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I yelled at a cyclist, today.

Old 05-17-22, 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by WhyFi View Post
He won't tell us where he was so inconvenienced, by these entitled cyclists, that he had to harangue them from the safety of his car... but he'll take me off ignore and summon me back to a thread (that I'd been unsubscribed from for a week and a half) so that he can invite me over and offer refreshments (that I wouldn't need to keep on his wheel).

Sounds legit.
Sorry but it was a case of mistaken identity. You were never put on the ignore list and I do enjoy your thoughts, wisdom and humor. My apologies.

If you don ‘t want to accept my apology, it’s perfectly understandable.
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Old 05-18-22, 07:55 AM
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No one that wants to yell/tell a cyclist from inside a car that they are riding wrong is worth listening to, IMO
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Originally Posted by 5teve View Post
No one that wants to yell/tell a cyclist from inside a car that they are riding wrong is worth listening to, IMO

Wants to is one thing, I don't think anyone is immune from feelings of frustration. But if they're actually yelling at people on the road then they're driving wrong, so why should I assume there's anything valid about their opinions?

Truth is that most times I've had people yell stuff out windows at me, it's so hard to hear what they're yelling from a moving vehicle that it pretty much sounds about as meaningful as Charlie Brown's teacher. And when I can understand it, it's something stupid like "ride on the sidewalk" or just name calling.
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Old 05-20-22, 09:27 PM
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It’s weird that when I’m driving my car, all the idiots are on bikes, and when I’m riding my bike, all the idiots are in cars!

Are they following me?

Hey, just because I’m paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get me!
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I must admit that although I found this thread amusing there are some really cringe takes here.
I guess nothing can escape the polarization in today’s cultural climate, even cycling.
Empathy and understanding is increasingly being displaced by anger and judgement.
I love bikes, being made of multiple mechanical parts, they’re in essence machines, like cars, motorcycles and planes, which I also love.
So I’m a cyclist, a driver, a rider, and a flyer.
We need to share our space with each other regardless of what machine we’re on is my assessment.
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Originally Posted by Yune_Garage View Post
I must admit that although I found this thread amusing there are some really cringe takes here.
I guess nothing can escape the polarization in today’s cultural climate, even cycling.
Empathy and understanding is increasingly being displaced by anger and judgement.
I love bikes, being made of multiple mechanical parts, they’re in essence machines, like cars, motorcycles and planes, which I also love.
So I’m a cyclist, a driver, a rider, and a flyer.
We need to share our space with each other regardless of what machine we’re on is my assessment.
Now if I could just get a good light set of wings for my bike I could really fly on those downhills!
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Old 05-26-22, 09:56 AM
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Now if I could just get a good light set of wings for my bike I could really fly on those downhills!
Now that would be a sight to see! Cheers
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Old 05-26-22, 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Yune_Garage View Post
I must admit that although I found this thread amusing there are some really cringe takes here.
I guess nothing can escape the polarization in today’s cultural climate, even cycling.
Empathy and understanding is increasingly being displaced by anger and judgement.
I love bikes, being made of multiple mechanical parts, they’re in essence machines, like cars, motorcycles and planes, which I also love.
So I’m a cyclist, a driver, a rider, and a flyer.
We need to share our space with each other regardless of what machine we’re on is my assessment.
Very well said.
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Originally Posted by Yune_Garage View Post
I must admit that although I found this thread amusing there are some really cringe takes here.
I guess nothing can escape the polarization in today’s cultural climate, even cycling.
Empathy and understanding is increasingly being displaced by anger and judgement.
I love bikes, being made of multiple mechanical parts, they’re in essence machines, like cars, motorcycles and planes, which I also love.
So I’m a cyclist, a driver, a rider, and a flyer.
We need to share our space with each other regardless of what machine we’re on is my assessment.
Yeah, well, I ain't sharing my back country roads with your airplane.

Though I once saw a near collision with an ultralight taking off just as a crop duster flew down over the trees. Kind of scary, and I was the guy on the bike at the other end of the field!
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Old 05-26-22, 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by A350driver View Post
Now if I could just get a good light set of wings for my bike I could really fly on those downhills!
Just ride a bike with rim brakes. According to some Forum members you will fly right off the side of a mountain unless you have disks.
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Old 05-26-22, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Yune_Garage View Post
I must admit that although I found this thread amusing there are some really cringe takes here.
I guess nothing can escape the polarization in today’s cultural climate, even cycling.
Empathy and understanding is increasingly being displaced by anger and judgement.
I love bikes, being made of multiple mechanical parts, they’re in essence machines, like cars, motorcycles and planes, which I also love.
So I’m a cyclist, a driver, a rider, and a flyer.
We need to share our space with each other regardless of what machine we’re on is my assessment.
I think one of the difficult parts, at least for me, is remembering that we're all human even when I am perceiving that my life is in danger. Adrenaline kicks in and fight-or-flight makes me think and say things that are rather harsh. Add to it when the driver tries to defend their dangerous actions, and it's hard to have a peaceful understanding with each other.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Just ride a bike with rim brakes. According to some Forum members you will fly right off the side of a mountain unless you have disks.

If I want to fly going downhill, I just put the front wheel into a pothole.
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Originally Posted by Yune_Garage View Post
We need to share our space with each other regardless of what machine we’re on is my assessment.
Yup-just so long as they stay TF out of MY WAY!!
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Originally Posted by Yune_Garage View Post
So I’m a cyclist, a driver, a rider, and a flyer.
We need to share our space with each other regardless of what machine we’re on is my assessment.
I like the sentiment, but I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.
A lot of places have taken down their signs that said "Share The Road" and had a picture of a bicycle because people were interpreting that to mean that bicyclists need to keep out of the way. I don't think that's what you mean, but I'm interested in how someone who operates so many different kinds of machines thinks about "sharing" the road.

