One more excuse to skip riding when it's cold
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You can always wear a lycra face covering with a plastic surgical mask shaper beneath it. Koreans always wear buff type scarves on their face while riding and it's a good idea. Keeps insects out of your mouth, but most importantly for me, they keep the sun off your face, so you don't need to have all the sunscreen flow out with your sweat a few kms into your ride. I have a bunch of lycra balaclavas that I wear and I use mask shapers in them, basically a rounded plastic cage that goes over your mouth that is designed to stop surgical masks wetly slapping at your lips with every breath you take. The space created by the mask shaper forms a pocket of warm humid air around your nose and mouth, so dry, cold winter air doesn't really affect you all that much. It's not for everyone and some people are a bit strange about masks, but it keeps your face warm and helps to minimize the effects of subzero air when breathed.
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Just one more thing to worry about.
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There's *cold", like those evenings in Southern California when you have to wear a sweater, then there is COLD, like in Hokkaido were the snow is at eye-level, and you get a hard workout just clearing a path to get your bike to the roadway. I don't ride in the latter kind of cold, but am fine with the former. I have already put away my bikes and got out my skis, which I plan to put to good use this winter. When I am not skiing, I will be doing maintenance and adding a few upgrades to my bikes, which will add motivation to get me out and riding once it starts to get warmer.
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Before developing a neuroma, I was an avid cross country skier, always pushing myself as well as doing the black runs downhill skiing. Snow shoeing was always a jog rather than a leisurely walk, since aerobic fitness was always my thing. Usually worked up a good sweat and would overheat doing winter sports. Would even single track MTB in the snow when the conditions were right and would sweat going up the climbs and be chilled when I got to the bottom and then repeat. Never had issues with breathing but was not aware of additional load on the heart due to vasal constriction. It does make sense. Luckily my lungs don’t freeze and hurt like Mrs RSbob, so backing off was not a consideration, but now I may have a convenient excuse to take it easier.
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So it's cold out, do you take an outdoor ride or stay indoors?
Well, if you're looking for excuses to stay cozy and warm indoors, cold weather reportedly can:
Well, if you're looking for excuses to stay cozy and warm indoors, cold weather reportedly can:
- cause heart attacks
- damage your lungs
- causes your body to produce adrenalin which constricts your arteries and raises your blood pressure
- thickens your blood and makes it more likely to clot
- causes the liver to make more fibrinogen that increases clotting
- raises cholesterol levels
- may reduce your body temperature, which weakens your heart muscle
- may induce exercise-induced asthma
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People who suffer from heart or lung disease or some genetic disorder affecting their heart should be careful about exercising in any weather and also be careful exercising indoors. Weather is not the problem, the problem is too much intensity, some people push themselves too hard too often.
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So it's cold out, do you take an outdoor ride or stay indoors?
Well, if you're looking for excuses to stay cozy and warm indoors, cold weather reportedly can:
Well, if you're looking for excuses to stay cozy and warm indoors, cold weather reportedly can:
- cause heart attacks
- damage your lungs
- causes your body to produce adrenalin which constricts your arteries and raises your blood pressure
- thickens your blood and makes it more likely to clot
- causes the liver to make more fibrinogen that increases clotting
- raises cholesterol levels
- may reduce your body temperature, which weakens your heart muscle
- may induce exercise-induced asthma
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Hawaii, Florida, and Louisiana are the only states in the U.S. where the yearly average temperature is above 65ş F.
In the continental United States, the average temperature is 52.7° F.
(https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...mperatures.php)
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Reading the article, the part about elevated risk of heart attacks relates to susceptible individuals, particularly those with heart or lung disease.
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I'd think the author's nickname should be 'Capitan Obvious'. Considering the amount of time I spent during the 1980s - 1990s mountain climbing in sub zero (fahrenheit) weather for 1-3 weeks at a time, week-long backcountry ski trips all over the West Coast USA, day-long (pre-dawn to post-sunset) XC skiing, and +35 years of bike riding in winter temps down to about 40F (occasionally down to 25F), I should be dead by now.
Now we need a complimentary article about the negative health effects riding and exercising in hot weather.
Now we need a complimentary article about the negative health effects riding and exercising in hot weather.
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We are fortunate to have a nice indoor track at our rec center so I can do some strength training and a safe, well-lit run regardless of the weather.
