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Old 09-09-22, 09:59 PM
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Blue bike Justice

Ok, I admit it. I am a curmudgeon. There's NOTHING wrong with the existence of blue bikes. I actually think their existence is a positive thing.
But I couldn't help but be amused by this smashed one. Even though there's nothing funny about a car jumping the curb and smashing a parked bike.
So, blue bikes (and other bikes rentable bikes parked on city streets) are a positive thing.
however...
I commute often to my job in Boston, from Waltham, a just under 10 mile ride. Don't see many blue bikes until I get close to where I'm going.
My commute takes me partly on roads, and partly on a MUP next to the Charles river. When I get to into the Boston's back bay, I got off and go a half a mile or so down Massachusetts ave (one of the main roads in the area) to my job. There are bike lines on this very busy street...I've been commuting there since 1999, the lanes are from the last few years. I have a bit of ambivilence about them.
Anyway, blue bikes are fine, but there's a certain percentage of those who ride them, maybe 10%, maybe more, who: ride like idiots, and/or thoughtless jerks.
If you want to endanger your own life fine, but when you make me feel less safe....
In fact, on this half mile stretch of road (where I bike, walk and drive a car) I see cyclists doing many, many amazingly stupid and dangerous things. So it's not just blue bikes: it's experienced cyclists (I assume) being reckless and too fast for the environment.
And then: there are all of the other motorized devices I come across. Scooters, skate boards...I don't know what you call the wide board thing with the big roller in the middle. I've never ridden a scooter, powered or not, so maybe I'm wrong, but to me: it looks like the rider is even more vulnerable than a cyclist. I've nearly been plowed into by a number of those damn things. Plus, every once in a while, some joker will join the bike lane on a Vespa, or a motorcycle.
All in all, I was more happy when that stretch of road DIDN'T have bike lanes. Like i said: I am a curmudgeon.

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i am failing to see the justice of a car smashing into a properly/legally parked bike-share bike.
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Blue bikes are the bestest.
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The driver had no animosity towards the Blue Bike. He was merely driving a Tesla, needed a charge, and attempted to hook up to the bike charging station, drive-thru style.

That's his story, and he's sticking to it.
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What's your favorite color? Mine's probably red.
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So......... I'm guessing you don't like share bikes?

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Originally Posted by dkatz1 View Post
Ok, I admit it. I am a curmudgeon. There's NOTHING wrong with the existence of blue bikes. I actually think their existence is a positive thing.
But I couldn't help but be amused by this smashed one. Even though there's nothing funny about a car jumping the curb and smashing a parked bike.
So, blue bikes (and other bikes rentable bikes parked on city streets) are a positive thing.
however...
I commute often to my job in Boston, from Waltham, a just under 10 mile ride. Don't see many blue bikes until I get close to where I'm going.
My commute takes me partly on roads, and partly on a MUP next to the Charles river. When I get to into the Boston's back bay, I got off and go a half a mile or so down Massachusetts ave (one of the main roads in the area) to my job. There are bike lines on this very busy street...I've been commuting there since 1999, the lanes are from the last few years. I have a bit of ambivilence about them.
Anyway, blue bikes are fine, but there's a certain percentage of those who ride them, maybe 10%, maybe more, who: ride like idiots, and/or thoughtless jerks.
If you want to endanger your own life fine, but when you make me feel less safe....
In fact, on this half mile stretch of road (where I bike, walk and drive a car) I see cyclists doing many, many amazingly stupid and dangerous things. So it's not just blue bikes: it's experienced cyclists (I assume) being reckless and too fast for the environment.
And then: there are all of the other motorized devices I come across. Scooters, skate boards...I don't know what you call the wide board thing with the big roller in the middle. I've never ridden a scooter, powered or not, so maybe I'm wrong, but to me: it looks like the rider is even more vulnerable than a cyclist. I've nearly been plowed into by a number of those damn things. Plus, every once in a while, some joker will join the bike lane on a Vespa, or a motorcycle.
All in all, I was more happy when that stretch of road DIDN'T have bike lanes. Like i said: I am a curmudgeon.


When you woke up this morning , did you remember posting this self-negating nonsense?
My only reaction to that picture is hoping the maniac who drove into that was caught and didn't hit any people. You might want to reflect on why that scene causes you to reflect on the safety performance of bicyclists rather than drivers, what you wrote here is a really weird stretch. And the thread title is a real pos.
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Originally Posted by dkatz1 View Post
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Anyway, blue bikes are fine, but there's a certain percentage of those who ride them, maybe 10%, maybe more, who: ride like idiots, and/or thoughtless jerks.

So how do you feel about the 71% who drive like that? Do you feel car-justice when drivers go smashing into each other sometimes taking along with them pedestrians and cyclists who had nothing to do with drivers teaching each other lessons?

"Nearly all Americans (97%) rate themselves as “careful” drivers, but feel that only 29% of fellow drivers merit the description."

viewfinder.expedia.com/news/expedia-2015-road-rage-report-texters-enrage-fellow-drivers-most-edging-tailgaters-and-left-lane-hogs-on-list-of-most-deplorable-driver-behaviors/amp/
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Old 09-10-22, 04:26 PM
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So how do you feel about the 71% who drive like that? Do you feel car-justice when drivers go smashing into each other sometimes taking along with them pedestrians and cyclists who had nothing to do with drivers teaching each other lessons?

