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'I just can't stop': Cyclist dies after confessing he was addicted to riding

Old 12-05-22, 11:52 AM
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...all the cannery buildings have been turned into office parks, though. The trucks are still around, during the season, but they are hauling tomatoes to other towns. like Williams or Los Banos.

Ah Sacratomato! You would think a kid that went to UC Davis would know that, but in my day it was called Sacrodemento. Guess the area has gone vegetarian. ​​​​​​​
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
2000 KM or more per month on an indoor trainer is the key detail in this story.... It`s pretty obvious he took it to the extreme and his heart paid the price for it.
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Hours and KMs are not the same thing..Few years back I used to put in as much as 20 hours per week of riding outside, but it still was far from 2000 KM per month.

So the number of KMs per month is THE magic number in determining the likelihood of fatality? On an indoor trainer? Why? Neither time nor mileage by themselves would tell you if he was overtraining as you don't know the level of effort involved.

Seriously, do you actually read what you type?
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If the guy had admitted he drove car all day long joy riding or just sat in his easy chair all day and had a heart attack, what would we be saying about him? Probably that he should ride or at least exercise more.

Too much is being put on his riding time and not enough on what his over all health may have been due to many other things.

And how many of us are likely to stop doing what we like to do just because it might kill us?
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Neither time nor mileage by themselves would tell you if he was overtraining as you don't know the level of effort involved.
I am pretty certain that he did way too much HIIT and intensity over the years., he himself said that he had to scale back on intensity and not go above zone 2 because it would cause chest pains.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I am pretty certain that he did way too much HIIT and intensity over the years., he himself said that he had to scale back on intensity and not go above zone 2 because it would cause chest pains.
This was the warning sign he should have heeded, but didn't.
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Old 12-06-22, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I am pretty certain that he did way too much HIIT and intensity over the years., he himself said that he had to scale back on intensity and not go above zone 2 because it would cause chest pains.
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This was the warning sign he should have heeded, but didn't.
Indeed. I hate to be harsh, but he didn't give himself a chance, head in the sand denial and - possibly - a doctor phobia.
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Originally Posted by Camilo
Indeed. I hate to be harsh, but he didn't give himself a chance, head in the sand denial and - possibly - a doctor phobia.
I had a friend with that phobia. Skinny guy in his mid-50s. Not a fast guy, but he could ride long distances. Had a poor diet from what I could tell. He didnít like to go to doctors because he didnít want to know what might be wrong.

One February morning he went out on a club ride and dropped dead of an apparent heart attack after fewer than two miles. An EMT was driving by and started working on him quickly, but she was unable to revive him. Glad I was not there to see it.
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ERs of course do the same, but they generally (always?) do not turn you away if you don't have coverage. So it's a non-relevant fact that they asked you for your insurance infol
Yep, it is literally illegal for an ER to turn away a patient, insured or not. The law is called the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
If the guy had admitted he drove car all day long joy riding or just sat in his easy chair all day and had a heart attack, what would we be saying about him? Probably that he should ride or at least exercise more.

Too much is being put on his riding time and not enough on what his over all health may have been due to many other things.

And how many of us are likely to stop doing what we like to do just because it might kill us?
I'm reminded of Jim Fixx, who wrote The Complete Book of Running -- and then dropped dead at age 52 on his daily run. Standup comics had a field day with that, but his autopsy and history suggested that he would've died even younger if not for the running. (Congenital heart problems and previously unhealthy lifestyle.)
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I had a friend with that phobia. Skinny guy in his mid-50s. Not a fast guy, but he could ride long distances. Had a poor diet from what I could tell. He didn’t like to go to doctors because he didn’t want to know what might be wrong.

