Anyone else keeping their rim brake frames ?
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Originally Posted by seypat
Aren't you the one who goes through shifter cables so fast you'd buy them in bulk if you could? And, the situation gets worse with each group upgrade? No wonder Shimano is pushing electronic as hard as they are. Once they went to the hidden cable design, the product suffered. They don't care.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
It seems odd that someone who acknowledges "admittedly limited experience" with something would then hold such a strong opinion about it.
BTW, experience isn’t everything. I don’t have to eat dog shoot to know it would be a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I get about 3k miles from a RD cable. I don’t know why but must be my shift frequency is higher than average. I have come to peace with this. At least the newer generation shifters make cable change easier.
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Originally Posted by drz400
Maybe I'm just cheap and won't pay the price but I don't get paid to ride so I'm keeping my rim brakes. Anyone else out there or am I just an old fossil ?
That's a yes.
(No brifters either though I bought some on CV Sales; still downtube shifting but I do index occasionally)
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01-06-23, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Im not talking about the rates of evolution; but that disk/Di2 is the inflection point at which you’re either compatible with the new technology or this is as far as you go.
This is a thing that MTBers are used to. There would always be a point where you wouldn’t be able to upgrade to the latest and greatest, because it was designed for the new bikes, not your old one.
You either enjoy your bike as it is, knowing it’s “maxed out,” or you retire it and move on to a new one
This is a thing that MTBers are used to. There would always be a point where you wouldn’t be able to upgrade to the latest and greatest, because it was designed for the new bikes, not your old one.
You either enjoy your bike as it is, knowing it’s “maxed out,” or you retire it and move on to a new one
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Half the people in bikeforums do not get sarcasm
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Insecurities ???...Do you really believe that I worry about what others think of my bikes ?
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
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Insecurities ???...Do you really believe that I worry about what others think of my bikes ?
Originally Posted by PeteHski
The insecurity comes from what YOU think other people are thinking of your bikes. The fact that you believe they are looking down on you is about as insecure as you can get.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
Also the kind of person who will make a point of telling you that they make it a point to remove or paint over all the branding and logos on their bikes; in the name of individualism, or something like that.
These kind of people take Everything too seriously.
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Originally Posted by Lombard
The solution is SRAM Force 22.
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I paid and an obscene amount of money to replace my 11 speed mechanical Shimano Ultegra with SRAM eTap AXS for my rim brake Emonda ALR. But I love this bike, so it was worth every penny.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
So are you saying "use the Force"?
Of course, there's the Menace of Phantom shifts, but that's the episode we don't talk about.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Mavic ZAP! Accept no substitutes
Of course, there's the Menace of Phantom shifts, but that's the episode we don't talk about.
Of course, there's the Menace of Phantom shifts, but that's the episode we don't talk about.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Im not talking about the rates of evolution; but that disk/Di2 is the inflection point at which you’re either compatible with the new technology or this is as far as you go.
This is a thing that MTBers are used to. There would always be a point where you wouldn’t be able to upgrade to the latest and greatest, because it was designed for the new bikes, not your old one.
You either enjoy your bike as it is, knowing it’s “maxed out,” or you retire it and move on to a new one
This is a thing that MTBers are used to. There would always be a point where you wouldn’t be able to upgrade to the latest and greatest, because it was designed for the new bikes, not your old one.
You either enjoy your bike as it is, knowing it’s “maxed out,” or you retire it and move on to a new one
even the STI you mentioned isn’t a deal breaker; my MBK works with downtube or STI, and so does your 89 Klein, I’m sure. And more modern road bikes can still use friction bar ends, etc. Disk brakes are the first road bike tech change in MY lifetime where you genuinely can’t just swap everything over to the new frame (headset and BB standards notwithstanding, tbf). It’s understandable that there would be some resistance.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Everyone thinks they’re freaky until the guy with the U-brakes shows up; then it’s just some garden variety vanilla kink.
Nice PAUL’s btw; but what’s going on here? I see a Station badge with what looks like CAAD wishbone stays
Nice PAUL’s btw; but what’s going on here? I see a Station badge with what looks like CAAD wishbone stays
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
Why would it be taken as sarcasm this time when it's been genuine and serious so many times before?
01-07-23, 01:00 AM
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Disk brakes are ugly, inelegant, heavy, and by many accounts a PITA to deal with, in terms of maintenance, installation, etc. In my admittedly limited experience, they provide little modulation, and are basically an "ON/OFF" proposition. I can stop my bike using single fingers on the levers, so I have plenty of stopping power available. Do disk brakes stop good in wet conditions? Sure. But I don't ride in wet conditions. I have a road racing bike--so for me, what other benefit to them is there?
We'll see what happens to them when everything old becomes new again. Vinyl records, anyone?
We'll see what happens to them when everything old becomes new again. Vinyl records, anyone?
So what? Well, when a motorist in a motor-vehicle decides to pull out immediately in front of me, say less than 15ft, then I like not becoming a bonnet ornament. Cemeteries are filled with people who "were in the right and had right of way" but still died. It's why I dont ride motor cycles in Europe any more.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
My Surly has both disc brake mounts and v brake or canti mounts on the fork and frame. My Rocky Mountain MTB is only disc specific, my KHS can only use rim caliper brakes. I remember years ago many different manufacturers produced bikes with options to run ether disc or v brakes. They don't make them like this anymore, I wonder why ?
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Originally Posted by Leinster
ok, I get you.
even the STI you mentioned isn’t a deal breaker; my MBK works with downtube or STI, and so does your 89 Klein, I’m sure. And more modern road bikes can still use friction bar ends, etc. Disk brakes are the first road bike tech change in MY lifetime where you genuinely can’t just swap everything over to the new frame (headset and BB standards notwithstanding, tbf). It’s understandable that there would be some resistance.
even the STI you mentioned isn’t a deal breaker; my MBK works with downtube or STI, and so does your 89 Klein, I’m sure. And more modern road bikes can still use friction bar ends, etc. Disk brakes are the first road bike tech change in MY lifetime where you genuinely can’t just swap everything over to the new frame (headset and BB standards notwithstanding, tbf). It’s understandable that there would be some resistance.
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
What about wheel spacing?
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
People love disc brakes because the work fantastic and are a definite improvement over the rim brakes of the past.
Result of successful marketing:
"The truck backed up.., and everybody got in."
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr
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Insecurities ???...Do you really believe that I worry about what others think of my bikes ?
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Insecurities ???...Do you really believe that I worry about what others think of my bikes ?
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
Disc brakes: heavier, more complex, upset the lateral balance of the bike, are more expensive, are less aero-dynamic. Caliper is closer to the road or trail.
Result of successful marketing:
"The truck backed up.., and everybody got in."
Result of successful marketing:
"The truck backed up.., and everybody got in."
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Originally Posted by DonkeyShow
Dont see myself purchasing a disk brake bike in the next 10 years at least so its probably wise to keep the rim brake ones.
