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Old 05-24-22, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
I don't nor ever will work as bike mechanic in a shop.

However, I have used both stands. Enough to know that the Park isn't THAT superior to others.
Just by you saying this makes me doubt the veracity of your statements.

Honestly, I don't care what stand you get, or what you think of the worth. There are folks on this site who are perfectly happy working on their bikes upside down on the floor. But then, there are those folks who know and appreciate quality products, and understand why they cost more. Does Park rely on their reputation when pricing things? Yep--a very well-deserved reputation.

I have a bike pump that cost more than your Bikehand stand. Is it for everybody? Nope--only those who appreciate quality, and how it benefits me as a cyclist.

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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
However, I have used both stands. Enough to know that the Park isn't THAT superior to others.
Ah, but you recognize the Park is superior, and so your point is that it's just not 170 of your dollars superior.
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
Oh goodness. Directly from the link you just shared...

The patent-pending notice has no legal force in itself. The product or process is not legally protected at that point.
Perhaps you should have read a little further

However, it warns potential competitors that a patent application has been filed and that they can be sued for patent infringement after the patent is granted if they lift the idea. Moreover, the patent protection will be backdated to the date that the provisional patent application was filed.
In any case. You buy the stand that you like and I'll buy the stand I like. In the end, I'll be the one with a $170 more in my pocket to buy more bike goodies and I'll with a stand that works just as good for my home bike needs.
Come talk to us in 10 years. Come talk to us in 30 years. I purchased my home stand in the mid90s. I use it constantly. I did replace the spring clamp because I wanted to but it didn’t need to be replaced. I don’t recall how much I spent on my PRS-6 in the 90s but it was not cheap. Probably the equivalent to the price today.

The other stand I purchased second hand but it was well used when I bought it about 15 years ago and was made from 1996 to 2001. It’s 20 years old and still in great shape.

Both were well worth the investment…as would one of the Park Tool stands today.
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Old 05-24-22, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
Ah, but you recognize the Park is superior, and so your point is that it's just not 170 of your dollars superior.
No I don't recognize that the Park is superior. Just pointing out that some here do think that it is.

Having used both, I couldn't justify the price difference.

Carry on with the Park Tool love...

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Old 05-24-22, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
No I don't recognize that the Park is superior. Just pointing out that some here do think that it is.

Having used both, I couldn't justify the price difference.

Carry on with the Park Tool love...
Haha! Well I won’t dispute the BikeHand is superior for backpedalling!!
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Old 05-25-22, 10:40 AM
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I bought one of these a couple of years ago.
https://sportneer.com/products/sport...-repair-stand/
So far I`m very satisfied.
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Originally Posted by roadsnakes View Post
I bought one of these a couple of years ago.
https://sportneer.com/products/sport...-repair-stand/
So far I`m very satisfied.
Seems pretty nice for the money.
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Seems pretty nice for the money.
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DEFINITELY!

With the amount of flats I`ve gotten in the past two years, and the ease of cleaning my chain and bike, it has paid for itself already.
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Old 05-25-22, 01:49 PM
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thanks for the suggestions, always good to see alternatives to Park Tools when the budget is smaller....
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OMG!!!! They copied Park Tool!!!!
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Depends on what you call “easily adjusted”. Holding the bike up while screwing in the clamp is a major pain. Being able to just swing the arm of the clamp closed is much easier.
300% markup is not feasible for most people just to have a slightly easier clamp.
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Some here have never heard of R&D and how it's not free. Some couldn't care less about the manufacturer that invest in the R&D going out of business unbeknownst that when that happens there will not be anything for the I.P. theives to rip-off. Leaving everyone with zero options.

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Old 05-28-22, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by nel e nel View Post
300% markup is not feasible for most people just to have a slightly easier clamp.
Where did you get that 300% number?

People need to understand that if you want to run with the big dogs in this sport, it’s not cheap.
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Originally Posted by smd4 View Post
Where did you get that 300% number?

