Don't run the build costs
02-11-22, 04:44 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
People who have cheaper bikes are riding and using them hard...meanwhile people with $ 10 0000 bikes are boasting and having a pissing contest on internet forums about who blows more money on their bikes and parts.
There’s more than enough wet blankets out there. No need to pile on another one.
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02-11-22, 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Re: insurance, if you've got replacement value, why do you need receipts? A few good pictures, print out web pages showing current cost, and that should be more relevant that what you paid for a dyno hub, Brooks saddle, or fancy brake 5-10 years ago.
02-12-22, 06:39 AM
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Last year I had three bikes given to me. That keeps the build costs down. One was dropped off on my front porch and I still dont know who left it there.
This one I rode quite a bit. Gitane orange, about the greatest color ever.
This one I rode quite a bit. Gitane orange, about the greatest color ever.
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02-12-22, 07:16 AM
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If you can find a complete bike with what you want, it’s a lot cheaper. The upgrades really pump the cost up.
The last complete new bike I got was a ProFlex 855 in 1996. I probably spent 2x it’s cost in the following year to get it how I wanted (lipstick on a pig).
I am awaiting shipment on a complete bike now, we’ll see if I can manage to keep from nickel and dime-ing myself to death on it.
The last complete new bike I got was a ProFlex 855 in 1996. I probably spent 2x it’s cost in the following year to get it how I wanted (lipstick on a pig).
I am awaiting shipment on a complete bike now, we’ll see if I can manage to keep from nickel and dime-ing myself to death on it.
02-12-22, 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
If you can find a complete bike with what you want, it’s a lot cheaper. The upgrades really pump the cost up.
The last complete new bike I got was a ProFlex 855 in 1996. I probably spent 2x it’s cost in the following year to get it how I wanted (lipstick on a pig).
I am awaiting shipment on a complete bike now, we’ll see if I can manage to keep from nickel and dime-ing myself to death on it.
The last complete new bike I got was a ProFlex 855 in 1996. I probably spent 2x it’s cost in the following year to get it how I wanted (lipstick on a pig).
I am awaiting shipment on a complete bike now, we’ll see if I can manage to keep from nickel and dime-ing myself to death on it.
02-12-22, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
‘Cause people aren’t always honest. Receipts (and pictures) just make the process go faster.
Originally Posted by Koyote
You need receipts to prove that you owned something. Insurance fraud is a thing.
02-12-22, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rosefarts
I am awaiting shipment on a complete bike now, we’ll see if I can manage to keep from nickel and dime-ing myself to death on it.
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02-12-22, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
A co-worker's house was badly damaged in a storm 10 years back, and his insurance company paid for replacement books (expensive technical tomes) based on pictures he had of his bookcases showing the titles and amazon web page printouts. I'm not sure why an insurance company would have a higher standard for expensive bike parts.
02-12-22, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
Ignorance is bliss
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02-12-22, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
You haven’t been trying hard enough!
By the time this (1998)
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickr
had become this (because of a broken frame, 2003)
93590004 by Stuart Black, on Flickr
The only original part was the front hub. By the time the above had become this (around 2014)
even the wheel from the original Stumpjumper was gone, as were most of the parts that had been replaced on the second Stumpjumper.
Then the Rockhopper became this (2017)
And even that didn’t stay that way for long.
Even now, the Dean is changed somewhat from the above picture.
By the time this (1998)
Untitled by Stuart Black, on Flickrhad become this (because of a broken frame, 2003)
93590004 by Stuart Black, on FlickrThe only original part was the front hub. By the time the above had become this (around 2014)
even the wheel from the original Stumpjumper was gone, as were most of the parts that had been replaced on the second Stumpjumper.
Then the Rockhopper became this (2017)
And even that didn’t stay that way for long.
Even now, the Dean is changed somewhat from the above picture.
02-12-22, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
I bought frames and built them vs buying complete
02-13-22, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ryan_M
I'm curious how you made out financially doing that. I did that on my last two bikes and I saved a lot (like a lot a lot) building from scratch, Just wondering if you made out the same...
02-13-22, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Germany_chris
I spent more than I had to on some stuff and less on others but in the end all three bikes are exactly what I want.
I also spent a couple hundred to experiment with different handlebars and stems over the last two years, and it’s been well worth the trouble and expense.
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02-13-22, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan_M
I'm curious how you made out financially doing that. I did that on my last two bikes and I saved a lot (like a lot a lot) building from scratch, Just wondering if you made out the same...
For a US brazed Vari-Wall THRMLX steel tubed frame with carbon fork. Rival AXS shifters, der and brakes, Deda Zero100 cockpit, hope hubs with Velocity Aileron rims built with bladed spokes, and challenge elite tires, and redline proline cranks. Total off all receipts is roughly 2600.00. Personally I think the pricing is absurd for a mid-level price point but you won't find an AXS equipped bike for under 4000.00. The few I've seen at the local shops have cheaper, heavy oem cockpits. The Deda seatpost is as light as a cheap carbon post, the stem and handlebars are a weight savings. Whatever bike I buy complete will come with the wrong size cranks and handlebars for an 11-12yo girl, I won't have that problem.
Sram and shimano, along with the bike companies don't give a crap about juniors and the fact that they are restricted in what they can actually use. The redline cranks have a much better q-factor, at 150mm are a better length and will let me use a 41t chainring, 41/11 sitting right on the line of what a jr. can race on. tires are the same quality I use so nothing cheap there either. Even if the 4000.00 bike came with carbon rims, there's restrictions on those as well for some of the races while the Aileron with 24 bladed spokes will be every bit as light and fairly aero. The result will be a bike with no need for any upgrades as everything is built with the specific rider in mind and no need to swap anything out to make it compatible.
