It is okay to walk up steep hills
#26
Version 3.0
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: SoCal
Posts: 12,944
Bikes: Too Many
Mentioned: 296 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1208 Post(s)
Liked 2,069 Times
in
1,211 Posts
It is okay to walk downhill. 2018 in Tahiti, I was on a route climbing a grade and hit a section that was covered in a thin layer of mud. I did not want to walk in the mud so I slithered up. When I go to the top, there was mud on the downhill side. I walked down the hill in the mud until there was rideable pavement.
Likes For Hermes:
#27
Cheerfully low end
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 1,827
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 592 Post(s)
Liked 957 Times
in
609 Posts
Riding only single speed for a couple years cured me of any issues about walking or jogging up very steep hills, but it ruined my patience for slow climbs in the saddle in low gears. Now I rarely shift below 60 gear inches unless it’s one of those annoying 25% gravel grades.
Otto
Otto
Likes For ofajen:
#28
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Portland, OR
Posts: 12,224
Bikes: (2) ti TiCycles, 2007 w/ triple and 2011 fixed, 1979 Peter Mooney, ~1983 Trek 420 now fixed and ~1973 Raleigh Carlton Competition gravel grinder
Mentioned: 121 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4354 Post(s)
Liked 3,419 Times
in
2,215 Posts
I look at really steep hills as full body exercise. Out of the saddle, hands on hoods, one or two fingers over the levers (or in the drops with headwinds), shoes and cleats that do not slip! (and toestraps pulled tight on my fix gears) and I push/pull for all I'm worth at whatever RPM my breathing can sustain. The trick is to have the upper body strength to do this. Also, watch your breathing. Slow down before it gets too hard. And - doing this gives you that strength that never comes when you worship the high RPMs of "doing it right".
I'm getting older and it's getting harder. I did not do enough riding last winter and spring, tried to do the hard fix gear climbs in early summer, pulled muscles in my quads and had to do the balancing act of nursing them and riding enough to be able to ride Cycle Oregon last month for a very hilly week. Made it through Cycle Oregon with minor muscle pulls throughout my body. Wake up call! Gotta be more serious over those early months.
But - I am most alive when I do those hard climbs! And love it when I am strong enough to "loaf" up hills in ridiculously high gears. (I'm now to old to do this again but in my late 50s, I could loaf up Portland's German Town Road from the river side on a 28# fix gear commuter in a 44-17. The joke? I was "loafing" with every strand of muscle in the chain between each foot and its corresponding hand on the two very steep switchbacks. (Oh, those core muscles workouts so necessary for both good health and good cycling posture? Do these climbs and your core will be hard as nails. Fully part of the "chain".
Yes, I've stayed skinny. But it's not because I cannot gain weight or its not an issue. I stay skinny because those climbs are what I live for. (And I heard that quiet little voice that's always right when I was 19 that said I was never to weigh more than 160 pounds. Mid '20s I raced at 145. 69 now and losing muscle mass. Down to 141.)
My geared bikes all have triples. 50-38-24 X 12-23 to 28, 52-42-24 X 13-16 and 52-42-30 X 13-26. City fix gear is (still) 44-17 (that I should lower to a 42). I change ratios as needed on my other two but many of my rides I run simply 42 X 16,17 or 17,18 so all the local hills get climbed in whichever cog I'm on. Now, the big hill/mountain rides I can and do go as low as 42-24 one the fix geare of my avatar photo or 36-24 on my Mooney (if I bring my chainwhip, 36-21 if I don't). The triples get used. The second bike is my geared commuter and farmers market bike. I ride it over 500' loaded coming home using near all the low ones. The last bike of the three is a straight race bike with a Chorus triple. For the very real hills of Portland's west hills and the Chehelems, a 30-26 is NOT low! (Except compared to my fix gears.)