People need to understand that if you want to run with the big dogs in this sport, it’s not cheap.
The Bikehand stand that was linked to is $111, the Park Tool stand that was linked to is $430
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If you don't want to spend a lot of money, the best one on the market with 5 star reviews from over 9,500 reviewers and not one even 4 1/2 star rating on Amazon is the BikeHand bike repair stand. It works with road bikes and mountain bikes, it can hold up to 55 pound bikes, and the cost is only $119! This stand got higher reviews than the Park Pro stand did!!
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The Bikehand stand that was linked to is $111, the Park Tool stand that was linked to is $430
Cheese to chalk comparison. There are other advantages to any of the Park stands over their cheaper copies. I can get parts for a stand (or 2 stands of different models) from the mid90s…i.e. a 25+ year old stand. I’ve replaced the clamp (because I wanted to). I replaced the pads because they wear out. Can the same be said of cheap copies? Could you even get repair parts today?

Buying tools twice is rather expensive.
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You trust Amazon reviews? You think a significant number of the people gushing over the Bikehand stand have used the Park versions? (I don't, and I don't.)
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A Chinese knock-off promoted on Amazon... Who could imagine? 😛

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If there were only a couple of dozen reviews gushing over a product then those could indeed be faked, but not over 9,000!

So you can replace parts on a $450 stand, you can buy 4 of those other stands for the price of one Park stand, and how much are the replacement parts? probably expensive because it comes from Park, I bet that cheap stand will last at least 15 years. So you would have to replace that cheap stand more than once to pay for the Park, probably 5 times if you count replacement parts being purchased.

I think that cheap stand is just fine for a first time stand and they have a restricted budget to work with.

Read the comments on these YouTube videos:

Then there is this review of several bike stands:
https://www.bicycling.com/bikes-gear...ands-mechanic/

I'm not saying, nor ever said, this is the best bike stand in the world, but for the price, and based on all the reviews, it's a good deal at a bargain price, perfect for the beginner that needs an inexpensive stand, it isn't for the professional mechanic.
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I have a Bike Hand and am super happy with it. Light enough I throw it in the car on multi day trips. I'm sure the Park Tool stands are a better quality tool. Never had a PT stand but I do have a few of there tools. I expect their stand is Snap On tool quality. First rate for the pro. Bike Hand is Craftsman tool in quality. Good quality for most home mechanics. The NH works well on both of my odd shapes carbon frames.
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I find it pretty funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on a bike--sometimes well over ten thousand dollars! And yet when it comes to the tools to maintain these bikes, we cheap out.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Cheese to chalk comparison. There are other advantages to any of the Park stands over their cheaper copies. I can get parts for a stand (or 2 stands of different models) from the mid90s…i.e. a 25+ year old stand. I’ve replaced the clamp (because I wanted to). I replaced the pads because they wear out. Can the same be said of cheap copies? Could you even get repair parts today?

Buying tools twice is rather expensive.
Let's assume the Bike Hand stand wears out and parts aren't available... At $120, I could buy three of of them over the course of 25+ years and it would still cost me less than one Park Tool Stand.
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I find it pretty funny that we can spend thousands of dollars on a bike--sometimes well over ten thousand dollars! And yet when it comes to the tools to maintain these bikes, we cheap out.
We cheap out on tools so we can afford more bikes, upgrade bike components and buy more expensive bikes.

Buying a bike hand stand leaves me left over money to put toward carbon wheels and higher end drive train components.

And to be honest...You don't need super expensive Park Tools to work on a bike. I have had this stand since 2016...It's even cheaper than the Bikehand and I've used it multiple times to work on my fat bike, road bike and mountain bike.

https://www.amazon.com/SONGMICS-Repa...%2C323&sr=8-10

And all of my allen wrenches and torx wrenches are off brand tools that I purchased at ACE hardware, spoke wrenches, valve core removers and other such little tools are off brand tools I purchased on Amazon. Neither my stand nor any of my tools has ever broken. The only name branded tools I own are a Bontrager and Ritchey torque key.

As far as Park Tool...I own some of their glueless patches, tire boots and one mini-tool kit that I put in my seat pack.

At the end of the day...by making these smart purchases, the bottom lines is that I have more disposable income left in my pocket.
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Originally Posted by nel e nel View Post
The Bikehand stand that was linked to is $111, the Park Tool stand that was linked to is $430
This is Park's current home stand. Priced at $220.

https://www.parktool.com/product/hom...egory=Portable
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I have three stands, the latest two are only for shaped tubes which my antique Park 101L clamp and 102L arm don't do. My bikes are vintage so the TT crushing is not a worry and this stand is easily the best investment I ever made in cycling. I think I bought it in the 70's for my UO-8 and with the replacement jaw covers it still functions like it did new, fast and rigid.
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