TL/DR: Cool post, please say more!
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Originally Posted by pdlamb View Post
Though I once saw a near collision with an ultralight taking off just as a crop duster flew down over the trees. Kind of scary, and I was the guy on the bike at the other end of the field!

Uh-uh, not an ultralight, it was an oil truck:
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Originally Posted by A350driver View Post
It’s weird that when I’m driving my car, all the idiots are on bikes, and when I’m riding my bike, all the idiots are in cars!
That's a corollary of "Everyone that drives faster than me is crazy. Everyone that drives slower is an a--hole."
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Originally Posted by urbanknight View Post
I think one of the difficult parts, at least for me, is remembering that we're all human even when I am perceiving that my life is in danger. Adrenaline kicks in and fight-or-flight makes me think and say things that are rather harsh. Add to it when the driver tries to defend their dangerous actions, and it's hard to have a peaceful understanding with each other.
this was me just last week. the next day i regretted what i said, kind of hope he did too.
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this was me just last week. the next day i regretted what i said, kind of hope he did too.
I got my last episode on video and will probably publish it when I get over the shame, and bleep out all the choice vocabulary.
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I thought I was going to be yelled at or honked at yesterday.

I took a side street to return home, Manor Road East. It runs parallel to the main road, Eglinton Avenue East, that I took the day before. Manor Road is marked as a bike route, so I thought it would be nice and quiet. But it was busy with cars and four-way stops. The road is only three car widths wide and is lined with parked cars outside their houses. So any cyclist will have to take over his entire side of the road because oncoming traffic would be on the other half. That gives no chance of any car behind a cyclist any opportunity to pass.

So while I was pedalling as fast as I could, the cars behind patiently followed for two kilometres. I must have been doing about 20km/hr in a 40km/hr zone.

My guess is that all the vehicles that drive this road must have already been aware of cyclists like me. If anybody would try to get into an argument with me, I was prepared to tell him if he wanted to go faster, take Eglinton Avenue.

The day before, I did take Eglinton Avenue and it was empty. Everytime I stopped at a traffic light, there were no cars behind me. Interesting.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
I like the sentiment, but I'm not sure I understand what you mean by that.
A lot of places have taken down their signs that said "Share The Road" and had a picture of a bicycle because people were interpreting that to mean that bicyclists need to keep out of the way. I don't think that's what you mean, but I'm interested in how someone who operates so many different kinds of machines thinks about "sharing" the road.

TL/DR: Cool post, please say more!

Hey thanks.
I’m not quite sure how “sharing the road” would be applied technically (i.e infrastructure), but what I mean to say is something along the lines of “be kind to one another”. The “sharing the road” part will be a byproduct of that kindness or consideration for others people wether they’re driving car, riding a bike, or a motorcycle. Easier said than done.
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I have complete respect for cyclists on the road as I am one, but when I see a behaviour that just puts everyone at risk, it's too much for me.
Road cyclist riding in the middle of the lane on a narrow road. There was wide side lane for bikes. It was impossible to pass him without getting dangerously close. When the opportunity to safely pass presented itself after about a km, I rolled down the window and let him know what I thought of his unsafe manner. He gave me the one finger salute, I yelled "stop putting lives at risk" and moved on.
My biggest concern is the safety of other cyclists, because when drivers get fed up with riders like that, it puts the safe riders in danger.
I've ridden this road hundreds of times and yes, the side lane is perfectly suited for cyclists
Things aren't any different in this country. You have to be wary of the idiots on two wheels (and four) that feel inclined to do whatever they please and often don't even realize how narrowly they escaped catastrophe. BTW, my wife and I lived in Vicenza back in '89. Beautiful country!
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Has anyone else noticed that some posters with very high post counts seem to have very little to actually contribute, and just seem to be hanging around, waiting to pick internet arguments or troll?
My ignore list gets larger every day.
And the one who is most like that, liked your comment!
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And the one who is most like that, liked your comment!

If you really want to play that game, follow his likes and you'll see he wasn't referring to me.

I find it hilarious that you start a thread about how you picked an argument while driving and you're the one accusing people of trolling.
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I have complete respect for cyclists on the road as I am one, but when I see a behaviour that just puts everyone at risk, it's too much for me.
Road cyclist riding in the middle of the lane on a narrow road. There was wide side lane for bikes. It was impossible to pass him without getting dangerously close. When the opportunity to safely pass presented itself after about a km, I rolled down the window and let him know what I thought of his unsafe manner. He gave me the one finger salute, I yelled "stop putting lives at risk" and moved on.
My biggest concern is the safety of other cyclists, because when drivers get fed up with riders like that, it puts the safe riders in danger.
I've ridden this road hundreds of times and yes, the side lane is perfectly suited for cyclists
sometimes on the roads here it is more dangerous to get doored from cycling on the bike path on the side of the road. But if it is a safe bike lane then the cyclist has no reason to do so. Should have stopped and asked him to know his reason.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions View Post
If you really want to play that game, follow his likes and you'll see he wasn't referring to me.

I find it hilarious that you start a thread about how you picked an argument while driving and you're the one accusing people of trolling.
What makes you believe I was referring to you?
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