Final climb of Cycle Oregon was 2400' in 10 miles. Did it on the 36-21. Mile after mile of push-pull. Body tired to the bone after. But what an experience! I won't do it again. But do I regret it? Not one bit! (And funny - I got passed by a young lady on an electric bike in the final mile or so. She'd heard me say that I was tired to the bone after the lay day long ride (not directed toward her - just my reality) as she shared that she was working hard too. But after that last day, she heard me say that "to the bone" piece again and said very humbly that she had no idea how hard that climb was for others.)
I write this not as a boast but in the hopes that maybe my love of hard climbs will rub off and perhaps inspire someone. I feel selfish that I get to have and do this and others don't.
I'm getting older and it's getting harder. I did not do enough riding last winter and spring, tried to do the hard fix gear climbs in early summer, pulled muscles in my quads and had to do the balancing act of nursing them and riding enough to be able to ride Cycle Oregon last month for a very hilly week. Made it through Cycle Oregon with minor muscle pulls throughout my body. Wake up call! Gotta be more serious over those early months.
But - I am most alive when I do those hard climbs! And love it when I am strong enough to "loaf" up hills in ridiculously high gears. (I'm now to old to do this again but in my late 50s, I could loaf up Portland's German Town Road from the river side on a 28# fix gear commuter in a 44-17. The joke? I was "loafing" with every strand of muscle in the chain between each foot and its corresponding hand on the two very steep switchbacks. (Oh, those core muscles workouts so necessary for both good health and good cycling posture? Do these climbs and your core will be hard as nails. Fully part of the "chain".
Yes, I've stayed skinny. But it's not because I cannot gain weight or its not an issue. I stay skinny because those climbs are what I live for. (And I heard that quiet little voice that's always right when I was 19 that said I was never to weigh more than 160 pounds. Mid '20s I raced at 145. 69 now and losing muscle mass. Down to 141.)
My geared bikes all have triples. 50-38-24 X 12-23 to 28, 52-42-24 X 13-16 and 52-42-30 X 13-26. City fix gear is (still) 44-17 (that I should lower to a 42). I change ratios as needed on my other two but many of my rides I run simply 42 X 16,17 or 17,18 so all the local hills get climbed in whichever cog I'm on. Now, the big hill/mountain rides I can and do go as low as 42-24 one the fix geare of my avatar photo or 36-24 on my Mooney (if I bring my chainwhip, 36-21 if I don't). The triples get used. The second bike is my geared commuter and farmers market bike. I ride it over 500' loaded coming home using near all the low ones. The last bike of the three is a straight race bike with a Chorus triple. For the very real hills of Portland's west hills and the Chehelems, a 30-26 is NOT low! (Except compared to my fix gears.)
Final climb of Cycle Oregon was 2400' in 10 miles. Did it on the 36-21. Mile after mile of push-pull. Body tired to the bone after. But what an experience! I won't do it again. But do I regret it? Not one bit! (And funny - I got passed by a young lady on an electric bike in the final mile or so. She'd heard me say that I was tired to the bone after the lay day long ride (not directed toward her - just my reality) as she shared that she was working hard too. But after that last day, she heard me say that "to the bone" piece again and said very humbly that she had no idea how hard that climb was for others.)
I write this not as a boast but in the hopes that maybe my love of hard climbs will rub off and perhaps inspire someone. I feel selfish that I get to have and do this and others don't.
#29
I'm good to go!
Join Date: Jul 2017
Location: Mississippi
Posts: 13,814
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
Mentioned: 46 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5639 Post(s)
Liked 4,314 Times
in
2,966 Posts
I'm okay if you have to walk some over the place where a hill suddenly pitches very steep. Though if this is a route you do regularly, then you might consider if you have the correct range of gearing on your bike. Or if you even have the correct bike.
