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Old 11-19-22, 11:02 PM
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I saw this before it came out. Nicely made. Did not want to wait so I made one to support my current bag to keep it from flopping down. Mine is not as versatile but does the job.
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Old 11-20-22, 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by biker128pedal View Post
I saw this before it came out. Nicely made. Did not want to wait so I made one to support my current bag to keep it from flopping down. Mine is not as versatile but does the job.
The randonneur world is full of bag supports, famously Nitto’s F16, so yeah, waiting for Jack, which is probably overkill in that role anyway, would have been wasted time, particularly given the COVID impact.
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Old 11-21-22, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
I know I'm kind of hammering on the OP here, but he does have a long history of threads about his latest overly-complicated acquisitions, and about the modifications and other hassles he goes through in order to get them into workable states. This one is particularly memorable.
I remember that now. Especially the part about the trials and tribulations of extracting a wallet from a jersey pocket.
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Is anyone familiar with the Bertrand Russell quote, “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand”??

Call it “translation error,” but it seems to happen a lot in the cycling world, especially because it’s such a nuanced and individualized activity, and we each have very distinct experiences doing it.

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Old 11-21-22, 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
Is anyone familiar with the Bertrand Russell quote, “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand”??
This post is sooo on-brand for you. Kudos!
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Old 11-21-22, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
This post is sooo on-brand for you. Kudos!
Wonder if he pulled that quote out of his jersey pocket.
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Old 11-21-22, 11:09 AM
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Meh. If the fork has eyelets, what about a regular rack and some quick release pins?
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Old 11-21-22, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
Meh. If the fork has eyelets, what about a regular rack and some quick release pins?
Something like this.

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Old 11-21-22, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
Is anyone familiar with the Bertrand Russell quote, “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand”??

Call it “translation error,” but it seems to happen a lot in the cycling world, especially because it’s such a nuanced and individualized activity, and we each have very distinct experiences doing it.
I can confidently say I am not familiar with that quote. Is it a famous quote?
Are you one of those people who actually has dozens of quotes memorized and uses them in regular conversation? Or are you once of those people who googles for quotes before posting one on message boards?
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Old 11-21-22, 12:28 PM
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Are we really discussing racks being stolen? I am generally more concerned about the items placed on the rack than I am the rack itself.
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Old 11-21-22, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr View Post
I can confidently say I am not familiar with that quote. Is it a famous quote?
Are you one of those people who actually has dozens of quotes memorized and uses them in regular conversation? Or are you once of those people who googles for quotes before posting one on message boards?
I had to look the guy up. I'll admit, I haven't stayed in a Holiday Inn Express lately. My kids did name one of our cats Kirchhoff, though. There's that.
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Old 11-21-22, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by phughes View Post
Are we really discussing racks being stolen? I am generally more concerned about the items placed on the rack than I am the rack itself.
I have had $460 worth of racks (current replacement value) attached to my bike continuously (except when removed for boxing) for years. And I lock my bike outside in the big city. As long as your racks are not easily removeable (e.g., you can't get them off quickly without tools) and you don't do something stupid, like leave your bike out overnight, I think your racks are safe. Even if you were to leave your bike out overnight, I think the chances of racks going missing are pretty slim.

Cue the "There is a thief lurking behind every lamppost to seat anything" crowd.
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Old 11-21-22, 01:18 PM
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I think the more important questions are:

Anyone eaten at a Jack In The Box lately?
Anyone ever traveled to the land of Misfit toys? (It's nearly Christmas time)
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Old 11-21-22, 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
I have had $460 worth of racks (current replacement value) attached to my bike continuously (except when removed for boxing) for years. And I lock my bike outside in the big city. As long as your racks are not easily removeable (e.g., you can't get them off quickly without tools) and you don't do something stupid, like leave your bike out overnight, I think your racks are safe. Even if you were to leave your bike out overnight, I think the chances of racks going missing are pretty slim.

Cue the "There is a thief lurking behind every lamppost to seat anything" crowd.
Your racks are long gone, I replaced them with a 1:1 scale picture of your racks on the bike. I look surprisingly like a lamppost...LOLOLOL

If I were a thief I wouldn't go after the racks I want the whole damn bike I can get the rack and so much more. I have never really worried about racks when locking up and like Indy I wouldn't keep my bike out overnight but if I did they would if the bike was still there probably still be on the bike. Wheels maybe gone if not locked up properly lights probably yeah but a bolt on rack I doubt anyone would steal. As a commuter and touring cyclist I find racks really handy but I don't see them as high value items for thieves because they require work to get off and are probably not going to sell for as much. Maybe I am wrong but I just don't feel like they are a wanted item for thieves.
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Old 11-21-22, 04:33 PM
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Your racks are long gone, I replaced them with a 1:1 scale picture of your racks on the bike. I look surprisingly like a lamppost...LOLOLOL

