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Ethan Mark 10-16-22 11:30 PM

Bike Questions - Handlebar Types
 

Why do some bikes have drop bars and some have flat bars?


tempocyclist 10-17-22 12:35 AM

This should be good...

:popcorn

05 fuji 10-17-22 04:00 AM

This should be closed.

RH Clark 10-17-22 05:21 AM

Because sometimes you feel like a nut, and sometimes you don't.

Moe Zhoost 10-17-22 06:53 AM

Sorta like some people may be at bars and some may be behind them.

Non-frivolous answer: Drop bars allow a more aerodynamic position that helps a rider go faster with better power efficiency. Flat bars are more comfortable for most riders and also give better control in rough terrain.

Welcome to BikeForums. I hope you stick around.

livedarklions 10-17-22 07:53 AM

I don't get the hostility to asking a very basic question.

That said, Moe Zhoost 's non-frivolous answer is pretty good, but I think it misses something. Bikes that are used for very long distances on roads also tend to be equipped with drop bars, and this is at least in part due to comfort. The "riding the hoods" hand position, where the hands rest on the on the rubbery bit of the brake levers, is for most people easier to maintain for hours on end than is the hand position on flat bars. When you ride the hoods, your hands are really pretty much oriented in the same position as they'd be on a steering wheel, thumbs on top, bar grasped with your fingers. You can also grasp the hooks of the drop bars for a different hand position if your hands are getting tired of the same position. On the flat bar, there really is only one hand position, and it's basically got your wrists in the same position as if you were typing, I used to ride long distances on flat bars, but I found as I got tied, I'd lean on my hands more and more, eventually tiring my wrists and hands.

Besides these basic types, there's a number of variants that allow multiple hand positions on basically a flat design. There's also bar ends. You might want to try google for some examples.

mstateglfr 10-17-22 09:41 AM


Originally Posted by Ethan Mark (Post 22681786)

Why do some bikes have drop bars and some have flat bars?


Because some people fine one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs.

Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?

Options are great and allow for more participation.

livedarklions 10-17-22 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by epochers (Post 22682221)
Flat for comfort and drop for speed is one liner response


Not quite. Most touring bikes have drop bars, and it's not because of speed.

livedarklions 10-17-22 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22682175)
Because some people fine one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs.

Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?

Options are great and allow for more participation.

All those questions have better answers than "some people want this and some people want that."

Isn't a better reading of the question "why do people favor drop bars or flat bars?"

mstateglfr 10-17-22 12:22 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22682388)
All those questions have better answers than "some people want this and some people want that."
Isn't a better reading of the question "why do people favor drop bars or flat bars?"

It all comes down to horses for courses. Thats just a fancier way of saying 'some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs'.

Flat bars and drop bars exist because options give a user a chance to use the best setup for their specific needs/situation. Same goes for multiple lofts on a driver, various tread on running shoes, etc.

As for reading the OP's question differently, go ahead if you like. I read it how its worded. 90% sure it isnt a genuine question so I really didnt plan to think about the thread beyond my initial honest and genuine response.

Maelochs 10-17-22 12:23 PM

Why do some bikes have flat tires and some don't?

livedarklions 10-17-22 12:41 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22682394)
It all comes down to horses for courses. Thats just a fancier way of saying 'some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs'.

Flat bars and drop bars exist because options give a user a chance to use the best setup for their specific needs/situation. Same goes for multiple lofts on a driver, various tread on running shoes, etc.

As for reading the OP's question differently, go ahead if you like. I read it how its worded. 90% sure it isnt a genuine question so I really didnt plan to think about the thread beyond my initial honest and genuine response.


So basically you choose to read it as a stupid question that will yield no interesting answer rather than try to talk about why these bars are useful for different things?

"Why is this horse better suited for this course?" is actually a useful question, what's wrong with assuming that the OP actually wanted an answer more useful than "some because people want this and some people want that"?

Hell, somebody on this thread must regularly ride both kinds of bars. What a great opportunity for a "compare and contrast". Also, great case for N+1.

prj71 10-17-22 12:47 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22682424)
So basically you choose to read it as a stupid question that will yield no interesting answer rather than try to talk about why these bars are useful for different things?

Yes.

The OPs question, if even genuine, could be found on a google search.

mstateglfr 10-17-22 12:49 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22682424)
So basically you choose to read it as a stupid question that will yield no interesting answer rather than try to talk about why these bars are useful for different things?

"Why is this horse better suited for this course?" is actually a useful question, what's wrong with assuming that the OP actually wanted an answer more useful than "some because people want this and some people want that"?

Hell, somebody on this thread must regularly ride both kinds of bars. What a great opportunity for a "compare and contrast". Also, great case for N+1.

My gosh someone is looking to argue. I answered the question and provided context, just like you seem to really want me to do.
I said there are flat and drops because people often find one more comfortable than the other and because some find one style better suited for their needs(MTB vs Road, commuter vs road, flexibility limitations, etc).

I did not say anything close to 'because some want this and some want that'.

It is unfortunate that you find my response and subsequent answers to be lacking. You clearly want an in depth compare and contrast post to take place so go right ahead and post one(beyond what you already posted on the topic). Instead you are apparently focusing on how you find my responses to be lacking and why I need to do better.
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70sSanO 10-17-22 12:54 PM

Generally speaking, as some bikes age it becomes more difficult to maintain upright bars over an extended period of time.

