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Old 01-31-22, 08:26 PM
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Lightly swept handlebars?

I've realized that I hate straight bars. Maybe for really technical MTB they have a place, but for casual around town riding, their unnatural angle just makes my hands hurt.

Casual bikes used to have quite swept bars, I see some cheap things in that realm still available from sunlite, wald etc. Any favorites?

Ultimately going to something like a Surly Moloko or Corner Bar seems like a possibility, but I'm still at the more "experimental" stage in fixing up craigslist finds.

Finally tossed some bar ends on this evening for at least one alternative relief position but will have to wait until it's light and warm again to try them; that idea makes me wonder if I only want something with a fairly light 20-30 degree sweep vs a 45?

I guess for the moment I'm confined to things that have a 25.4 mounting diameter and take 22.2 levers and shifters, though it won't take much excuse to toss the twist grips in favor of friction thumbs.
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I really like my 34˚ stuff so Koga Denham and Surly Moloko which I ride regularly (I was just on my Molokos today). I have tried the old VO Crazy Bars and the sweep was similar the new one is 1 degree more so should be fine and the new added rise could be nice as well but the new version I haven't yet put hands on. I would not hesitate to pick one of those three bars up rather than experimenting around. They are fan-freakin-tastic. Get some Ergon GC1s (Biokork ideally) and you will be in comfort land. I added some ESI grips to my Denham extensions and I think that is right on but I would love to see something more ergonomic but I don't know of anything for that position that would really work. My only wish was that Denham's were more accessible in the U.S. and maybe a titanium version but I want titanium everything. I really do love those bars a lot and would happily put them on other bikes.

Jones and other more swept back bars were not good for me too much sweep another odd angle that I don't think Ergon GC1s could cure. Some people like that position or at least don't know the comfortable middle spot but not for me. Old Cubie probably hasn't tried Jones Bars and looking at their purchase histories they have mentioned it doesn't bode well for an actual Jones Bar anyway.
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Salsa Bend Deluxe. Comes in 17* and 23* flavors and 710 or 740 lengths. Check out WhatBars.com and you can sort by sweep. The Salsa bars are only available in a 31.8 clamp size so unless you can swap out your stem I’m not much help.

Edited to add: The Salsa bars are aka “Salsa Bend 2.”
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a MEGA +1 for Whatbars.com, such a great site!
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Both my bikes have standard looking touring bars, the Sunlite Elson Roadster, to be exact. It’s an inexpensive steel bar. Looks about like the Nitto Albatross. I’ve basically put the last 7,000 miles or so on these bars over the last year and a half. Really suited to the way I like to ride, which is mostly on easy trails.

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Originally Posted by ofajen View Post
Both my bikes have standard looking touring bars, the Sunlite Elson Roadster, to be exact. It’s an inexpensive steel bar
Hmm, price is right, but kind of seems like more sweep than I want, almost as if they hand grips have turned the corner almost completely to parallel again.
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Old 01-31-22, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
I really like my 34˚ stuff so Koga Denham and Surly Moloko which I ride regularly (I was just on my Molokos today). I have tried the old VO Crazy Bars and the sweep was similar the new one is 1 degree more so should be fine and the new added rise could be nice as well but the new version I haven't yet put hands on.
Thanks going to have to think on these more. Those 30-something degree angles are what I think I want, though thoughts and reality can be distinct...

I would not hesitate to pick one of those three bars up rather than experimenting around.
Kind of every bike I have right now is an experiment. There's the more or less everyday utility one that I don't love the hand position of, but can tolerate. Just took out a project of a beater MTB resurrection yesterday and today in the snow and its even straighter bars were really aggravating me - though unless we get a serious melt-off if I do a mid-week grocery run it might be the knobby tires of that in the remaining snow of the trail trail. And the potential rigid fork 90's MTB for gravel conversion I was eyeing just sold out from under my nose between my first and follow-up inquiries.

To put it another way, I don't have a "main" bike at the moment, just assorted projects / experiments none of which are worth even as much as the relatively reasonable price of one of these bars.

So yeah, I could put a $100 bar on a $50 bike and later move it to a nice one, but I'm sort of curious what low end solutions I can find to try angles, maybe play with the bar ends some, and figure out what's going to work for me personally. I'm also not sure I can get some of these branching/re-entrant designs into some of my stems that don't have fully separable bar clamps, which reinforces the near term interest in a moderately swept plain bar, though sure, stems can be replaced, too.

Ultimately where I feel I'd buy one of the nicer bars would be at the point where I'd settled on turning one of these grocery-getter experiments or its successor into something for 50-100 mile rides as the days get longer and warmer.

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I'd get a 31.8mm stem so you can open up your options: SQLabs makes a nice bar that comes in three different rises and either 12 or 16° of sweep, the Ritchey Kyote has 27.5°, and the Soma Dream has 50mm of rise and 20° of sweep. I've owned all three, and they each have their charms.

Also, check the Velo Orange site. They have an interesting assortment, some with 25.4mm clamp size.

