wrong part.
Moisture, after dozens of posts in several threads telling us everything we need to know about gearing .... bought the wrong part.
By now, I think we all price that into the thread and pretty much anything he posts.. It's like a sitcom formula ending, no surprise, no laugh. This is a guy who said that a bike fit perfectly AND that he had to take a break from it every 30 minutes because his back hurt too much. Really hard to keep topping that. He's like an episode of "Home Improvement" in its 57th season.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
This is a guy who said that a bike fit perfectly AND that he had to take a break from it every 30 minutes because his back hurt too much. Really hard to keep topping that.
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12-09-21, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
Not sure why I thought my KHS uses a BB30.
I'm returning the Sram crank and getting 180mm arms 36/48
I'm returning the Sram crank and getting 180mm arms 36/48
12-09-21, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
What crankset will you pick up?
12-09-21, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Anybody else, that would be the funniest thing.
By now, I think we all price that into the thread and pretty much anything he posts.. It's like a sitcom formula ending, no surprise, no laugh. This is a guy who said that a bike fit perfectly AND that he had to take a break from it every 30 minutes because his back hurt too much. Really hard to keep topping that. He's like an episode of "Home Improvement" in its 57th season.
By now, I think we all price that into the thread and pretty much anything he posts.. It's like a sitcom formula ending, no surprise, no laugh. This is a guy who said that a bike fit perfectly AND that he had to take a break from it every 30 minutes because his back hurt too much. Really hard to keep topping that. He's like an episode of "Home Improvement" in its 57th season.
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12-09-21, 03:57 PM
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An uncomfortable thought is that this may not be trolling....
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I vacillate on this but I suspect our friend may be on the autism spectrum.
12-15-21, 02:48 PM
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^^^That could be an explanation.
12-15-21, 02:51 PM
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No way I'm gonna be cruising the flats with a 50 or 52t.
34 is useful for climbing if paired with something less than 50t. I've had the same experience using 34/50 where 34 was too little and 50t was too much. However my newest road bike felt a lot more efficient with even a 53t cog on relatively slow cadences so this changed my perception of gearing.
Maybe in that case a triple would work best. Or simple 1x.
36/46 gives you fast shifts as mentioned and useful ratios for most riders under most conditions.
34 is useful for climbing if paired with something less than 50t. I've had the same experience using 34/50 where 34 was too little and 50t was too much. However my newest road bike felt a lot more efficient with even a 53t cog on relatively slow cadences so this changed my perception of gearing.
Maybe in that case a triple would work best. Or simple 1x.
36/46 gives you fast shifts as mentioned and useful ratios for most riders under most conditions.
12-15-21, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
No way I'm gonna be cruising the flats with a 50 or 52t.
34 is useful for climbing if paired with something less than 50t. I've had the same experience using 34/50 where 34 was too little and 50t was too much. However my newest road bike felt a lot more efficient with even a 53t cog on relatively slow cadences so this changed my perception of gearing.
Maybe in that case a triple would work best. Or simple 1x.
36/46 gives you fast shifts as mentioned and useful ratios for most riders under most conditions.
34 is useful for climbing if paired with something less than 50t. I've had the same experience using 34/50 where 34 was too little and 50t was too much. However my newest road bike felt a lot more efficient with even a 53t cog on relatively slow cadences so this changed my perception of gearing.
Maybe in that case a triple would work best. Or simple 1x.
36/46 gives you fast shifts as mentioned and useful ratios for most riders under most conditions.
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12-15-21, 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
36/46 gives you fast shifts as mentioned and useful ratios for most riders under most conditions.
Currently Ultegra only, no 105 or DA....
12-15-21, 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
That's why it's so popular? Currently Ultegra only, no 105 or DA....
Currently Ultegra only, no 105 or DA....
12-15-21, 10:20 PM
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Unfortunately I didn't get to try the rival crankset on my road bike. Shame because I've deduced that 37/47 would be perfect for me and this is the closest I've managed to get to that.
I was about to buy a set of 36/48 with 180mm arms, but I found a deal on an Opus Horizon AL Apex 1 in my size that was too good to pass up with the 650b wheels. It has an... Apex groupset.
The Apex crankset is the stiffest and best feeling crankset I've used. I have tried many different cranksets in different sizes with different ring combos.
With a 40t 1x, going down the steepest hill I can find here, I couldn't spin out in 40x11 even at more than 50km/h.
I was about to buy a set of 36/48 with 180mm arms, but I found a deal on an Opus Horizon AL Apex 1 in my size that was too good to pass up with the 650b wheels. It has an... Apex groupset.
The Apex crankset is the stiffest and best feeling crankset I've used. I have tried many different cranksets in different sizes with different ring combos.
With a 40t 1x, going down the steepest hill I can find here, I couldn't spin out in 40x11 even at more than 50km/h.
12-16-21, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Moisture
I found a deal on an Opus Horizon AL Apex 1 in my size that was too good to pass up with the 650b wheels. It has an... Apex groupset..
12-16-21, 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Nice bike, I think a 1X is a good choice for you.
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