Sometimes it happens in stages and the bars start looking like moustache bars. But as time goes on they go completely to drop bars.

John

livedarklions 10-17-22 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22682175)
Because some people fine one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs.

Why do basketball shoes come in high top and low top?
Why do golf drivers come in various degrees of loft?
Why do running shoes come with different types of tread?

Options are great and allow for more participation.


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22682439)
I said there are flat and drops because people often find one more comfortable than the other and because some find one style better suited for their needs(MTB vs Road, commuter vs road, flexibility limitations, etc).

I did not say anything close to 'because some want this and some want that'.


You lie like a rug. Your whole answer boiled down to "people like options". Literally the only interpretation as to why you included those three completely irrelevant questions. Frankly, the condescension was snarky, and I don't think OP deserved snark.

I'm not asking you to do anything other than not being a schmuck to a newbie.

livedarklions 10-17-22 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by 70sSanO (Post 22682450)
Generally speaking, as some bikes age it becomes more difficult to maintain upright bars over an extended period of time.

Sometimes it happens in stages and the bars start looking like moustache bars. But as time goes on they go completely to drop bars.

John


I add some Bikeagra to the chain lube.

mstateglfr 10-17-22 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22682463)
You lie like a rug. Your whole answer boiled down to "people like options". Literally the only interpretation as to why you included those three completely irrelevant questions. Frankly, the condescension was snarky, and I don't think OP deserved snark.

I'm not asking you to do anything other than not being a schmuck to a newbie.

Like I said, someone is looking to argue.


"Because some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs."
is not at all the same as
"people like options"


I did say options are great because they allow for more participation...because that is true. I had already posted that comfort is a reason for both bar styles and one's specific cycling needs is a reason for both bar styles. Options allow for that to happen. Options allow for someone to have an upright commuter or to ride an MTB comfortably.
Its unfortunate you are hung up on this, but I encourage you to try to move past what you perceive my comments to mean and accept what I have said they mean since, you know, I said them.

It also was not condescending, was not snarky, and I dont think I was being a shmuck. It was a genuine response from me- I decided to post a genuine response instead of a popcorn emoji or some flippant answer since there had already been a few of those and I though this very well could be a genuine question. So I answered it...accurately. The reason there are flat and drop bars really is to help make cycling more comfortable and because the bar styles are best suited for different applications therefore a cyclists needs vary depending on use. Its too bad you dont like that answer, but its correct.


Now why dont you waste an equal amount of time policing all of these thread responses which are clearly unhelpful?

This should be closed.

Because sometimes you feel like a nut, and sometimes you don't.

Why do some bikes have flat tires and some don't?

The OPs question, if even genuine, could be found on a google search.

Go tilt at more windmills.

70sSanO 10-17-22 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22682464)
I add some Bikeagra to the chain lube.

That’s a good idea. I wasn’t able to fit my bike into a bathtub.

John

70sSanO 10-17-22 01:49 PM

As far as to whether the OP’s question is legitimate, I would think the term “drop bars” is not in a typical non cyclist’s vocabulary. I’m not sure my wife, who has ridden drop bars for years would use that phrase. She might call them racing handlebars, I’m not sure.

I’m only guessing, but the phrase may have been found researching on Google. That leads me to think the answer was already pretty easily found online. Most likely just as easy as finding a link to Bike Forums to post the question.

John

indyfabz 10-17-22 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22682464)
I add some Bikeagra to the chain lube.

Doesn’t that cause stiff links?

See what I did there?

Eds0123 10-17-22 05:53 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22682488)
Like I said, someone is looking to argue.


"Because some people find one style more comfortable and/or better suited for their needs."
is not at all the same as
"people like options"


I did say options are great because they allow for more participation...because that is true. I had already posted that comfort is a reason for both bar styles and one's specific cycling needs is a reason for both bar styles. Options allow for that to happen. Options allow for someone to have an upright commuter or to ride an MTB comfortably.
Its unfortunate you are hung up on this, but I encourage you to try to move past what you perceive my comments to mean and accept what I have said they mean since, you know, I said them.

It also was not condescending, was not snarky, and I dont think I was being a shmuck. It was a genuine response from me- I decided to post a genuine response instead of a popcorn emoji or some flippant answer since there had already been a few of those and I though this very well could be a genuine question. So I answered it...accurately. The reason there are flat and drop bars really is to help make cycling more comfortable and because the bar styles are best suited for different applications therefore a cyclists needs vary depending on use. Its too bad you dont like that answer, but its correct.


Now why dont you waste an equal amount of time policing all of these thread responses which are clearly unhelpful?







Go tilt at more windmills.

why the OP is typing in bold? to get more attention?

blue192 10-17-22 08:38 PM


Originally Posted by 05 fuji (Post 22681922)
This should be closed.

Do not worry this thread will soon go off the rails and will get closed. In the meantime just enjoy the show plus eat popcorn. xD

mstateglfr 10-17-22 08:53 PM


Originally Posted by Eds0123 (Post 22682810)
why the OP is typing in bold? to get more attention?

The bold text isn't the OP's wording.

tempocyclist 10-17-22 09:14 PM


Originally Posted by Maelochs (Post 22682396)
Why do some bikes have flat tires and some don't?

Tubeless... 😉 😂


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