One February morning he went out on a club ride and dropped dead of an apparent heart attack after fewer than two miles. An EMT was driving by and started working on him quickly, but she was unable to revive him. Glad I was not there to see it.
I knew a guy who disliked medical care so much he didn't even go to the dentist for many years, pretty much his entire adult life. They found him at the bottom of the stairs dead of a heart attack (he was home alone at the time). No indication of heart problems, mostly because he never went to the doctor no matter what or how he was feeling. Great guy and good friend, hard worker, not obese, but no healthy habits at all. And, imho, a neurotic avoidance of anything medical.
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I'm reminded of Jim Fixx, who wrote The Complete Book of Running -- and then dropped dead at age 52 on his daily run. Standup comics had a field day with that, but his autopsy and history suggested that he would've died even younger if not for the running.
“Remember Jim Fixx? The big famous jogging guy? Jogged fifteen miles a day. Did a jogging book. Did a jogging video. Dropped dead of a heart attack when? When he was ****ing jogging, that's when!”—Denis Leary

Leary then went on the suggest that it was two smokers who found the body.

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Originally Posted by RH Clark
There has been quite an increase in heart related deaths in younger people the last couple years according to the stats released by insurance companies. I wonder what could have possibly caused it.
5G radiation? Although the jury is out as to whether this intensity can break cell walls, we do know that it causes abnormal activity in mitochondria, which are the energy-producing parts of the cell.

Find out where the 5G transmitters are, locally, and where there are plans to install them.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ve-5g-is-safe/
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
5G radiation? Although the jury is out as to whether this intensity can break cell walls, we do know that it causes abnormal activity in mitochondria, which are the energy-producing parts of the cell.

Find out where the 5G transmitters are, locally, and where there are plans to install them.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ve-5g-is-safe/

There is no jury and it is not still out. This post is complete BS.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
True, if you couple an eating disorder with large amounts of exercise, you can definitely create a heart problem.
My math was wrong, though, he was averaging about 40 miles a day.
True that... Dark Chocolate is gonna be the death of me...
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I am pretty certain that he did way too much HIIT and intensity over the years., he himself said that he had to scale back on intensity and not go above zone 2 because it would cause chest pains.

Obviously, if he wasn't going above zone 2, he wasn't doing HIIT any more, and there's no telling from the article when he stopped. It could've been years ago.

There's really no telling what caused his heart problems, especially with the very, very limited information we have available and neither of us being pathologists.

If he was having chest pains associated with any level of exertion, he should have had it checked out, but that's a lot less attractive as click bit as "his cycling habit killed him".
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True that... Dark Chocolate is gonna be the death of me...
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Dark chocolate in moderation actually has health benefits as Cacao has beneficial compounds. Much healthier than milk chocolate.

Key word is moderation.
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
5G radiation?
Seriously?


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Seriously?
That is a reply? Seriously? I've supplied a link to a reputable scientific journal with citations from leading researchers in the field.., and your response is this?
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Scientific American is not a journal, reputable or not. The "article" was not peer reviewed and is listed as a blog. The author has shown extreme bias against radio signals in previous work and has claimed for well over a decade, despite a significant body of scientific evidence showing that he is incorrect and no accepted scientific evidence supporting his claims, that wireless transmissions lead to increased rates of cancer. It's all bunk.
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
I've supplied a link to a reputable scientific journal with citations from leading researchers in the field..
Reputable scientific journal - LOL.

Here's a review article from Nature Journal of Exposure Science & Environmental Epidemiology:
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5G mobile networks and health—a state-of-the-science review of the research into low-level RF fields above 6 GHz



The epidemiological studies showed little evidence of health effects including cancer at different sites, effects on reproduction and other diseases. This review showed no confirmed evidence that low-level RF fields above 6 GHz such as those used by the 5 G network are hazardous to human health.

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J Expo Sci Environ Epidemiol31, 585–605 (2021)
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
Reputable scientific journal - LOL.
You have a link to that published research paper?
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8263336/
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
You have a link to that published research paper?

And just for s&g, here's a rebuttal piece in the same Scientific American opinion blog you got yours from:


https://blogs.scientificamerican.com...ring-about-5g/
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