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Old 11-28-22, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz View Post
What's the deal with hybrids? Their quality is low. Their price is low. Why don't they call them lowbrids?

BTW....They're hybrid, and theyre spectacular.

I don't know how you guys ride around on those things.
Yada yada yada
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Old 11-28-22, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
I think “hybrid” initially held promise as describing a happy medium between road and mountain. I just wonder if it has skewed so far away from the mountain bike side that the name really applies anymore.
Well, here's the thing. The term "happy medium" is, in itself, a nebulous one. When I bought my 2014 7.6 FX as NOS way back in 2016 (and my second, barely used 7.6 FX in late 2018,) I did so on the premise (my own, that is) that they were the closest thing to a flat-bar road bike I could get my hands on at the time. I wanted a road bike; I just didn't want the drop bars. I didn't care at all whether they had any MTB DNA left in them; the direct-pull brakes, 135mm rear hub spacing, and wide (for the time) range cassette notwithstanding. I wouldn't have cared if they called it a flat-bar road bike, a hybrid, or an MTB with road wheels - I still would've bought it because it ticked all the boxes for me. So even though the model skewed more heavily towards the road side of hybrid, it was - and still is - my happy medium. Someone else's happy medium might be more like a Trek DS type of thing; it just seems that "gravel bike" is a lot of people's happy medium, probably because the marketing spares a lot of people the trouble of actually thinking through where on the spectrum - real or imagined - their happy medium lies.
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Old 11-28-22, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Hybrid is a jack of all trades master of none type of a bike. Good for pavement, commuting, fitness riding and not too bad off pavement if you put some off-road tires on it. Just like a crossover suv.
Would it still be a "crossover SUV" if it had only front wheel drive and rode on low-profile, all-season tires like plenty "lifestyle" crossovers sold today do? That's a lot of semantics to unpack, none of which make any sense outside of the marketing copy.
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Old 11-28-22, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Herzlos View Post
If I only had a single bike (!!) then I'd probably have a hybrid with one of the 63mm suspension forks, and some fairly chunky tires.
I would've loved me a dual sport type of thing. I would've added a good suspension seat post to make it perfect. But when I went to the local Trek dealer with the intention of buying one, they said I probably might reconsider if I actually sat on one. Being just 5'3"/160cm, I quickly realized that there was no way I could deal with the extremely long reach, even on the smallest-size frame! So that was that. Why Trek designed the DS like that, with a longer reach than most of their mountain bikes, is beyond me.
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Old 11-28-22, 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01 View Post
I guess just like 700C tires the term will be with us forever. The manufacturers probably wont fully let go of it as long as we continue to use it. And we won't let go of it if the manufacturers keep using it.... a viscous circle!
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Mountain bikes were hybrids of BMX cruisers and touring bikes, right?

No cross pollinization from mountain bikes on this one but it ticks pretty much all the boxes

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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
They're sort of the mini-van of bikes: unglamorous but useful.
I'm sure a lot of people who had more money than they knew what to do with would've bought this if it had ever gone into production...



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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53 View Post
A hybrid is a bike that does everything poorly. LOL. So they are sold to beginners that are poor at knowing anything about bikes.
I gotta disagree. I once felt this way, and i bad-mouthed hybrids for years afterwards, after helping a freind assemble a couple over-engineered clunkers he bought for he and his girlfriend back in the 90s..
But from what I've seen in recent years, the manufacturers/designers have made significant improvements on the concept, (and many of the varied sub-genres), so I've since become a fan, and own a couple myself. In fact, earlier this year I scored a deal on a minty-nice, 9 speed Giant (flat bar road bike), that has become my #1 ride for months now.
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Old 11-28-22, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Darth Lefty View Post
Mountain bikes were hybrids of BMX cruisers and touring bikes, right?
Not really - they were more like hybrids of beach cruisers and insane riders.
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Old 11-28-22, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes View Post
Yada yada yada
I mentioned the discs.
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Old 11-28-22, 03:26 PM
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Old 11-28-22, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir View Post
I would've loved me a dual sport type of thing. I would've added a good suspension seat post to make it perfect. But when I went to the local Trek dealer with the intention of buying one, they said I probably might reconsider if I actually sat on one. Being just 5'3"/160cm, I quickly realized that there was no way I could deal with the extremely long reach, even on the smallest-size frame! So that was that. Why Trek designed the DS like that, with a longer reach than most of their mountain bikes, is beyond me.
I share this minority (here on teh Biek Formz) taste for dual-sport types of things (stop laughing, you in the back).