If I were a thief I wouldn't go after the racks I want the whole damn bike I can get the rack and so much more. I have never really worried about racks when locking up and like Indy I wouldn't keep my bike out overnight but if I did they would if the bike was still there probably still be on the bike. Wheels maybe gone if not locked up properly lights probably yeah but a bolt on rack I doubt anyone would steal. As a commuter and touring cyclist I find racks really handy but I don't see them as high value items for thieves because they require work to get off and are probably not going to sell for as much. Maybe I am wrong but I just don't feel like they are a wanted item for thieves.
As noted, I agree. An exception might be a bike that is left out for a while and eventually stripped for recycling money.

Sadly, back in 2010 I had my custom Robert Beckman racks stolen from my house along with the LHT they were attached to. (Accidentally left the front door unlocked a week before Christmas. We were home and awake when the person came in.) The racks and accompanying panniers, which only work with the racks, cost, in 1999, about what I paid for the LHT in 2008. Screw the bike. The racks were far more important. I sometimes wonder what became of them.

Beckman was/is an odd fellow, but he made terrific stuff. My gear was delivered in May. He didn’t charge my credit card until September. What if I had switched cards or even died during my cross country tour?

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Old 11-21-22, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
As noted, I agree. An exception might be a bike that is left out for a while and eventually stripped for recycling money.

Sadly, back in 2010 I had my custom Robert Beckman racks stolen from my house along with the LHT they were attached to. (Accidentally left the front door unlocked a week before Christmas. We were home and awake when the person came in.) The racks and accompanying panniers, which only work with the racks, cost, in 1999, about what I paid for the LHT in 2008. Screw the bike. The racks were far more important. I sometimes wonder what became of them.

Beckman was/is an odd fellow, but he made terrific stuff. My gear was delivered in May. He didn’t charge my credit card until September. What if I had switched cards or even died during my cross country tour?
Did Beckman have any notable quotes?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
As noted, I agree. An exception might be a bike that is left out for a while and eventually stripped for recycling money.

Sadly, back in 2010 I had my custom Robert Beckman racks stolen from my house along with the LHT they were attached to. (Accidentally left the front door unlocked a week before Christmas. We were home and awake when the person came in.) The racks and accompanying panniers, which only work with the racks, cost, in 1999, about what I paid for the LHT in 2008. Screw the bike. The racks were far more important. I sometimes wonder what became of them.

Beckman was/is an odd fellow, but he made terrific stuff. My gear was delivered in May. He didn’t charge my credit card until September. What if I had switched cards or even died during my cross country tour?
I have seen a few of those. Over a year the bike was stripped to a frame until they finally took the bike to impound or wherever the city takes it. It was kind of ridiculous how every week or so more would be missing.
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Did Beckman have any notable quotes?
“My stuff is better than Bruce Gordon’s.”
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Originally Posted by seypat View Post
I think the more important questions are:

Anyone eaten at a Jack In The Box lately?
Anyone ever traveled to the land of Misfit toys? (It's nearly Christmas time)
No one wants to eat at a Charlie in the Box.
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Originally Posted by chaadster View Post
Is anyone familiar with the Bertrand Russell quote, “A stupid man's report of what a clever man says can never be accurate, because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand”??

Call it “translation error,” but it seems to happen a lot in the cycling world, especially because it’s such a nuanced and individualized activity, and we each have very distinct experiences doing it.
The scolders and grouches are out full force for a simple rack review. You do a great job ignoring the usual crew as they congratulate each other over the expected and unimaginative smart-ass comments Thanks for the post, as I was interested when the Kickstarter came out and glad to see it was successful.

A Wald Rack as an alternative, seriously?
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged View Post
A Wald Rack as an alternative, seriously?
Seriously.

And see post #17 for other alternatives.
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Seriously.

And see post #17 for other alternatives.
Thanks for making my point! 35,728 posts and counting, time well spent.
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Thanks for making my point! 35,728 posts and counting, time well spent.
Actually, I was being serious with "Seriously." You might not think it's an alternative, but you know what they say about opinions, don't you?
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I fail to see how a Wald rack which is a well regarded U.S. made product is not an alternative in this situation. Wald racks might be steel and heavy but they are well built well used racks/baskets and have been for a long long long long long time (1905 actually). I fail to see why they are a poor solution or not an alternative to a random bicycle rack from crowdfunding.

The beach chair was funny I laughed because well it is kinda true and good to have some sense of humor.
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A Wald Rack as an alternative, seriously?
Honest question: have you ever used one?
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