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Are Loud Freehubs a Thing Now?

Old 07-11-22, 11:00 AM
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I don't care for loud freehubs myself. More annoying however, is the owner usually wants to tell me why he likes the noise.............even though I didn't ask about it. Same for the whoosh whoosh of carbon rims. When I hear that sound, I look to the sky searching for a Pterodactyl or some other flying creature that will swoop down and carry me off for dinner. Luckily, they haven't got me yet.
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Old 07-11-22, 11:06 AM
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When I got my Chris King wheel-set (with my custom bike), I asked my builder about it. It was purely based on curiosity. It didn't bother me. I was slightly worried something was wrong, but it wasn't a complaint.

Don't get me wrong. I greatly enjoy complaining about almost everything, including people who get all uptight and self-righteous on the internet. I try to elevate it to an art form. But it takes a peculiar mentality to interpret anyone asking a question as complaining. (It is right up there with complaining about people who ask questions on the internet and dismiss them for not already having found answers on the internet.)
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Old 07-11-22, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
Also as an ex-racer, I would never want to race with a loud freehub. Loud coasting broadcasts to your adversaries you aren't working. Being able to sneak in all the recovery you can muster in a really hard race, especially if you've made the break, can be race saving.
As a wheelsucker, I loved my old Shimano hubs for road racing -- they were virtually silent.
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Old 07-11-22, 11:16 AM
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My 2006 Bianchi came with Fulcrum 5 wheels with the loudest freehub I'd ever heard. 14 years later, the rear rim had developed cracks around all the spoke holes, so I bought a new set Fulcrum 5s which were damn near silent. It was quite a switch.
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Old 07-11-22, 11:49 AM
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Iím so hard of hearing Iím lucky if I can hear any noise my bike makes.

And when I think about it, I kinda do like a noisy free hub or freewheel. I donít know. Maybe it makes me feel more connected with the ride that what wind noise gives me.
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Old 07-11-22, 12:01 PM
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Some are noisy as a byproduct of the design. And most of these were higher end hubs in the past.

I think that has resulted in some perception that loud hubs are high end.

As a result I think some companies are now making hubs intentionally loud.

The cheap formula hubs that came on my Surly Wednesday are insanely loud. Loudest Iíve heard. Louder than CK. My Hopes and i9s are just a whisper in comparison.
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Old 07-11-22, 02:19 PM
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I am not normally over-sensitive to sounds, but there is something about the sound of the Chris King hubs that really bothers me--it's like fingernails on a chalkboard bad. I can't stand riding near someone with those damn things on their bike.

I know that's a weird reaction on my part so I don't get mad at the person. This isn't like putting on the bright strobe on a bike path.

I just can't relate to wanting something like that on my bike, it would drive me nuts.
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Old 07-11-22, 02:25 PM
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Are the "normal" modern hubs going this way too? If I order new Shimano hubs do I have to worry they are going to do this? I saw the GCN tech video today of the new Trek Madone and it does this. I guess its popular, right before he spun the wheel to make the noise he said, "I know this is what you come here for".
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Old 07-11-22, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir View Post
And why?
I don't think there's any rhyme or reason to it, except maybe the freehub design and/or the amount of grease in there. I don't believe that there's any correlation between loudness and performance/quality/anything else - some are simply louder than others. IME, in general Shimano are quieter than Campagnolo. Kings are reputed to be pretty loud. My first Campags (Athena and Chorus) were reasonably loud, I then got a DT Hugi (a very high quality hub) which was very loud. In contrast, my next Campag (on a Zonda wheel set) was the quietest yet, while my son's bike (low-end Shimano) is ghost-like. One of my buddies has a Specialized with some sort of Di2, and his freehub is "angry swarm of hornets dusted with Meth"-loud. You can hear that damn thing hundreds of yards away.
Some are loud, some are not - I wouldn't read anything into it.
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Old 07-11-22, 02:51 PM
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It's a matter of perception, and how it changes over time

in the 6/7/8 'transition' era, freewheels were still common on mid-range bikes. Freewheels click. Shimano, notably with the 6400-series '600' designed their freehubs to be near-silent, so by the noise (or lack thereof) you'd know it was a higher-end cassette wheel. That's the signature of 'good' Shimano road wheels, my 90's RSX, and 5600 105s are nearly silent, and my ~2015 WH-R500 have a wristwatch-like 'tick' on the stand, that's almost imperceptible when underway.