"Nearly all Americans (97%) rate themselves as “careful” drivers, but feel that only 29% of fellow drivers merit the description."

viewfinder.expedia.com/news/expedia-2015-road-rage-report-texters-enrage-fellow-drivers-most-edging-tailgaters-and-left-lane-hogs-on-list-of-most-deplorable-driver-behaviors/amp/
I don't like them either. Have did you get that percentage?
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Old 09-10-22, 08:48 PM
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I don't like them either. Have did you get that percentage?
100-29= 71 not careful drivers
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Originally Posted by mschwett View Post
i am failing to see the justice of a car smashing into a properly/legally parked bike-share bike.
Couldn't agree more! Another ******* cager on the phone? Or a drunk? Or just another incompetent morAn behind the wheel.

I've always wondered if drivers' insurance is ever charged for when idiots fly into and damage public infrastructure such as this. (Now don't get me wrong, I'm not naieve enough to think this driver actually STOPPED and reported the wreck to the authorities! Hit-N-Run most certainly.) But for when the lunatics are identified and it's learned that they'are actually licensed, registered and insured drivers, do they have to pay the cost to fix smashed guard rails, bus stops, light poles, telephone poles and the like?

Highly doubt it.
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Originally Posted by LV2TNDM View Post
Couldn't agree more! Another ******* cager on the phone? Or a drunk? Or just another incompetent morAn behind the wheel.

I've always wondered if drivers' insurance is ever charged for when idiots fly into and damage public infrastructure such as this. (Now don't get me wrong, I'm not naieve enough to think this driver actually STOPPED and reported the wreck to the authorities! Hit-N-Run most certainly.) But for when the lunatics are identified and it's learned that they'are actually licensed, registered and insured drivers, do they have to pay the cost to fix smashed guard rails, bus stops, light poles, telephone poles and the like?

Highly doubt it.
Most government entities, if they have the offenders information, will file a claim for reimbursement. Particularly if it is a high cost or labor item like a fire hydrant, traffic signal, or power pole. Your basic "no parking", speed limit etc sign isn't worth the administrative cost.
But, reality is, at least around here, that often the vehicle is stolen or the driver is uninsured. Can't get blood from a rock.
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Originally Posted by LV2TNDM View Post
Couldn't agree more! Another ******* cager on the phone? Or a drunk? Or just another incompetent morAn behind the wheel.

I've always wondered if drivers' insurance is ever charged for when idiots fly into and damage public infrastructure such as this. (Now don't get me wrong, I'm not naieve enough to think this driver actually STOPPED and reported the wreck to the authorities! Hit-N-Run most certainly.) But for when the lunatics are identified and it's learned that they'are actually licensed, registered and insured drivers, do they have to pay the cost to fix smashed guard rails, bus stops, light poles, telephone poles and the like?

Highly doubt it.
They do, at least when I worked for a municipality. We had one accident where a driver took out a 'Stop' sign and a 'No Parking Between XX & XX Hours' sign. She got billed for the replacement of both, and that include the cost of labor to dig out the old signposts and install new ones. The posts are usually made of square bar stock with holes drilled in them (for bolts) for east replacement, but the old posts were too badly damaged all the way to the ground level to cut off the old metal posts and simply attach new ones with a spliced so they had to be fully replaced.
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100-29= 71 not careful drivers
A classic garbage in/garbage out statistic.

How do you know that this number is the right one? 97% said they're careful, so that leaves 3%. How do you decide which of those numbers are accurate? Spoiler alert--these impressions are meaningless.

BTW, that bs survey appears to have been taken down, your link is busted.

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Hmmm, seems like tongue-in-cheek posts are not appreciated by 33% of people replying (not considering off-topic posts or posts replying to other replies).
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I'd have been more amused if the bikes were red, or green, or whatever but still called "Blue Bikes". Which raises a different question: Is blue a universal color for bike-share bikes?

Ours here in Chicago are blue also, albeit a different shade.

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Hmmm, seems like tongue-in-cheek posts are not appreciated by 33% of people replying (not considering off-topic posts or posts replying to other replies).
When it comes to statistics, 33% of people will comment, while the other 82% can't be bothered with math.
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Anyway, blue bikes are fine, but there's a certain percentage of those who ride them, maybe 10%, maybe more, who: ride like idiots, and/or thoughtless jerks.

I have a blue bike and I am an idiot, and/or thoughtless jerk. BUT, I don't ride like one.
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I rather like bikeshare bikes (traditional non-motorized) in certain situations (well, at least the convenience of the programs…maybe the bikes leave a lot to be desired. But at least they’re “any port in a storm” rideable.) When I’m traveling and don’t have the opportunity or convenience to ride a more suitable bike…I’ll get one if they’re available. I’ve received some interesting comments while riding them: “Wow! I’ve never seen one of those bikes so far away from the city.” And “Where did you rent that eBike from? (me) It’s not an eBike. Damn! How’d you make it go so fast?



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When it comes to statistics, 33% of people will comment, while the other 82% can't be bothered with math.
I think I fall in that 15% category. I sometimes make my comment but can't or won't get engaged in long drawnout futile distracted discussions.
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Are those Blue Bikes bike share bikes or do you have to rent them?
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Originally Posted by noimagination View Post
Hmmm, seems like tongue-in-cheek posts are not appreciated by 33% of people replying (not considering off-topic posts or posts replying to other replies).

The difference is the off-topic posts and some of the replies are actually funny. The original post, on the other hand, is not. And yeah, suggesting that smashing a bike and charging station with a motor vehicle is somehow "justice" pisses me off.
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Originally Posted by GeezyRider View Post

I have a blue bike and I am an idiot, and/or thoughtless jerk. BUT, I don't ride like one.
I feel certain that you know I was NOT talking about bikes painted blue, and that you're just funning' with me.
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Originally Posted by Milton Keynes View Post
Are those Blue Bikes bike share bikes or do you have to rent them?
https://www.bluebikes.com/

It's really an impressive system that gets used a lot and covers several cities in the Boston area. Part of the reason the thread pissed me off is I see a lot of people using this for transportation.
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