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Old 01-07-23, 06:53 PM
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I am keeping my rim brake bikes (2) and am keeping my disc brake bikes (2). Thank you for asking. (Sorry nothing controversial here).
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
Three whole days to spray degreaser onto the rotor and wipe them clean. I assume this would be a different pal than the one who would mock you for running disc brakes? Something is not adding up here.
Don’t forget that he thinks it’s $200 in shop time to replace a stem.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
It's the nature of disc brakes to squeal when wet. Almost impossible to eliminate the noise....It's strange that my disc brakes always squeal when wet, but my rim brakes are quiet.
Thicker brake rotors fixed that for me
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Originally Posted by DonkeyShow
Disk brakes are indeed rather ugly. The new dork disk perhaps?
Rim brakes on an older bike with classic lines, very aesthetically pleasing.

Rim brakes on a new bike? Out of place and low end looking.
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Have 3 bikes with rim brakes & 4 sets of replacement pads. When all the pads are worn out, I might consider discs, but I doubt it.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
I’ve been running discs on two bikes for over five years/28k miles and I can’t fathom why I’d ever need to sand my rotors, nor how it could possibly take an hour to change pads. And if your friend can’t keep his greasy mitts off his rotors, I’m wondering if he’s a bit clumsy(?)



Seems like your friend needs help.
I don't have a disc brake road bike but that's because I haven't bought a road bike in 11 years. I have ridden disc mountain bikes since 2008 and they have not been noisy except the current one does squeak when wet for a few seconds until the rotors dry a bit.

I think I can change the pads in under 5 minutes. I have changed them when heading out for a ride, doesn't take long at all.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Nearly all the preaching you get in rim vs disc brake threads is from old rim-brake diehards. They have a strong tendency to rubbish newer tech in order to justify their own choices. I rarely see this in reverse. People might well say that they prefer disc brakes to rim brakes, but it's rare to see them snarking at the older tech as if they are making a more savvy choice.
Wow this is a helluva skewed comment.
Many here have both types and comment that they like both, but find the rim brakes to be perfectly fine and they didn't feel a need to change. That then triggers someone who pushed back and Crest ss some absurd strawman, then the first poster who has both types of brakes is suddenly 'defending' rim brakes and is seen as a curmudgeon.

And your last sentence is straight up fiction. There are tons of posters who rip on rim brakes and declare disc to have better modulation or better stopping power fornjow/where they ride. Waxing poetically about one's preferences is seen on both sides.



This is coming from someone who has rim and disc for the top 2 used bikes. For the road, I have 0 interest in disc since my bike fits as is, stops when I want, and I can fit up to 35mm tires under the caliper brakes.
For gravel, I like the hydraulic disc more than cantilever.

That's really it. There needn't be some absurd stereotyping or claims aabout how others act which can be easily refuted.
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I have a number of disc-brake bikes all of them from the mid-1980s or early-1990s. Oddly they all have sidepull claiper brakes that engage the disc. You see, technically a rim-brake IS a disc-brake. LOL

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Originally Posted by rosefarts
Don’t forget that he thinks it’s $200 in shop time to replace a stem.
And for a guy who will walk in off the street and drop $15 Large on a velo, $300 is too much for the shop work.
Heck, at that price point, the fitting work is probably included.
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Originally Posted by Miele Man
I have a number of disc-brake bikes all of them from the mid-1980s or early-1990s. Oddly they all have sidepull claiper brakes that engage the disc. You see, technically a rim-brake IS a disc-brake. LOL

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Everyone understands the difference between rim brakes and disc brakes as the terms are presently used. What does one accomplish by referring to them both as disc brakes?
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Everyone understands the difference between rim brakes and disc brakes as the terms are presently used. What does one accomplish by referring to them both as disc brakes?
He wants you to know how big his Pedant is
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Old 01-08-23, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653
He wants you to know how big his Pedant is
I'm sure you can fit a bigger pedant on rim brakes.
Possibly one of the advantages.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
It's obvious that you are new around here and have not participated in or read threads about pedals, frame material, tubeless vs tubed tires, sock color and length, leg shaving. valve stem caps, serious cyclist vs cyclist vs bike rider and many others. Almost every topic discussed here is polarizing and will create a serious debate and arguments.
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Originally Posted by DonkeyShow
Disk brakes are indeed rather ugly. The new dork disk perhaps?
I think a big ol' pie plate spoke protector is beautiful on a vintage bike. And I think disks look a lot better on modern bikes and especially so on the plethora of blacked out bikes that have become so commonplace.

Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
Well, at least with dork discs you didn't have to spend an hour removing pads, sanding rotors and degreasing everything every time you accidentally touched your rotors with greasy paws.

