indyfabz

*smh*

soyabean

Agreed.

I see all sorts of clueless folks out there with obviously wrong sized bikes, wrong adjustments on saddles/bars, tires with about 10 psi in them, I'm not going to go Karen on them, my riding time is too valuable.

If you don't hear the sound of dragging brakes, then the problem doesn't exist.

Kapusta

There saddles are just fine. It is their legs that are too short.

mprince

Then post a picture of your position, let's see how many people find that "interesting"...otherwise your thread comes off as all-knowing and judgmental.

genejockey 

I do see that fairly often - hips rocking like mad when pedaling. Probably wonder why their lower back hurts and they get chafing in their sensitive bits. But that's their problem, not mine.

genejockey 

I have long legs AND I point my toes a bit when pedaling, so my saddles are pretty high. But I also have long arms, so my bars are fairly low, between 3 and 4.5" lower than the saddle, mostly around 3.5"

I think that, despite the 'intuitive' idea that higher bars = more comfort, it's more a question of having the correct drop for you. When I got my Canyon, I set it up as it came from the factory, with all the spacers under the stem. On the first ride, my hands kept going numb. I moved 2.5cm of spacers from below to above, and no more numb hands. That put it into the sweet spot FOR ME, right around 3.5".

qwaalodge

Because their bad setup bike can give them poor visibility and distract them so badly. They can bounce off any object they collide with and their unconscious body fall on you at any time so it's only RIGHT to be concerned.

You probably heard about Egan Bernal hitting the back of a bus during training on public roads. The cause of the accident, Bernal did not see the stopped big RED bus right in front of him.

Bernal was riding his TT bike at that time where the position gives you poor forward visibility. You can EASILY have the same torso position on a road bike with a slammed down handlebar.

The position may be fast but not safe for public roads. Even Pros training in teams in low traffic are not spared of this danger. Even UCI is considering banning TT bikes and some Pros are becoming concerned of the slammed down position even on road bikes in terms of training/racing safety.

Vintage Schwinn

https://www.trailheadinc.net/about/b...ting-pg246.htm

https://bikeretrogrouch.blogspot.com...positions.html

soyabean

And how would you go about advocating this?

Walk up to strangers and Karen them? Sounds like a great idea that will never make trouble.

Educate the police so they can use their authority to do it instead? Because we definitely want to keep the police busy from other more important things like bike theft, or women who call the cops against strangers stalking them about saddle height.

Make it the job of the LBS to catch clients when they get their bike serviced? Surely that will never offend the bike owner.

Maybe get cycling clubs to spread the gospel? Because every commuter and cyclist we find on roads surely belong to one.

We already have a challenge to get folks to wear helmets. So preaching to folks about saddle height is surely easier.

eaglesandcycling

hmm. that's the way YOU take it

Jax Rhapsody

It's also done by most people out of aestetics, and to make a bike that's probably not their right size, fit. My bikes with the lowest saddle hieghts are the ones that fit me best, and the stems aren't slammed either. My Schwinn Prelude, and Nishiki Olympic.

eaglesandcycling

Schwinn still exists???

Jax Rhapsody

Yes, but mine is an '86, or it might be an '83, I forget.

eaglesandcycling

nice! show us a pic!

seypat

It's a conspiracy from Big Bike to sell dropper posts for road bikes. That's why the super tuck was banned.

qwaalodge

The best option is getting this to UCI. Some of the tour pros are already sharing their concern to UCI on the aggressive position. They also suspect, it can worsen accident injuries.

They may get a bit slower but still doesn't take away the competition aspect. The fastest guy still wins.

burnthesheep

Wow there's a lot of stupid and lot of trolls in this topic. Also a lot of insecure compensation going on. People have different length legs, torsos, and arms. People ride bikes at different ages and abilities to have flexibility on the bike. And folks who are between frame sizes and went with the smaller frame. Geeeeezzz.

What about the opposite? Folks with so much stack, such wide bars that never use the drops that may as well just move over to a hybrid bar setup. And such low saddles they appear to have bought a bike 3 sizes too large? Never mind their saddle nose poking up some 30 odd degrees the wrong direction and the handlebars rotated to shift the hoods up and rearwards a solid 45 degrees.

You can find a way to pick on anything about how a bike is setup or used.

tomato coupe

So little time, so many bike setups to criticize ... and gearing choices ... and frame material ... and tire widths ... and brake types ...

But, seriously, have you noticed the socks some people are wearing?

eaglesandcycling

i've found, after years of riding, that cycling (especially the road bike world) can be very elitist which is one thing that kinda turns me off about the sport..but i love being on my bike so much, so F it

tomato coupe

Are you implying all the bikes with saddles higher than yours belong to elitists?

Kapusta

Well, don’t they?

indyfabz

You’re far from concerned about it yet it kinda turns you off.

If you want to be good at what you are doing you need to remember what you wrote earlier in a thread.

tomato coupe

Only the bikes with saddles higher than mine

PeteHski

"About 90% of MEN coming through here have their saddle set way too high"


So I think there probably is a culture of copying the pros going on here. Even if it is subliminal.

Koyote

To sum up: we have an OP who apparently has no clue about bike fit, and who thinks that anyone with more (than him) saddle-to-bar drop must have the saddle set too high. And we're at three pages and counting.

Spring weather can't arrive soon enough.