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Old 05-02-22, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by delbiker1 View Post
IMO, that is the answer. I get off the bike a lot more than I used to. One of the reasons I now use mostly spd.
Yep, once I wear through the few pairs I have (probably in about 12 weeks &#128521 Iíll look into trying a new system.
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Old 05-02-22, 07:58 PM
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Ten steps on a lava bed?

Not buying this anymore. Time to bounce.
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Old 05-02-22, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Ten steps on a lava bed?

Not buying this anymore. Time to bounce.
If I was simply walking more than Iím saying I would either just stop walking in them, buy cleat covers, or accept Iím going to go through 3-4 pairs of cleats per year. I certainly wouldnít post about it.

In the original thread I admitted to wearing them from the bike locker to changing rooms at work, which was by far my main source of walking in them. I was also less fastidious about taking them off first when I got home and perhaps walking from the garage to the front door in them.

The bike is kept essentially next to my rear laneway. I maybe step once or twice taking it out in my shoes, and not at all when I get back as I take them off the moment Iím out of the saddle.

If Iím just going out for a ride I rarely/if ever stop and end up right back at my garage with my only footfall being at a handful of traffic lights.

Commuting to work and itís the same story leaving/returning to home, but thereís also the distance between the plastic door and chair, that I posted above. 4-5 steps either way.

So a simple return cycle ďcostsĒ about two steps, commute say 15 in total.

Thatís the whole point of posting, originally and, especially, now. I was surprised at the wear I was incurring when I was walking much more in them, but more so now I do virtually no walking in them.

The fact the wear has remained the same, despite a massive reduction in how much I walk in them, suggests itís not the walking at all.
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Old 05-03-22, 05:12 AM
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I have no idea what you're doing. All I can say is that I have cleats that I've had on my shoes (Look deltas on one pair, Look keos on another pair) for multiple years, and they don't look anywhere near that bad.

In fact, I've never seen cleats that look that bad. I've always changed mine well before they've gotten to that point.
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Old 05-03-22, 05:59 AM
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This is after 3 seasons which include riding rollers and Wahoo during winter.

I may have figured out what is going on here. When I walk with the above shoes on, I walk flat footed. I do not walk as if I am in standard shoes. The cleats only make flat contact with the ground. This may help explain how I can get such long life from a set of cleats. When I rode Look pedals I got 6-7 years out of a set of cleats. Since the Shimano pedals are relatively new to me and I am going into season 4 with them it is likely I will see the same service life from the Shimano cleats as I did with the Look cleats.
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Old 05-03-22, 06:07 AM
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They are not meant to be walked on for any appreciable distance.
It is likely the OP is a heavy walker as well...perhaps sliding his feet instead of lifting his feet while walking...just a guess.
I know a few people who wear out the soles of shoes in months. I have shoes that are decades old and show little sole wear.
It also depends on how people walk. Many today seem to drag or slide their feet instead of lifting them. They also have a much heavier tread which wears the bottoms more quickly.
Might be something worth looking into, especially if he wears out shoes, etc. quickly, though he may not realize it. Also uneven wear on the soles may be a sign of a foot problem...pronation/supination, etc.
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Old 05-03-22, 06:37 AM
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When I have to get off the bike and walk any more than a couple steps I try to just walk on my heels, holding my toes up, just so I don’t get a bunch of dirt or sand in the cleats. Yeah it looks funny and you’ll slide if you’re on a slick tile floor like inside a 7-11 getting ice and a drink, but I purposely try to keep the cleat up off the ground. Going down stairs like that can be *****!

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Old 05-03-22, 09:13 AM
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I bought some supposedly real Shimano cleats on some Chinese site based on some info I read here. 4 pairs for $20 (+ free shipping) or something like that. They wore out really fast. I went through 2 sets in less than a year. I got some real cleats to compare and those have been in use about a year and a half with minimal wear so I'm convinced the cheap ones were knock-offs even though the packaging was pretty convincing.
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Old 05-04-22, 05:47 PM
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Lot of hoopla. I already said it's because of the stairs. It's not about distance, it's about the actual use case. Doesn't matter if you use look, time, or shimano. If you walk down stairs in cleats, you will ruin them. Get covers, or take off your shoes for the stairs. I guarantee that the wear will subside.
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Old 05-04-22, 06:19 PM
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I agree with cxwrench. He hit the nail on the head. SPD-SL cleats usually last significantly longer than your example.
Get cleat covers to compensate for your excessive walking on them. No brainer.............
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Old 05-04-22, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by smashndash View Post
Lot of hoopla. I already said it's because of the stairs. It's not about distance, it's about the actual use case. Doesn't matter if you use look, time, or shimano. If you walk down stairs in cleats, you will ruin them. Get covers, or take off your shoes for the stairs. I guarantee that the wear will subside.
And Iíve said that I no longer walk down stairs in them. I havenít taken a single step down a stair in these cleats.

The stairs were from the original post/my first set of cleats.

Thatís what, I think, makes it interesting. Iíve cut out more than 90% of the walking I was doing in them, including stairs, and the wear is almost the same.
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Old 05-04-22, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cramic View Post
And Iíve said that I no longer walk down stairs in them. I havenít taken a single step down a stair in these cleats.

