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Bicycle Messenger Riding Fast and Fluid Through NYC Traffic

Old 03-31-22, 06:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Juan Foote View Post
In truth, if you are the type messenger that is following traffic law, riding "correctly", being considerate of others you certainly will not be making a lot of runs quickly and probably won't be a messenger long. My understanding is that most messengers either age or nerve out, or get hurt bad enough that they can't. It is a dog eat dog type of business.
My two years of driving and cycling for a messenger service in Manhattan taught me that, despite what necomers to the courier game might think, there was no obvious correlation between daredevil tactics and income. I made pretty good money driving and riding lawfully. But cowboys gonna cowboy, and messengering does (or did) attract its share of testosterone junkies.
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Old 03-31-22, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat View Post
I think recumbent riders and the weirdos on those little wheel "travel" bikes are the ones that do that. 95% of cyclist are wimpy geeks, they wish that some fixed gear maniac would be associated with them. Trust me, nobody has ever seen the similarity between this guy (video) and some cyclist with a helmet mounted safety mirror and a reflective vest.

Just kidding. Sort of.
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itís a learned skill, and unless you can do it on a track bike I advise you donít try it on a geared bike or you might overextend and hurt yourself
Pure macho horse crap.
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Old 03-31-22, 07:05 PM
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why no front brakes ?
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have to wonder how many of these pearl clutching do-gooders in here are "take the lane" advocates
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Old 03-31-22, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by holytrousers View Post
why no front brakes ?
He might be practicing for a race, the unsanctioned track bike street races don't allow brakes
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Old 03-31-22, 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
Terry has a lot of cool videos and has trailed a lot of great riders, but this dude is the worst - he rides like an obnoxious asshat. Probably one of my favorites is Ana in Mexico City -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RH6naRedhP8
Get her on a pro team.
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Old 03-31-22, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by son_of_clyde View Post
have to wonder how many of these pearl clutching do-gooders in here are "take the lane" advocates
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Old 03-31-22, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
He might be practicing for a race, the unsanctioned track bike street races don't allow brakes
That's weird, why not ?
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Originally Posted by son_of_clyde View Post
have to wonder how many of these pearl clutching do-gooders in here are "take the lane" advocates

Have to wonder how many of these rah-rah boys ride more than once a year and actually have any skills whatsoever.

"Take the lane" isn't the same as ride right at pedestrians without brakes and running lights blindly hoping you just shoot a gap.

That guy isn't taking any lane, he's bouncing between them, hoping he doesn't guess wrong about what any driver will do.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
He might be practicing for a race, the unsanctioned track bike street races don't allow brakes

Nice of him to recruit a bunch of pedestrians to act as meat pylons. I hope a cop shoves his bike somewhere really mean.
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Old 04-01-22, 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by jack pot View Post
a lot of prayers have been said and are awaiting answers for all those sociopathic bike messengers who done been hit and runned and ruined for pittances ...................................... and riding fast and loose for pay is real cool unless you really have to do it to get by

Sorry, not buying that crap in this case.
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Old 04-01-22, 05:20 AM
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In the UK cycling with no front brake on public roads is illegal and bike couriers can get into trouble if caught using fixed gear bikes with no front brake - one infamously was jailed for killing a pedestrian in 2017.

I raced track in the late 80's, nothing particularly difficult about riding a track bike in and of itself but racing in a fast-moving group can be 'interesting' sometimes and requires a level of skill.

My bike in Amsterdam was a fixie but had a front brake too albeit there the typical Amsterdam bike is pedal brake only - but freewheel. I can hit 60km/h in a flat sprint so can get about pretty quickly but I would never do that in a busy city; only a moron would go about taking risks that endangered others in a public area where respecting others and their journey's is required. If a courier needs to endanger others and break laws to get around quickly then they are rubbish and should quit and find another job.


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Originally Posted by holytrousers View Post
That's weird, why not ?
Iím not sure tbh. Most are all bikes allowed but the serious ones are track bikes only
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
Sorry, not buying that crap in this case.
you're probably right in general because the last i heard was that a lot of messenger operations are using FOOT MESSENGERS instead of bicyclers because of labor laws, wage laws, workers comp laws & UBER
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Originally Posted by jack pot View Post
you're probably right in general because the last i heard was that a lot of messenger operations are using FOOT MESSENGERS instead of bicyclers because of labor laws, wage laws, workers comp laws & UBER
To be clear, I'm referring to this rider in particular, not messengers in general.
I'm not a torts lawyer, but from a liability standpoint, I'd think hiring someone who proudly posts videos of himself illegally riding fast through occupied crosswalks is absolutely insane.
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Old 04-02-22, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
To be clear, I'm referring to this rider in particular, not messengers in general.
I'm not a torts lawyer, but from a liability standpoint, I'd think hiring someone who proudly posts videos of himself illegally riding fast through occupied crosswalks is absolutely insane.
is it fair to say that you cannot flow like water?
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Yellow water circling the drain?
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
is it fair to say that you cannot flow like water?
If you have no valid argument, ad hominem will have to do.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
is it fair to say that you cannot flow like water?
That's funny stuff, coming from a guy who can't figure out how to extricate himself from the pack after he blows up.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
is it fair to say that you cannot flow like water?

I flow fine, thanks. That guy is a pig relying on luck. There's nothing "fluid" about what he's doing, it's completely erratic shifts between vehicles. And no, I don't need to hit the side of a vehicle with my hand because I stupidly cut it too close.

Is it fair to say you admire a sociopath?
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touching the moving vehicles is part of the culture. its harmless. Roadies do some weird things too so lets not diss the fixie scum too much, atleast he is on a bike!
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
touching the moving vehicles is part of the culture. its harmless.
And with this statement, you've outdone yourself.
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
And with this statement, you've outdone yourself.
look how often vehicles are getting touched in this footage from a race. Itís totally normal in a city. These 3 guys were the top finishers in Monstertrack that year which is one of the biggest/hardest of these races.
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_bGiVN_2qmo look how often vehicles are getting touched in this footage from a race. Itís totally normal in a city. These 3 guys were the top finishers in Monstertrack that year which is one of the biggest/hardest of these races.
Sure, I've read about Monstertrack at The Radavist; here's a fun quote from the article: "Can you imagine 100+ amped, maybe-drunk, ready-to-race, brakeless bike riders navigating from the Lower East Side to Union Square on a Saturday afternoon getting ready to go off in one of the biggest urban races in the world? "

What could go wrong?
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This topic reminds me, title included, of one of those gotcha internet ads like "this one new trick will have moms everywhere jumping for joy at reverse aging!" or "this new driver's law in your state has motorists furious about their insurance!". Maybe the OP writes the gotchas for those adverts.
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