I like one of the common Euro terms for these: 'cross bike' ('cross' as in cross-terrain, not cyclocross). Anyway ... I am sorely tempted by the bike linked below, especially given a recent price reduction that makes it almost affordable in $Cdn (after GST, and our bloody 13% import duty on complete bikes).

Hmmmm ... perfect for a beginner like me, who knows nothing about bikes and doesn't know any better (I've learnt this about myself while reading through this thread).
https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/hybrid-...rahmenfarbe=BK
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Old 11-28-22, 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by badger1 View Post
I share this minority (here on teh Biek Formz) taste for dual-sport types of things (stop laughing, you in the back).

I like one of the common Euro terms for these: 'cross bike' ('cross' as in cross-terrain, not cyclocross). Anyway ... I am sorely tempted by the bike linked below, especially given a recent price reduction that makes it almost affordable in $Cdn (after GST, and our bloody 13% import duty on complete bikes).

Hmmmm ... perfect for a beginner like me, who knows nothing about bikes and doesn't know any better (I've learnt this about myself while reading through this thread).
https://www.canyon.com/en-ca/hybrid-...rahmenfarbe=BK
The Canyon's XS frame has a reach of 387mm - way closer to my ballpark that the 410mm of the Trek DS's S-size frame. The salesman who said I should probably sit on the DS before I decided to buy it knew what he was talking about.
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Old 11-28-22, 05:07 PM
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At the end of the day, wasn't a hybrid from its inception just a modernized cruiser bike? Basically an updated Schwinn Suburban with more gears and a flatbar handlebar?
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Old 11-28-22, 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sjanzeir View Post
"Cruise control is like auto pilot..."

https://youtu.be/PNF7Ru1mMeo
And self-driving vehicles haven't become much better. Remember the guy who crashed his Tesla in self-driving mode while playing a video game?
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And self-driving vehicles haven't become much better. Remember the guy who crashed his Tesla in self-driving mode while playing a video game?
Well, technically, he did not crash his Tesla. He was just out minding his own business, playing a video game. It was the Tesla that went and crashed itself for no good reason
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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
Yeah, the "comfort," "fitness," and "hybrid" categories seem to have a lot of overlap.
It all depends on who you're trying to sell it to.

In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
It all depends on who you're trying to sell it to.

In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.



Who you callin' mediocre?
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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
Agreed on all counts. The shop where I occasionally work sells a ton of hybrids, mostly to moms and dads who want to ride with their kids or put a child seat on them, and also a fair number to those who want to give commuting a shot.

They're sort of the mini-van of bikes: unglamorous but useful.
Why I own one. Riding with the kids, pulling the tag along, riding around the campground when camping. Kids got older dropped 25 tires & fenders on it and used it to commute. Still ride the MUP on it sometimes or to street festivals urban stuff like that. The bike that's easiest & cheapest to replace if it got stolen
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Originally Posted by Eric F;[url=tel:22723734
22723734]The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
I’d be more generous than that, given their share of the market. I see the hybrid as a less purposeful bike for those for whom the bicycle isn’t a big part of their life or identity. Y’know, like normal people lol.
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Originally Posted by Rolla View Post
I’d be more generous than that, given their share of the market. I see the hybrid as a less purposeful bike for those for whom the bicycle isn’t a big part of their life or identity. Y’know, like normal people lol.
That’s valid.
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Seems to apply to a lot of threads these days:
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The real death of the hybrid bike was the hybrid car. Suddenly the name meant something else entirely to more people. The very bike style that beginners and commuters would use, had a name that made as much sense as clipping into clipless pedals.
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The real death of the hybrid bike was the hybrid car. Suddenly the name meant something else entirely to more people. The very bike style that beginners and commuters would use, had a name that made as much sense as clipping into clipless pedals.
Or using a seatpost to hold a saddle.
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Originally Posted by Eric F View Post
It all depends on who you're trying to sell it to.

In my recollection, the early hybrids sat pretty squarely between road bikes and MTBs. It was an all-around bike for the masses of recreational/occasional cyclists who weren't interested in going as fast as possible on the road, or riding extreme conditions in the dirt. The hybrid was a mediocre bicycle for mediocre riders.
Rode across the country in '99 with a guy riding a Cannondale hybrid. He rode in sneakers. Real mountain goat. Being a runner from Leadville, CO, will do that to you.



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