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So what will be the "newest" thing in gearing.

Old 07-10-22, 09:27 AM
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So what will be the "newest" thing in gearing.

At 84 I have seen almost all of the latest is gearing we must have according to advertisements. It started with the trusty 10 speed, and then proceeded thru 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 speeds in the rear, and a triple thrown in at the BB for good measure. We were told you were old fashioned and out of date if you dont have the latest. So we ended up with a 24 or 36 speed bike. Right now to be in fashion you have to be riding the one X.

So does anyone dare to suggest where the MFG will go now to create the latest must have bike in the way of gearing?
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Ive been seeing the pinion gear bikes mentioned on here. It looks like a gearbox where the bottom bracket would normally be. Is this the new thing?
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gearing was a large factor in the growth of the 'mountain bike' in the 90's

and also in the growth of the 'gravel bike' more recently
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
It started with the trusty 10 speed, and then proceeded thru 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 speeds in the rear ...

So does anyone dare to suggest where the MFG will go now to create the latest must have bike in the way of gearing?
Ummmmmmmm ... 13?
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Automatic with constant velocity shifting. Smoooooth with no actual gears. Infinite possibilities.
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
We were told you were old fashioned and out of date if you dont have the latest.
Right now to be in fashion you have to be riding the one X.

So does anyone dare to suggest where the MFG will go now to create the latest must have bike in the way of gearing?
Since you're of the opinion that past gearing advances were simply the result of chasing "fashion," I can't imagine that you actually care what's next. You seem to be more interested in grinding an axe. How tiresome.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
Ummmmmmmm ... 13?
You gotta dream a little bigger, baby; These guys are already up to 24:. Classified "Power Shift"
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It started with the trusty 10 speed...


3-speed, 1902; 2-speed, 1882.





It looks like a gearbox where the bottom bracket would normally be. Is this the new thing?
Since the mid-1890s. Adler in the 1930s was probably the most successful.




Automatic with constant velocity shifting. Smoooooth with no actual gears.


Enviolo Automatiq.

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Other than "more of the same" ie, 13 speed, its hard to see anything new on the horizon. DI2 + Auto shifting ? It might work, if they can manage to make a drive train that would shift smoothly under high load. Tbh, Id much rather have what we already have (DI2, power meters, computers, etc.), available at lower price points to make it accessible to more riders. The continued price hikes seem to achieve the exact opposite.
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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
Since you're of the opinion that past gearing advances were simply the result of chasing "fashion," I can't imagine that you actually care what's next. You seem to be more interested in grinding an axe. How tiresome.
Him and Larry; protecting us all from Big Gravel destroying our old tech and constantly making us buy new bikes.

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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
So does anyone dare to suggest where the MFG will go now to create the latest must-have bike in the way of gearing?
252 gears, 3300% range, commercially available today.

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So you don't have a Stringbike yet?

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CeramicSpeed chainless:

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Originally Posted by Ironfish653 View Post
You gotta dream a little bigger, baby; These guys are already up to 24
Up to 36; here 'just' with 30:

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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
Since you're of the opinion that past gearing advances were simply the result of chasing "fashion," I can't imagine that you actually care what's next. You seem to be more interested in grinding an axe. How tiresome.
Yep. This is at least the THIRD thread the OP has started on the subject. And itís not the first time heís started repetitive themed threads.
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How about a CVT, Continously variable transmission.


https://gizmodo.com/how-a-bike-with-...1791941295/amp
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Originally Posted by rydabent View Post
At 84 I have seen almost all of the latest is gearing we must have according to advertisements. It started with the trusty 10 speed, and then proceeded thru 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, and 12 speeds in the rear, and a triple thrown in at the BB for good measure. We were told you were old fashioned and out of date if you dont have the latest. So we ended up with a 24 or 36 speed bike. Right now to be in fashion you have to be riding the one X.

So does anyone dare to suggest where the MFG will go now to create the latest must have bike in the way of gearing?
You kids get off of my lawn.
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Direct your attention to post #27 in this other recent troller. Optimal gear for hills ? Lower or highest?
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Originally Posted by m.c. View Post
Ive been seeing the pinion gear bikes mentioned on here. It looks like a gearbox where the bottom bracket would normally be. Is this the new thing?
Patented in the 1890s I believe. Way too much friction to ever be anything but "the next big thing, and it always will be."
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653 View Post
You gotta dream a little bigger, baby; These guys are already up to 24:. Classified "Power Shift"
The OP has already run out of fingers and is using his toes - I didnít want to exceed fingers + toes.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653 View Post
Him and Larry; protecting us all from Big Gravel destroying our old tech and constantly making us buy new bikes.

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"Pay no attention to Big Gravel and it's far-reaching and all-consuming implications!"
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I've always thought that someone will develop a breakable belt drive with a single expanding rear cog/sprocket. Something that would resemble a skip tooth as the rear cog/sprocket expands to its largest diameter.

In theory you could have variable gearing or program the steps (cog/sprocket diameter) to suit your riding for that day since some people may not like a sliding ratio.

The most compelling aspect of any new design is cost to weight ratio. Adding complex gear boxes might add too much weight and the use of exotic materials might increase cost beyond the benefit gained.

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The person who's gonna make millions of dollars is the one that invents a bike that will make you lose weight while it's hanging upside down in the garage with under inflated/flat tires.
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Originally Posted by tcs View Post
CeramicSpeed chainless:

https://youtu.be/-9gQ1KRhesM

I still think this is vaporware. I've seen no evidence they can actually shift gears and they've been pitching this for about 4 years now.
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A great philosopher once wrote

You have way too many gears
For all-around riding over a variety of surfaces and terrain, you need eight gears:
.......


Petersen, Grant. Just Ride: A Radically Practical Guide to Riding Your Bike (p. 5). Workman Publishing Company. Kindle Edition.
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