But if I see you walking and I'm still riding, then really you are just making me feel better about myself! You don't really want to do that do you? <grin>
But if I see you walking and I'm still riding, then really you are just making me feel better about myself! You don't really want to do that do you? <grin>
#30
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,195
Bikes: Colnago, Van Dessel, Factor, Cervelo, Ritchey
Mentioned: 5 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3435 Post(s)
Liked 6,226 Times
in
2,517 Posts
It is okay to walk up steep hills
Everybody knows it's okay to walk your bike up a steep hill. The real question is: can I eat my salad after my entree?
Everybody knows it's okay to walk your bike up a steep hill. The real question is: can I eat my salad after my entree?
Likes For tomato coupe:
#31
Grupetto Bob
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 5,011
Bikes: Bikey McBike Face
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2018 Post(s)
Liked 4,080 Times
in
2,210 Posts
Yes I have to confess that I try to keep my weight down too to make climbing easier. If I wasn’t such a masochist about climbing I wouldn’t bother.
There is a local early spring ride here called Bainbridge Island where thousands of people get together and ride together. There are a few hills where people get off and push their bikes up. My attitude is it is great to see people attempting a very hilly route to begin with so good on them.
There is a local early spring ride here called Bainbridge Island where thousands of people get together and ride together. There are a few hills where people get off and push their bikes up. My attitude is it is great to see people attempting a very hilly route to begin with so good on them.
__________________
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Last edited by rsbob; 10-12-22 at 10:56 AM.
Likes For rsbob:
#32
ignominious poltroon
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 3,443
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1927 Post(s)
Liked 2,882 Times
in
1,530 Posts
I actually kind of suck (probably because I'm nearly 200 lbs). I also have really low gearing, or I could not do it (46/30T crank and 11-34T cassette or 11-36T depending on wheelset). Also, I am really slow.

Also, please note the 2.8 mph.
I also have a lot of trouble going downhill fast.
I have also had to walk downhills that others seem to be able to ride without issue.

Also, please note the 2.8 mph.
I have only surrendered to two hills and walked. One was at the end of a very long ride on a 90 degree day with a 12% climb and I was past exhausted. The other was on the one I mentioned before since I was out of air and my legs were on fire. It’s a matter of personal pride that I don’t walk any climb so I don’t have to wear that cone of shame.
I have also had to walk downhills that others seem to be able to ride without issue.
Last edited by Polaris OBark; 10-12-22 at 01:48 PM.
#33
ignominious poltroon
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 3,443
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1927 Post(s)
Liked 2,882 Times
in
1,530 Posts
I also seem to have used the word "also" much more often than the Bike Forum Literary Style Guide would permit.
Likes For Polaris OBark:
#34
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8183 Post(s)
Liked 9,080 Times
in
5,048 Posts
Likes For livedarklions:
#35
ignominious poltroon
Join Date: Jan 2022
Posts: 3,443
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1927 Post(s)
Liked 2,882 Times
in
1,530 Posts
For reals?
#36
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8183 Post(s)
Liked 9,080 Times
in
5,048 Posts
Likes For livedarklions:
#37
meh
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Hopkins, MN
Posts: 4,689
Bikes: 21 CoMotion Java; 21 Bianchi Infinito; 17 Breezer Radar Pro; 15 Surly Pugsley; 13 Felt Z85; 11 Globe Daily; 09 Kona Dew Drop; 96 Mondonico
Mentioned: 22 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1106 Post(s)
Liked 986 Times
in
509 Posts
It is okay to walk up steep hills... but I am an idiot and I'll grind up, just barely faster than the folks walking.
Here's a clip from last Saturday's Filthy 50, 44 miles into the ride with a climb that kicks up to 15% ... and for reference, we are mashing up a tandem in this clip.
Here's a clip from last Saturday's Filthy 50, 44 miles into the ride with a climb that kicks up to 15% ... and for reference, we are mashing up a tandem in this clip.
#38
Grupetto Bob
Join Date: Sep 2020
Location: Seattle-ish
Posts: 5,011
Bikes: Bikey McBike Face
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 2018 Post(s)
Liked 4,080 Times
in
2,210 Posts
Funny. Reminds me when in my 20s I was a pretty good long distance runner, I past a cyclist going up a 3 mile grade. Took me two miles to catch her.
