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Old 01-06-23, 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Aren't you the one who goes through shifter cables so fast you'd buy them in bulk if you could? And, the situation gets worse with each group upgrade? No wonder Shimano is pushing electronic as hard as they are. Once they went to the hidden cable design, the product suffered. They don't care.
The solution is SRAM Force 22.
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Old 01-06-23, 09:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
It seems odd that someone who acknowledges "admittedly limited experience" with something would then hold such a strong opinion about it.
My opinion is based upon many things, my experience included.

BTW, experience isnít everything. I donít have to eat dog shoot to know it would be a bad idea.
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Originally Posted by datlas
I get about 3k miles from a RD cable. I donít know why but must be my shift frequency is higher than average. I have come to peace with this. At least the newer generation shifters make cable change easier.
Though internally routed cables make cable changing more difficult and time consuming.
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Old 01-06-23, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by drz400
Maybe I'm just cheap and won't pay the price but I don't get paid to ride so I'm keeping my rim brakes. Anyone else out there or am I just an old fossil ?
'Until they pry my cold dead fingers..."
That's a yes.
(No brifters either though I bought some on CV Sales; still downtube shifting but I do index occasionally)

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Old 01-06-23, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Im not talking about the rates of evolution; but that disk/Di2 is the inflection point at which youíre either compatible with the new technology or this is as far as you go.

This is a thing that MTBers are used to. There would always be a point where you wouldnít be able to upgrade to the latest and greatest, because it was designed for the new bikes, not your old one.
You either enjoy your bike as it is, knowing itís ďmaxed out,Ē or you retire it and move on to a new one
Preach it brother! My cycling evolution stopped when road triples were no longer supported by the OEMs. That's life. I deal with it.
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Old 01-06-23, 09:20 PM
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Half the people in bikeforums do not get sarcasm

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Insecurities ???...Do you really believe that I worry about what others think of my bikes ?

Originally Posted by PeteHski
The insecurity comes from what YOU think other people are thinking of your bikes. The fact that you believe they are looking down on you is about as insecure as you can get.
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
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Old 01-06-23, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
The poster of whom you speak has a reputation as sort of the Rydabent of flat-bar single-speeds. (How do you know if someone is a single-speed rider? Theyíll tell you every chance they get)
Also the kind of person who will make a point of telling you that they make it a point to remove or paint over all the branding and logos on their bikes; in the name of individualism, or something like that.
These kind of people take Everything too seriously.
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Old 01-06-23, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Lombard
The solution is SRAM Force 22.
So are you saying "use the Force"?
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I paid and an obscene amount of money to replace my 11 speed mechanical Shimano Ultegra with SRAM eTap AXS for my rim brake Emonda ALR. But I love this bike, so it was worth every penny.
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Old 01-06-23, 10:15 PM
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
So are you saying "use the Force"?
Mavic ZAP! Accept no substitutes

Of course, there's the Menace of Phantom shifts, but that's the episode we don't talk about.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Mavic ZAP! Accept no substitutes

Of course, there's the Menace of Phantom shifts, but that's the episode we don't talk about.
"Mavic Mavic Mavic, that's all I ever hear in the house!"
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Old 01-06-23, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Im not talking about the rates of evolution; but that disk/Di2 is the inflection point at which youíre either compatible with the new technology or this is as far as you go.

This is a thing that MTBers are used to. There would always be a point where you wouldnít be able to upgrade to the latest and greatest, because it was designed for the new bikes, not your old one.
You either enjoy your bike as it is, knowing itís ďmaxed out,Ē or you retire it and move on to a new one
ok, I get you.

even the STI you mentioned isnít a deal breaker; my MBK works with downtube or STI, and so does your 89 Klein, Iím sure. And more modern road bikes can still use friction bar ends, etc. Disk brakes are the first road bike tech change in MY lifetime where you genuinely canít just swap everything over to the new frame (headset and BB standards notwithstanding, tbf). Itís understandable that there would be some resistance.
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Old 01-06-23, 11:48 PM
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If I didn’t, I’d have nothing to ride.
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
Everyone thinks theyíre freaky until the guy with the U-brakes shows up; then itís just some garden variety vanilla kink.