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These meet your specs--many others listed on amazon under "moustache handlebars" or "dutch handlebars: Amazon.com : CATAZER Bike Handlebars Road Bike Handlebars Cruiser Bike Handlebars Extra Wide Dutch M Shape 25.4x540/600mm (A-25.4X600MM) : Sports & Outdoors
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Originally Posted by UniChris View Post
Thanks going to have to think on these more. Those 30-something degree angles are what I think I want, though thoughts and reality can be distinct...



Kind of every bike I have right now is an experiment. There's the more or less everyday utility one that I don't love the hand position of, but can tolerate. Just took out a project of a beater MTB resurrection yesterday and today in the snow and its even straighter bars were really aggravating me - though unless we get a serious melt-off if I do a mid-week grocery run it might be the knobby tires of that in the remaining snow of the trail trail. And the potential rigid fork 90's MTB for gravel conversion I was eyeing just sold out from under my nose between my first and follow-up inquiries.

To put it another way, I don't have a "main" bike at the moment, just assorted projects / experiments none of which are worth even as much as the relatively reasonable price of one of these bars.

So yeah, I could put a $100 bar on a $50 bike and later move it to a nice one, but I'm sort of curious what low end solutions I can find to try angles, maybe play with the bar ends some, and figure out what's going to work for me personally. I'm also not sure I can get some of these branching/re-entrant designs into some of my stems that don't have fully separable bar clamps, which reinforces the near term interest in a moderately swept plain bar, though sure, stems can be replaced, too.

Ultimately where I feel I'd buy one of the nicer bars would be at the point where I'd settled on turning one of these grocery-getter experiments or its successor into something for 50-100 mile rides as the days get longer and warmer.
You should I think you will really like them. You can experiment forever but make a decision go for the gold (or in this case aluminum).
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You should I think you will really like them. You can experiment forever but make a decision go for the gold (or in this case aluminum).
At the moment it's the one thing leads to another aspect - ie, buy the fancy bars, also need to get a new quill stem sort of solution that can hold them.

The way I see it something like the moloko bar is a combination of a basic low end swept bar and some other things, and at the moment I'm interested in starting with the swept bar to put on some utility bikes in order to see if I like that hand position, before getting into the other options (and related expenses) that the premium solution offers.

The hypothetical end state is that the simple version stays on the knock around utility bike and the fancier version gets bought for a future distance / gravel one.

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At the moment it's the one thing leads to another aspect - ie, buy the fancy bars, also need to get a new quill stem sort of solution that can hold them.

The way I see it something like the moloko bar is a combination of a basic low end swept bar and some other things, and at the moment I'm interested in starting with the swept bar to put on some utility bikes in order to see if I like that hand position, before getting into the other options (and related expenses) that the premium solution offers.

The hypothetical end state is that the simple version stays on the knock around utility bike and the fancier version gets bought for a future distance / gravel one.
Yeah a quill stem will make those bars tough and by tough I mean impossible unless it has a removable faceplate. Factory Five makes the Titan Stem which looks really nice and accommodates modern 31.8 bars.
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Hmm, price is right, but kind of seems like more sweep than I want, almost as if they hand grips have turned the corner almost completely to parallel again.
Sweep is at least 70 degrees. I find that is pretty good. I ride single speed and really like the grip position for steep out of the saddle climbs. The rest of the bar is taped and I use the forward sections both seated and standing. Probably worth a try at this price. I bought them as a “proof of concept” before spending big bucks on the Albatross, but then decided they were just fine.

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Between my 16 and 45 degree back sweep handlebars, i like the first one better. 45 degrees is too much for me and i struggle with them on the uphills. I would like to try handlebars with 20-30 degree sweep when i get a chance.
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Originally Posted by ofajen View Post
Both my bikes have standard looking touring bars, the Sunlite Elson Roadster, to be exact. It’s an inexpensive steel bar. Looks about like the Nitto Albatross. I’ve basically put the last 7,000 miles or so on these bars over the last year and a half. Really suited to the way I like to ride, which is mostly on easy trails.

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I'm looking at these Sunlite handlebars. With the dramatic sweep does this make steering more sensitive? I'm looking to primarily be riding my electric bike around the city and want to be in an upright position where I have a better view of traffic.

Also, for those looking at comparing different handlebars check out the whatbars website below. It compares sweep/rise/drop/etc between many of the common bars sold online. You overlay them to see how they compare with one another. It's a really nice visual comparison.
https://whatbars.com/ Thanks veganbikes for showing me that!

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I'm looking at these Sunlite handlebars. With the dramatic sweep does this make steering more sensitive? I'm looking to primarily be riding my electric bike around the city and want to be in an upright position where I have a better view of traffic.
The bars come back enough that even with a long stem the grip position will be back around the position of the steering axis. So your steering input forces are going to be perpendicular to the path to the steering axis.

However, in that more upright position, there won’t be much weight on the bars, so control is still good. I wrap the forward bends and also ride there a lot, and that feels more like riding on the hoods on drop bars (more weight but the angle to the steerer makes it more stable).

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