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Foot ridding front wheel when turning

Old 05-31-22, 07:26 PM
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Foot ridding front wheel when turning

Hey guys, Ive been riding a new bike the past two days that I commandeered from my houses deep storage, and its behaving very strangely. Ive noticed that when making a sharp turn at low speeds, there is a "failure mode" where my foot hits the front wheel. This bike is has a very short stem so it is very twitchy, its also much too small for me (it says 47 on the frame but I dont think its actually that small.) In trying to recreate this failure mode I almost crashed a few times. luckily it seems like this is impossible at high speeds because of how bikes turn, if that makes sense. Anyone else deal with this before? Is it because im riding too small of a bicycle? Its wicked fast

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Old 05-31-22, 07:29 PM
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Old 05-31-22, 07:31 PM
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You should be glad its just a ridding problem, and not kerfudding.
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"Toe overlap"

​​​​​​https://www.rivbike.com/pages/toe-overlap

​​​​​​Who's Afraid of Toe Overlap?.
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Do you remember if it has a tripple?
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Bush league troll has gone to the well far more than once too often.
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Old 05-31-22, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by LarrySellerz View Post
Anyone else deal with this before?
Yes, we've all dealt with you before.
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Old 05-31-22, 08:24 PM
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Change it to a flat pedal or remove the toe clips or straps so you can move feet back against the pedals when turning.
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Old 05-31-22, 09:00 PM
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D@mn, when will I learn to check the OP before reading these rediculously posts.

Well played, Larry.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
Bush league troll has gone to the well far more than once too often.
Maybe so but there are already takers.
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Old 05-31-22, 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dedhed View Post
"Toe overlap"

​​​​​​https://www.rivbike.com/pages/toe-overlap

​​​​​​Who's Afraid of Toe Overlap?.
Thank you! I haven't ridden a frame this small since elementary school so I never noticed it before. Honestly I almost crashed when trying to recreate it, it was pretty gnarly. An argument against toe clips for tiny bikes I guess

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Old 05-31-22, 10:40 PM
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It isn’t necessarily just small frames, although it is very common with smaller sizes, my 56cm criterium has toe overlap.

It isn’t critical if you know it is going to happen and setup your tight turns so you don’t have to peddle in the middle of it. Worst case, you just back peddle half a turn and use your opposite foot to keep momentum going.

John
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Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
It isn’t necessarily just small frames, although it is very common with smaller sizes, my 56cm criterium has toe overlap.

It isn’t critical if you know it is going to happen and setup your tight turns so you don’t have to peddle in the middle of it. Worst case, you just back peddle half a turn and use your opposite foot to keep momentum going.

John
On really tight and slow turns (because you can't go fast on a very tight turn anyway), you can also scoot the bike around with one foot on the ground and another foot on the pedals. Otherwise, on flat pedals, you simply move your feet all the way back so the toes are on the pedals. No need to half pedal. Half pedaling looks dumb and if the light turns green and you're in the middle, of the road, in the middle of the tight turn, you'll be graced with horns from impatient drivers. If riding around in the city where tight turns are common, it's best to use flat pedals and for many other reasons when riding in crowded places.
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Originally Posted by koala logs View Post
On really tight and slow turns (because you can't go fast on a very tight turn anyway), you can also scoot the bike around with one foot on the ground and another foot on the pedals. Otherwise, on flat pedals, you simply move your feet all the way back so the toes are on the pedals. No need to half pedal. Half pedaling looks dumb and if the light turns green and you're in the middle, of the road, in the middle of the tight turn, you'll be graced with horns from impatient drivers. If riding around in the city where tight turns are common, it's best to use flat pedals and for many other reasons when riding in crowded places.
Iíve had my criterium since 1990 and it doesnít have flat pedals. Never fell on my face or ended up in the middle of the road due to toe overlap.

But maybe in your world.

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Bush league troll has gone to the well far more than once too often.
Eh, I think he's far above bush league in his trolling. He's really good at it, and perseverant, yes?
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Eh, I think he's far above bush league in his trolling. He's really good at it, and perseverant, yes?
Honestly I didn't even know that this topic was a horse beaten to death, calling it a "failure mode" wasn't even meant to be trolling. Im just a natural troll I guess. It did feel really dangerous, but I guess thats because I was deliberately testing how bad it could be by making weird turns. Legit almost crashed. size 13 ft on a 47 frame don't mix
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Old 06-01-22, 02:42 AM
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Tell us all the exact make, model and year of your deep storage triple chainring road machine and post a few pictures.
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Eh, I think he's far above bush league in his trolling. He's really good at it, and perseverant, yes?
To me, being good means not being obvious. Heís way too obvious to be good.

To wit: The guy claims to be a bike hoarder who rides a ton but doesnít know what toe overlap is? Can I interest you in a slightly used bridge in Brooklyn?

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Every bike I have ever owned has had toe clip overlap, even the ones I did not steal.....err.....commandeer.
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Old 06-01-22, 05:17 AM
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it is ok man, mine does the same.
it's small but that means it manoeuvers well so leave it as is
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Have you considered shortening your feet? Real cyclists don't have toes.
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If you haven't fallen yet from toe overlap you obviously aren't trying hard enough...keep trying and you'll succeed
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