Nice PAULís btw; but whatís going on here? I see a Station badge with what looks like CAAD wishbone stays
The Station badge is correct. Cannondale did that for the 2010 T1 which is also the last year they made bikes in the US.
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr
Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
It's written word and it's coming from someone who has a history of making the exact same point in a serious manner.
Why would it be taken as sarcasm this time when it's been genuine and serious so many times before?
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Originally Posted by smd4
Disk brakes are ugly, inelegant, heavy, and by many accounts a PITA to deal with, in terms of maintenance, installation, etc. In my admittedly limited experience, they provide little modulation, and are basically an "ON/OFF" proposition. I can stop my bike using single fingers on the levers, so I have plenty of stopping power available. Do disk brakes stop good in wet conditions? Sure. But I don't ride in wet conditions. I have a road racing bike--so for me, what other benefit to them is there?

We'll see what happens to them when everything old becomes new again. Vinyl records, anyone?
This post exposes a very good point. Disc brakes work better in the wet. From my experience of commuting in urban areas and often in the wet, I appreciate the added security that comes from being able to stop in one/two bike lengths. I have found that rim brakes require a bit longer to bite and grip, when all is wet.
So what? Well, when a motorist in a motor-vehicle decides to pull out immediately in front of me, say less than 15ft, then I like not becoming a bonnet ornament. Cemeteries are filled with people who "were in the right and had right of way" but still died. It's why I dont ride motor cycles in Europe any more.
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Old 01-07-23, 01:23 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
My Surly has both disc brake mounts and v brake or canti mounts on the fork and frame. My Rocky Mountain MTB is only disc specific, my KHS can only use rim caliper brakes. I remember years ago many different manufacturers produced bikes with options to run ether disc or v brakes. They don't make them like this anymore, I wonder why ?
Because it was a ridiculous,
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Originally Posted by Leinster
ok, I get you.

even the STI you mentioned isnít a deal breaker; my MBK works with downtube or STI, and so does your 89 Klein, Iím sure. And more modern road bikes can still use friction bar ends, etc. Disk brakes are the first road bike tech change in MY lifetime where you genuinely canít just swap everything over to the new frame (headset and BB standards notwithstanding, tbf). Itís understandable that there would be some resistance.
What about wheel spacing?
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
What about wheel spacing?
There are workarounds for getting a 130mm wheel into a 126mm frame. Itís certainly easier than fitting a dual pivot caliper onto a disc brake rear triangle.
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
People love disc brakes because the work fantastic and are a definite improvement over the rim brakes of the past.
Disc brakes: heavier, more complex, upset the lateral balance of the bike, are more expensive, are less aero-dynamic. Caliper is closer to the road or trail.

Result of successful marketing:
"The truck backed up.., and everybody got in."
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Originally Posted by roadcrankr
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Insecurities ???...Do you really believe that I worry about what others think of my bikes ?



Wolfchild (and a few other posters) made their comments entirely tongue-in-cheek.
Then people don't understand the humor and practically jump all over them.
Come on, folks, figure it out...
I figured out long ago (along with many other regulars) that Wolfchild is an insecure forum troll. I'm an English Northerner, sarcasm is our specialist subject. Wolfchild doesn't do humour. Full stop.
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Dont see myself purchasing a disk brake bike in the next 10 years at least so its probably wise to keep the rim brake ones.
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Originally Posted by 1989Pre
Disc brakes: heavier, more complex, upset the lateral balance of the bike, are more expensive, are less aero-dynamic. Caliper is closer to the road or trail.

Result of successful marketing:
"The truck backed up.., and everybody got in."
No need to justify your personal choices with delusional thoughts. "Upsetting the lateral balance of tbe bike" is comedy gold.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyShow
Dont see myself purchasing a disk brake bike in the next 10 years at least so its probably wise to keep the rim brake ones.
That makes sense otherwise you will have no bikes to ride. No-brainer.
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