'3rd-party' hubs like King need to stand out from 'factory' wheels, so they've taken the pawl click and doubled down on the noise, the loud clack promising stiff springs and deep pawl engagement; like the loud exhaust note of a 'tuned' car, so you can tell it's the sporty version, and not the base model.

FWIW, all of my MTB hubs (mostly Shimano XT /Deore XT) click, although not 'clack-y' like a King, or 'ping-y' like a freewheel.
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Old 07-11-22, 02:57 PM
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Yes, they are a thing now. Somebody wanted to be different, and now so do half of everybody else.
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Old 07-11-22, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
I tend to like the sound of a loud, high-quality hub. I couldn't tell you exactly what it is, but high-quality sounds better. Mediocre just sounds noisy.

I recently purchased a MTB with an XTR rear bub. Apparently, it includes Shimano's "Scylence" technology would makes it almost completely silent. I find it quite odd.

Me too Eric F

Rolling along hearing the rear hubs just sounds right......................
I prefer the sound :-)
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Old 07-11-22, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir View Post
Are Loud Freehubs a Thing Now? And why?
You are begging the question.

Where they ever not a thing?

Anyway, some manufacturers hubs make noise and others don't. There's no evidence that there is a trend toward noisy hubs being more common.
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Old 07-11-22, 03:06 PM
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It is to punish you for coasting. This is proper.
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Old 07-11-22, 03:16 PM
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Around 4-5 years ago, there was a lady on my marathon training team that was using a metronome app on her phone to run/learn a particular cadence. She'd have it cranked up about as loud as her phone would go. There was around 200 others on that sub team and about 600 other runners on other teams going out along the same route and time. I've never seen a group of runners string out so fast. After 2 or 3 miles, she and her companion would be running by themselves.
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Old 07-11-22, 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
The component companies were losing sales to this product. They had to come up with something more stealthy looking that roadies would buy. Same reason for the move to disc brakes. You can't put a Turbospoke on a disc brake bike.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IiXiADMDMDE
Crap, now I want a pair for the trail...
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Old 07-11-22, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
Some people start threads complaining that their new free hub or freewheel doesn't make noise.

Some people start threads complaining that their new free hub or freewheel makes noise.

I take it you are in the second group. It's all about different manufacturers make them differently and what you were previously use to on your bike.
Some people start threads for no apparent reason.
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Old 07-11-22, 06:57 PM
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If you want a quiet hub... Onyx. Well, the hub is quiet, unfortunately people will still hear the sound of your crying over the cost.
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Old 07-11-22, 09:00 PM
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My 1 year old hub was initially average noise. Now it has become significantly louder from all the long descents just coasting and makes me wonder if it's starting to go bad.

Some people intentionally mod their hubs to make it louder and sound more expensive and then lock it up outside where bike thefts are common. Seriously, why make your bike look and sound expensive only to lock it up outside in a high bike theft area. Not making sense.

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Old 07-11-22, 09:07 PM
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My 1 year old hub was initially average noise. Now it has become significantly louder from all the long descents just coasting and makes me wonder if it's starting to go bad.
Have you lubricated it? Dry pawls will certainly be louder than lubricated ones unless they are not pivoting properly because they are dry. And yes, if you run the pawls dry long enough, they will go bad.
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Old 07-11-22, 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
Have you lubricated it? Dry pawls will certainly be louder than lubricated ones unless they are not pivoting properly because they are dry. And yes, if you run the pawls dry long enough, they will go bad.
It had grease by default but never bothered to open it (I only knew from people opening the same hub in youtube). I'm thinking the grease had thinned on the pawl .

I'm thinking of using wet lube on it but worried the lube would just run out the the seal and mess up the wheel.
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Old 07-11-22, 09:35 PM
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Chris King had a novel idea for a strong hub design. He built it. It was noisy, but he figured he'd straighten that out later. Sales took off. Before he got around to design improvements to make it quiet, customers said they loved the sound.

Hilarity ensued.
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Old 07-11-22, 09:45 PM
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My 80s Campy Chorus can wake the dead. If I need to announce myself to another cyclist or ped, I just coast.

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Old 07-11-22, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by njkayaker View Post
Motorists arenít hearing you noisy hubs. Scooters (with engines) arenít hearing them either.

Given that not all hubs make noise, they arenít reliable indicators of bicycles being present.
Sarcasm and snark seem to miss with you.
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