keeping tires in foodsaver vacuum bags
03-31-22, 09:28 AM
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keeping tires in foodsaver vacuum bags
I had a pair of michelin tires that i kept in boxes. after 6/7 years when I took them out, there were cracks all over and my LBS told me that tires do degrade over time due to sunlight/ozone and just exposure to the general environment. This leads me thinking, would keeping fresh unused tires in foodsaver bags (not the general ziploc bags) and vacuum the hell out of them keep them from degrading?
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I guess that is one way to store tires. Another way is to let the shop store the tires until you need them by just not buying tires 7 years in advance.
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Originally Posted by totalnewbie
I had a pair of michelin tires that i kept in boxes. after 6/7 years when I took them out, there were cracks all over and my LBS told me that tires do degrade over time due to sunlight/ozone and just exposure to the general environment. This leads me thinking, would keeping fresh unused tires in foodsaver bags (not the general ziploc bags) and vacuum the hell out of them keep them from degrading?
But even that is probably over kill. The vacuum part really isn’t needed. All that is needed is the plastic barrier. A plastic storage box with a tight fitting lid will work just as well.
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But the vacuum will keep in that New Tire Smell !!!!!
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Originally Posted by totalnewbie
I had a pair of michelin tires that i kept in boxes. after 6/7 years when I took them out, there were cracks all over and my LBS told me that tires do degrade over time due to sunlight/ozone and just exposure to the general environment. This leads me thinking, would keeping fresh unused tires in foodsaver bags (not the general ziploc bags) and vacuum the hell out of them keep them from degrading?
Tires are mostly hydrocarbons. Pretty much all hydrocarbons break down over time.
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Originally Posted by SkinGriz
Were the tires stored somewhat close to electric motors? Refrigerator, air compressor, HVAC, etc?
Tires are mostly hydrocarbons. Pretty much all hydrocarbons break down over time.
Tires are mostly hydrocarbons. Pretty much all hydrocarbons break down over time.
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Originally Posted by totalnewbie
why? does electrical field acceletate the deteriotation of tires?
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I've had tires stored for much longer without any signs of deterioration that were not even in a wrapper or container. So each of our experiences is anecdotal and circumstantial. I'll go along with those that said your environment where stored wasn't good. Ozone, fumes from certain chemicals and etc.
I'd recommend you only keep one or two spares handy and maybe don't buy them till your current tire is near it's end of life. If you stockpile tires, then you'll miss out on getting to try new and different tires as most likely you'll only stockpile the tire you are certain of.
I'd recommend you only keep one or two spares handy and maybe don't buy them till your current tire is near it's end of life. If you stockpile tires, then you'll miss out on getting to try new and different tires as most likely you'll only stockpile the tire you are certain of.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
I guess that is one way to store tires. Another way is to let the shop store the tires until you need them by just not buying tires 7 years in advance.
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Originally Posted by Barry2
But the vacuum will keep in that New Tire Smell !!!!!
03-31-22, 11:45 AM
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I store tires I can’t get anymore, 26” mtb tires I like.
I also have a couple sets of the Rubino Pros because they are better than the new ones.
Kenda used to make a lightweight (low 200 gram) shallow 700c knobby model called Karvs. I use them on my wife’s flat bar bike. I have a few of those.
All of those are stored inside in boxes. So far they have been fine.
I also have some older tires hanging in the garage that are probably that old.
I have found that certain tires just crack. I used to use Zaffiros. The sidewalls on even new ones would crack in no time, much less in storage.
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I also have a couple sets of the Rubino Pros because they are better than the new ones.
Kenda used to make a lightweight (low 200 gram) shallow 700c knobby model called Karvs. I use them on my wife’s flat bar bike. I have a few of those.
All of those are stored inside in boxes. So far they have been fine.
I also have some older tires hanging in the garage that are probably that old.
I have found that certain tires just crack. I used to use Zaffiros. The sidewalls on even new ones would crack in no time, much less in storage.
John
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I have tires that have been hanging in my bike work room, with no protection, for 4-5 years. They look the same as they did when they were hung up. They get no direct sunlight and are not close to anything electric. I almost always have the ceiling fan on in that room, so air is circulated around them.
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Your much better off storing your money for 6-7 years and then buying tires when you need them. Dollars are much smaller and don't need to be vacuum bagged.
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Originally Posted by Ogsarg
Your much better off storing your money for 6-7 years and then buying tires when you need them. Dollars are much smaller and don't need to be vacuum bagged.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
03-31-22, 04:17 PM
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Ozone is what damages the tires and any airtight bag will work. A lot depends on the tire compounds as I have tires that are 20 years old and OK to ride. Best to keep away from sources of ozone like a home air purifier. Any of the vaccum storage bags will work but it begs the question of why you are storing tires for years.
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An air tight UV blocking container might be the ticket.
Could store them on the wheel they are being used on & if they make it to their shelf life, toss on a newly purchased one.
Could store them on the wheel they are being used on & if they make it to their shelf life, toss on a newly purchased one.
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03-31-22, 05:25 PM
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I don't so much 'store' tires as keep them in my underseat bag. There, the sit in an ordinary ZipLoc bag with a little cornstarch so when I do use them they can slide into position in the tire. A few years between flats doesn't seem to hurt them. Before taking them on a tour, I might buy fresh ones.
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Originally Posted by Calsun
Ozone is what damages the tires and any airtight bag will work. A lot depends on the tire compounds as I have tires that are 20 years old and OK to ride. Best to keep away from sources of ozone like a home air purifier. Any of the vaccum storage bags will work but it begs the question of why you are storing tires for years.