My pal is currently going through hell trying to figure out how to stop the squeal on his discs, and actually get as much stopping power as he had on rim brakes. Day three and counting.
The solution is to not touch the disks even with clean hands. I don't have an issue keeping my "paws" away from my rotors so I would imagine it is a possibility your friend either didn't understand this or was careless in handling whatever he was working on. At any rate, someone's lack of skills doesn't make one brake system better than the other.
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Originally Posted by Chuck M
The solution is to not touch the disks even with clean hands. I don't have an issue keeping my "paws" away from my rotors so I would imagine it is a possibility your friend either didn't understand this or was careless in handling whatever he was working on. At any rate, someone's lack of skills doesn't make one brake system better than the other.
My pal is now on Day 5 of his quest to stop disc squealing and get some actually stopping power! Rotors degreased and sanded. Repeat several times. He's on the 3rd set of pads, under the assumption that they were irrecoverably contaminated. But, we see this at the shop every day.

I would counter that a braking systems lack of resilience to pilot error is in fact an indication of inferiority. Besides the general truism that on road bikes, discs are heavy, fussy and unnecessary.
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Originally Posted by Dave Mayer
I would counter that a braking systems lack of resilience to pilot error is in fact an indication of inferiority. Besides the general truism that on road bikes, discs are heavy, fussy and unnecessary.
You do realize that you’re not allowed to disagree with the groupthink that pervades this place, right?
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Wow this is a helluva skewed comment.
Many here have both types and comment that they like both, but find the rim brakes to be perfectly fine and they didn't feel a need to change. That then triggers someone who pushed back and Crest ss some absurd strawman, then the first poster who has both types of brakes is suddenly 'defending' rim brakes and is seen as a curmudgeon.

And your last sentence is straight up fiction. There are tons of posters who rip on rim brakes and declare disc to have better modulation or better stopping power fornjow/where they ride. Waxing poetically about one's preferences is seen on both sides.



This is coming from someone who has rim and disc for the top 2 used bikes. For the road, I have 0 interest in disc since my bike fits as is, stops when I want, and I can fit up to 35mm tires under the caliper brakes.
For gravel, I like the hydraulic disc more than cantilever.

That's really it. There needn't be some absurd stereotyping or claims aabout how others act which can be easily refuted.
Of course there are loads of rim brake guys and disc brake guys and guys with both types who don't preach. But I'm talking about the ones who actually do make a big deal out of it. It's nearly always rim brake diehards. You must have seen them in this thread already.
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I made the switch to disc brake frames just over 2 years ago, but I started with the SRAM Force AXS levers made for rim brake and Juin-Tech cable operated hydraulic calipers. Just this year, I sold off those parts from two bikes and made the switch to full hydraulic. I'm not fond of the idea of rim brakes and carbon wheels. Now I use 23 and 25mm internal width hookless rims on two disc brake bikes.

The big advantage with my disc brake frames is the ability to use 28-32mm tires at much lower air pressure, producing a better ride without increasing the rolling resistance.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
I'm talking about the ones who actually do make a big deal out of it. It's nearly always rim brake diehards. You must have seen them in this thread already.
it goes both ways, hence the 8 page thread.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Of course there are loads of rim brake guys and disc brake guys and guys with both types who don't preach. But I'm talking about the ones who actually do make a big deal out of it. It's nearly always rim brake diehards. You must have seen them in this thread already.
The thread topic asks those with rim brakes if they will keep rim brake bikes. Don't be surprised to then see people with rim brakes explaining why they will keep their rim brake bikes.


Yeah, there are some who make a big deal of it. And there are some on the forum who wax poetically about the virtues of disc and make it seem like before 2015, everyone was on the verge of launching off cliffs on their road bikes due to unsafe caliper brakes.
Your over the top claim was over the top. Attempting to justify it just allows for further discussion on how militant some are on the disc brake side of things too.
Meanwhile, there is an overwhelming group in the middle that has both and/or just isn't passionate, but gets lumped into claims made by the extreme.
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Originally Posted by Miele Man
I have a number of disc-brake bikes all of them from the mid-1980s or early-1990s. Oddly they all have sidepull claiper brakes that engage the disc. You see, technically a rim-brake IS a disc-brake. LOL

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8 pages of discussion took place before this ridiculous and overused comment was lobbed into the arena for viewing.
What a completely useless comment- really now, what is anyone supposed to do it this comment? Did it further any discussion? Did it help clarify anything?
It certainly isn't funny, in spite of you laughing st yourself.

I propose you never post this again as the forum will be better for it.
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The question is, will the rim brakes stop well while carrying a golf club, and how much chamois cream is necessary for the five minute ride?


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The question is, will the rim brakes stop well while carrying a golf club, and how much chamois cream is necessary for the five minute ride?


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