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There have been many articles written in the last 2 years about the cardiac dangers of various activities that never used to be a cause for concern. Look at what Gabe Mirkin has written about other public health measures recently, and the context in which this article was written starts to make more sense. This is a trend among the articles attempting to explain away heart problems in otherwise healthy relatively young adults, pay attention to patterns.
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Does this study track age as a factor to susceptibility? I was in my mid-twenties then.
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Hawaii, Florida, and Louisiana are the only states in the U.S. where the yearly average temperature is above 65ş F.
In the continental United States, the average temperature is 52.7° F.
(https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...mperatures.php)
In the continental United States, the average temperature is 52.7° F.
(https://www.currentresults.com/Weath...mperatures.php)
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A quote from the article is You feel cold most in your fingers, ears and toes, so be sure to cover these areas.?
Perhaps useful for someone from a hot climate who has never experienced weather below 65F.
and To help keep your hands warm on cold days, wear mittens that do not let wind or water in...
I think it's reasonable to conclude this article is not written for me. I'll pass.
Here's a cold hard truth if you're an American: unless you do something unusual, you'll die in a nursing home where unskilled labor has been changing your diapers and wiping your butt for the last phase of your existence. A cold induced fatal heart attack while cycling sounds like one of the better alternatives to me. Other people may choose to give up the joys of life for one more breath.
"you can keep an old person alive a long time with Ensure" - anonymous eldercare professional
Perhaps useful for someone from a hot climate who has never experienced weather below 65F.
and To help keep your hands warm on cold days, wear mittens that do not let wind or water in...
I think it's reasonable to conclude this article is not written for me. I'll pass.
Here's a cold hard truth if you're an American: unless you do something unusual, you'll die in a nursing home where unskilled labor has been changing your diapers and wiping your butt for the last phase of your existence. A cold induced fatal heart attack while cycling sounds like one of the better alternatives to me. Other people may choose to give up the joys of life for one more breath.
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So it's cold out, do you take an outdoor ride or stay indoors?
Well, if you're looking for excuses to stay cozy and warm indoors, cold weather reportedly can:
Well, if you're looking for excuses to stay cozy and warm indoors, cold weather reportedly can:
- cause heart attacks
- damage your lungs
- causes your body to produce adrenalin which constricts your arteries and raises your blood pressure
- thickens your blood and makes it more likely to clot
- causes the liver to make more fibrinogen that increases clotting
- raises cholesterol levels
- may reduce your body temperature, which weakens your heart muscle
- may induce exercise-induced asthma
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No one believes you actually read the article. Go ahead and debunk one word of it with specificity. Hint: it doesn't tell people to avoid winter activities unless they have heart/lung problems. You really want to argue with wearing adequate clothing?
Wanna argue from anecdote?
I was a kid in Minnesota before snow blowers were common. It was routine to report on the news the number of people who died from heart attacks shoveling snow.
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Hypothermia and frostbite are illusions? You need to publish your findings. This is Nobel Prize stuff.
News flash--people's bodies vary in their ability to tolerate cold. Also, people in cold climates are more adept at clothing themselves for outdoor activities.
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Seriously? Dr Mirkin? You might as well quote Dr. Oz.
FWIW, I love exercising in the cold and miss that here since we moved to Tallahassee. We only get a few mornings per year where I can get out when it is in the 20s and not many more where it is in the 30s. I'd be happy to take a lot more cold weather and skip a lot of our rrelentless heat of summer. I can manage to avoid the worst of the heat by getting out at the crack of dawn though.
FWIW, I love exercising in the cold and miss that here since we moved to Tallahassee. We only get a few mornings per year where I can get out when it is in the 20s and not many more where it is in the 30s. I'd be happy to take a lot more cold weather and skip a lot of our rrelentless heat of summer. I can manage to avoid the worst of the heat by getting out at the crack of dawn though.
Mirkin has more Grammys.
So what do you have against Dr. Mirkin?
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I always look forward to cycling in cold weather, it activates BAT. I tend to lose weight and increase my aerobic capacity. I developed asthma later in life, so, I have to be a little careful with really hard efforts. I'll leave it to the canines and lawyers to debate the Fick equation principles. I'm with DT42, I'd rather die on my bike than from sepsis because unskilled labour didn't change my diaper in a week.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6466122/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6449850/
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...4015-brown-fat
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6466122/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6449850/
https://my.clevelandclinic.org/healt...4015-brown-fat
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It's amazing how all those skiers, skaters, runners, snowshoers, construction workers, etc managed to stay alive all these years in northern climates.