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Old 11-26-22, 05:12 PM
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What’s a 1Up nut??
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What’s a 1Up nut??
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Old 11-26-22, 05:29 PM
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Oh, right.
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I can't believe this thread was started in 2022
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe View Post
The (minor) inconvenience isn't the need to loosen the QR 3-4 turns when you remove a wheel, it's the need to turn it back just the right amount so that the QR closes properly. It's easy to just file the tabs off and never think about it again. Not much different than tossing away valve caps ...
you toss away valve caps?!? now that's dumb. or is it stupid...what's this thread about again?
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Old 11-26-22, 07:17 PM
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heck, now i'm thinking of filing them down now just to see how inconvenient it is having them. like tomato coupe said, its not the loosening of the QR to get the wheel off, its the tightening that i find a PITA.
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Old 11-26-22, 07:20 PM
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heck, now i'm thinking of filing them down now just to see how inconvenient it is having them.
Keep the filings, in case you change your mind later.
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Old 11-26-22, 07:28 PM
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Keep the filings, in case you change your mind later.
good idea. what do you think...duct tape or super glue?
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you toss away valve caps?!? now that's dumb. or is it stupid...what's this thread about again?
Next year I’m opening The Valve Cap Museum. It will be three floors high with 2 wings exclusively dedicated to the art and science of the immortal valve cap and its contributions to society, past and present. The inaugural week will be dedicated to black ones - “The Unsung Heroes”. Then maybe colored aluminum or ones with lights. 20% membership discount for sustaining members. Children under 35, free. Check here frequently for Gala opening details.
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Next year I’m opening The Valve Cap Museum. It will be three floors high with 2 wings exclusively dedicated to the art and science of the immortal valve cap and its contributions to society, past and present. The inaugural week will be dedicated to black ones - “The Unsung Heroes”. Then maybe colored aluminum or ones with lights. 20% membership discount for sustaining members. Children under 35, free. Check here frequently for Gala opening details.
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I should keep several valve caps in my seat bag, so I can throw one away whenever someone is looking. Maybe a few kickstands too.

Granted, I've gotten pretty quick at dealing with all kinds of front wheel attachments. Some of my bikes have nutted axles. I figure that I've already got a little wrench in my bag thanks to the gear hub, and even the wrench isn't really inconvenient.

I have one of the bikes that was made with a dropout fork and disc brake. Sure enough the wheel did pull out at one point. That wheel now has a solid front axle and track nuts, and hasn't budged.

When I was in middle school, one summer, it suddenly became utterly anathema to have any kind of attachments on your bike. I don't know if it was because some "cool" kid came through with a stripped down bike, or what. Anyway, within the space of a couple hours, all of the kids had gathered in my backyard, and we were stripping everything off our bikes: Fenders, chainguards, kickstands, everything. I don't think it occurred to us that we should remove the valve caps, or those were already gone. All of that stuff ended up our shed, and my dad probably threw it all away eventually.

Of course it was impossible to remove a Schwinn kickstand. Whoever tried to do so ended up worse off, with a dangling kickstand that had to be held up with a piece of hockey stick tape.

My "cool" days are over, if they ever began. Still, something reminds me of those days, once in a while.
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Old 11-26-22, 10:08 PM
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I can't believe this thread was started in 2022
Like the current carbonfiber debates in the road bike section. Holy Rip Van Winkle
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good idea. what do you think...duct tape or super glue?
Oh come on, JB weld.

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Old 11-29-22, 03:50 AM
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Can't do this with Lawyer Lips!

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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
A very dumb thing to do.
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Those little safety tabs are a non-issue when removing or installing a wheel, I never had a problem with removing a wheel... Grinding them off just to save weight or just because everybody around you is doing it is just dumb. A little bit of extra security on the from isn`t a bad thing.
Except that the OP never (repeat: NEVER) stated that he is doing it for either of those reasons.

You have a real knack for offering non-sequitur responses. But at least you didn't use this thread to brag about how you ride fixies or something.
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Old 12-06-22, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson View Post
Schwinn's front wheel retention clip is arguably the best of these devices:

https://patents.google.com/patent/US4103922A/en
I still have the original front wheel on my 83 High Sierra. Got drunk one night and had to take it off to fit in my friends minivan. I was beating on the wheel for almost five minutes, after loosening the qr. Uh-huh... forgot about the clips on a bike I've had since 2017, beating the wheel like it owed me money. I even disconnected the roller cam brake.
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Those little safety tabs are a non-issue when removing or installing a wheel, I never had a problem with removing a wheel... Grinding them off just to save weight or just because everybody around you is doing it is just dumb. A little bit of extra security on the from isn`t a bad thing.
It would be more for a quicker removal and preference, than "saving wieght", taking a piss would be more wieght savings. Trust, a loose QR will eventually bypass those lawyer lips, and so will loose nuts- ask me how I know.
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I personally do NOT like these tabs. I would estimate that I waste maybe 10-15 seconds to install the front wheel, and 5-10 seconds to remove the front wheel compared to a bike without them.

I accept that they have been deemed necessary by the granny state, but if you add up all the useless wasted time it's annoying. Not annoying enough to file them down and possibly affect the structural integrity of the front dropout, obv.

Accept it and carry on.
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Trust [me], a loose QR will eventually bypass those lawyer lips, and so will loose nuts.
True. Which is more than enough reason not to ride bikes with either a loose QR or nuts.
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