The stairs were from the original post/my first set of cleats.

Thatís what, I think, makes it interesting. Iíve cut out more than 90% of the walking I was doing in them, including stairs, and the wear is almost the same.
oh what. yeah ok, I got nothing then, my bad. Let us know if you figure it out.
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Old 05-04-22, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by frogman View Post
I agree with cxwrench. He hit the nail on the head. SPD-SL cleats usually last significantly longer than your example.
Get cleat covers to compensate for your excessive walking on them. No brainer.............
I take 2-5 steps in my cleats on leisure rides, 10-15 in a day when Iím commuting. If that sounds like excessive walking to you then Iím guessing you must levitate.
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Old 05-04-22, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by smashndash View Post
oh what. yeah ok, I got nothing then, my bad. Let us know if you figure it out.
Iím wondering if:

1) First set of cleats, from Giant store (so highly likely to be genuine), was simply a matter of too much walking and stairs, as you suggest. I didnít know better.
2) The second set I actually got from a friend, and were in Shimano packaging, but I donít know their source. So perhaps fake?

My third set, currently in use and early days, have already shown far less wear than the other two. These are genuine Shimanos (reputable store, authentic packaging).

Time will tell!
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Old 05-04-22, 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
Because it doesn't take much to see what's happening in your case. There is ONLY one answer. If you're wearing the yellow pads off the cleats it's because you're walking too much/dragging your feet. What else would cause this? Little aliens that sneak into your house at night and chew on your cleats? At least at this point (after seeing a few of the last posts) you've come to terms w/ what everyone else is posting and know that you are the cause of the wear.
https://www.amazon.com/SHIMANO-Shima...r&pageNumber=2

Here you go mate. Perhaps thereís an alien invasion?

Or perhaps you should be a little more humble in future and realise just because you havenít seen something before doesnít mean it doesnít happen. Such a myopic view of the world you have.
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Old 05-04-22, 09:39 PM
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If your cleats are fakes then I'm still right. Genuine Shimano cleats don't wear like that.
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Old 05-04-22, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cxwrench View Post
If your cleats are fakes then I'm still right. Genuine Shimano cleats don't wear like that.
Ah, a guy who canít admit heís wrong. As I say, some humbleness wouldnít go amiss.

I suppose youíd simply divine the Giant store had sold you knock offs and then levitated when you realised a handful of steps were causing excessive wear? Or explained to yourself how youíre actually walking far more in them than you say.

I would though have thought an Einstein like you would realise that the same wear, despite 90% reduction in walking, might imply itís not the walking. Oh thatís right, I was lying.

Iím guessing not every complaint on Amazon is a fake pair and perhaps Shimano sometimes release a bad batch. Who knows.

Sorry, you do of course.
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Old 05-05-22, 11:51 AM
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The constructive responses you have received from BF members on your thread have been met with a sarcastic jab response. It is obvious you don't want our help. The sarcasm is unwarranted and is against forum policy. I have asked to have this thread closed.
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Ok folks.....No need for anyone to get snippy or rude.
We're just discussing cleats.
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The constructive responses you have received from BF members on your thread have been met with a sarcastic jab response. It is obvious you don't want our help. The sarcasm is unwarranted and is against forum policy. I have asked to have this thread closed.
If thatís true itís to one member in particular, who has accused me of lying and on more than just this thread. Did you miss the part where he accused me of thinking aliens were tampering with my cleats? Sorry, that will probably be construed as sarcasm.

I think youíll find the majority of my responses have been grateful and reflective. Did you even read the thread? Care to give some examples to support your position if so?
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Ok folks.....No need for anyone to get snippy or rude.
We're just discussing cleats.
Fair enough.

I think the problem may have been solved anyway. First set wore out due to newbie behaviour/walking too much on them (inc. stairs) and second were perhaps not genuine (although the mate I got them from reckons they came from the Trek shop). Maybe a bad batch found their way into the Perth market?

Anyway, Amazon reviews show itís a problem that effects many people from time to time and my latest set cleats are already wearing much better.

Time will tell!
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If thatís true itís to one member in particular, who has accused me of lying and on more than just this thread. Did you miss the part where he accused me of thinking aliens were tampering with my cleats? Sorry, that will probably be construed as sarcasm.

I think youíll find the majority of my responses have been grateful and reflective. Did you even read the thread? Care to give some examples to support your position if so?

Some of your snarky, rude remarks.

"I would though have thought an Einstein like you would realise"
"If that sounds like excessive walking to you then Iím guessing you must levitate."
Totally uneccessary responses.
Its good you didn't give the moderator a snarky response.

Read the guidelines he gave and carry on.......................
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Some of your snarky, rude remarks.

"I would though have thought an Einstein like you would realise"
"If that sounds like excessive walking to you then Iím guessing you must levitate."
Totally uneccessary responses.
Its good you didn't give the moderator a snarky response.

Read the guidelines he gave and carry on.......................
Oh so to cxwrench, who has accused me of lying across more than one thread and brought up aliens, and you supporting cxwrench? Funny you donít mention cxwrenchís sarcastic comments, isnít it?

What about my replies to everybody else?

You get responded to in kind.
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