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New 12 speed Shimano Di2 Rim brake version is NOT wireless!!!

Old 09-04-22, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark View Post
So, it gives you the choice?

That's really cool. I had no idea.
Agreed. There are plenty of great Di2 compatible handlebars, and a wired front end only requires you to use one additional port in the frame the one at the top of the down tube. Another advantage is that you only have to keep track of the charge level on one battery, which is easy since the system comes with Bluetooth and henve gives a battery readout on your computer.
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Old 09-04-22, 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by tempocyclist View Post
Anyone spot the "why" information anywhere?​
Because why would they blow their development money on new brifters hardly anyone wants, when they can restyle the casing on the old one a little and maybe add a tooth to the ratchet?
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Only an idiot would want bluetooth brakes. But hey; new and shiny tech. Somewhere in my post history I said it, I said it; wireless everything on bikes....
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Old 09-09-22, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pashlit View Post
This is my first Di2 set up and I couldn't even imagine in my worst dreams that Shimano will do crap like that. What is the reason behind it? Doesn't make any sense.
I would guess because rim brakes are disappearing from road bikes with every year that goes by. Practically all of the big players are mostly disc now.
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Old 09-09-22, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Jax Rhapsody View Post
Only an idiot would want bluetooth brakes. But hey; new and shiny tech. Somewhere in my post history I said it, I said it; wireless everything on bikes....
Umm, what?

Where did you see anything, any mention, of bluetooth brakes?
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Old 09-09-22, 07:42 AM
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I would be very uncomfortable with wireless brakes. Although it appears Shimano has been looking at the idea.

https://www.vitalmtb.com/features/A-...uspension,3043
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Old 09-09-22, 08:30 AM
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Never really saw the point of a wireless connection vs wires for two things bolted to the same object that sit only 4 feet apart and never move.
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Old 09-09-22, 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
I would guess because rim brakes are disappearing from road bikes with every year that goes by. Practically all of the big players are mostly disc now.
These things look awesome, are very light, have a very nice braking power and are super simple to maintain. No rubbing noise, no nothing. The pads last forever. I am not against disk brakes, I have them on my MTB for God's sake, but I'm against mass media and marketing. Yeah. I know. Corporations are only here for the money. Peopole usually do what they are told to do.

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Originally Posted by pashlit View Post
These things look awesome, are very light, have a very nice braking power and are super simple to maintain. No rubbing noise, no nothing.
Sounds like all seven of my bikes that have disc brakes. 2 of those being road bikes (Trek Domane) 🤷‍♂️
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Old 09-09-22, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by prj71 View Post
Sounds like all seven of my bikes that have disc brakes. 2 of those being road bikes (Trek Domane) 🤷‍♂️
LOL. 7 bikes!!! You ppl are crazy. I only have three and don't have time to ride them all.
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Old 09-09-22, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by pashlit View Post
LOL. 7 bikes!!! You ppl are crazy. I only have three and don't have time to ride them all.
That's 7 between me and the girl.

2 mountain bikes, 2 road bikes, 2 fat bikes and one hybrid bike (Specialized Sirrus X)

One of the mountain bikes (hard tail) is my backup in case something goes wrong with my full suspension mountain bike.
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark View Post

I prefer wired things when possible.
I'm the opposite. I prefer wireless things when possible - and it certainly is possible in this application without any compromise. Shimano just couldn't be arsed.
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LOL. 7 bikes!!! You ppl are crazy. I only have three and don't have time to ride them all.
Having "only" three bikes seems pretty crazy to me.
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Having "only" three bikes seems pretty crazy to me.
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Originally Posted by pashlit View Post
These things look awesome, are very light, have a very nice braking power and are super simple to maintain. No rubbing noise, no nothing. The pads last forever. I am not against disk brakes, I have them on my MTB for God's sake, but I'm against mass media and marketing. Yeah. I know. Corporations are only here for the money. Peopole usually do what they are told to do.

Hate to brake it to you, but people are only here for the money. Otherwise, no one would go to work, buy a bike, or do anything other than hunt and fight.

Corporations are here to put money into the hands of people.
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Old 09-09-22, 12:25 PM
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I'd be a little nervous with wireless brakes in anything. But, electronic brake by wire is already here in cars.
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Old 09-09-22, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Mojo31 View Post
Hate to brake it to you, but people are only here for the money. Otherwise, no one would go to work, buy a bike, or do anything other than hunt and fight.

Corporations are here to put money into the hands of people.
Well... I would probably partially agree and strongly disagree with you. Corporations put money into executives and shareholders hands. They only put a fraction of money (called your salary) into your hands.
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Originally Posted by pashlit View Post
Well... I would probably partially agree and strongly disagree with you. Corporations put money into executives and shareholders hands. They only put a fraction of money (called your salary) into your hands.
Its all money in peoples hands, unless you dont think shareholders are people. Executives are employees as well.

Just remember, if it wasnt for those companies providing jobs, wed all be hunting, gathering, and fighting just to stay alive.
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Iust remember, if it wasn’t for those companies providing jobs, we’d all be hunting, gathering, and fighting just to stay alive.
What do you think we're doing now?

And by the way, people have been surviving, and often thriving, on this planet since long before the corporation became such a dominant institution. You should read some economic history.
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I'd be a little nervous with wireless brakes in anything. But, electronic brake by wire is already here in cars.
And, should there be an electronic or electrical issue, they will default to standard hydraulic braking.
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