__________________
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Road 🚴🏾♂️ & Mountain 🚵🏾♂️
Likes For rsbob:
#39
The Wheezing Geezer
Join Date: Oct 2021
Location: Española, NM
Posts: 800
Bikes: 1976 Fredo Speciale, Jamis Citizen 1, Ellis-Briggs FAVORI, Rivendell Clem Smith Jr.
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 322 Post(s)
Liked 671 Times
in
322 Posts
I hope it's okay.
I don't want to get a ticket!
I don't want to get a ticket!
Likes For Fredo76:
#41
Senior Member
Join Date: Jan 2020
Location: San Jose
Posts: 976
Bikes: Blur / Ibis Hakka MX / team machince alr2
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 404 Post(s)
Liked 262 Times
in
190 Posts
I was on my light weight Blur MTB with only a single water bottle. So I don't have the I was carrying 20lbs backpack excuse. I was avg 3.6mph and I was trying. ha-ha I saw a jogger way behind me. He started getting closer and closer. oh shoooot.... He didn't pass me because I had such a huge lead but he was definitely going faster than me.

Likes For sean.hwy:
Likes For Bald Paul:
#43
Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Long Island, NY
Posts: 1,993
Bikes: Trek 800 x 2, Schwinn Heavy Duti, Schwinn Traveler, Schwinn Le Tour Luxe, Schwinn Continental, Cannondale M400 and Lambert, Schwinn Super Sport
Mentioned: 11 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 760 Post(s)
Liked 902 Times
in
603 Posts
Is is ok to walk up steep hills? Yes. This is like your low-low gear. There are some places that are too sandy or with too much loose gravel to ride as well were walking is better.
Being in full kit with cleats or cycling shoes means that you have to have a higher threshold of when to dismount. For the rest of us with shorts and a t-shirt, we can walk at a lower incline and not be shamed. And if you have a basket on the front carrying beer, walking both up and down hills is acceptable.
Being in full kit with cleats or cycling shoes means that you have to have a higher threshold of when to dismount. For the rest of us with shorts and a t-shirt, we can walk at a lower incline and not be shamed. And if you have a basket on the front carrying beer, walking both up and down hills is acceptable.
#44
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 23,621
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7194 Post(s)
Liked 7,459 Times
in
3,765 Posts
Likes For big john:
#45
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 23,621
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7194 Post(s)
Liked 7,459 Times
in
3,765 Posts
I walked this part.

Likes For big john:
#46
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8183 Post(s)
Liked 9,080 Times
in
5,048 Posts
Is is ok to walk up steep hills? Yes. This is like your low-low gear. There are some places that are too sandy or with too much loose gravel to ride as well were walking is better.
Being in full kit with cleats or cycling shoes means that you have to have a higher threshold of when to dismount. For the rest of us with shorts and a t-shirt, we can walk at a lower incline and not be shamed. And if you have a basket on the front carrying beer, walking both up and down hills is acceptable.
Being in full kit with cleats or cycling shoes means that you have to have a higher threshold of when to dismount. For the rest of us with shorts and a t-shirt, we can walk at a lower incline and not be shamed. And if you have a basket on the front carrying beer, walking both up and down hills is acceptable.
#47
Tragically Ignorant
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: New England
Posts: 15,613
Bikes: Serotta Atlanta; 1994 Specialized Allez Pro; Giant OCR A1; SOMA Double Cross Disc; 2022 Allez Elite mit der SRAM
Mentioned: 62 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8183 Post(s)
Liked 9,080 Times
in
5,048 Posts
#48
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 23,621
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7194 Post(s)
Liked 7,459 Times
in
3,765 Posts
#50
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: In the foothills of Los Angeles County
Posts: 23,621
Mentioned: 8 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 7194 Post(s)
Liked 7,459 Times
in
3,765 Posts