So much resistance to change
01-10-23, 12:54 PM
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So much resistance to change
What is it about the cycling community that is so resistance to change, and have such narrow minded attitudes. You can go back to 1934 when bents were banned from racing, because just one guy was winning all the races and time trials. Or maybe further back to about 1890 when the "safety bike" superseded the penny-farthling. Then come forward to the middle 80s when click shifting came out, most roadies claimed they would never use it. Also in that time frame mountain bikes were scoffed at in the beginning. Closer to this time frame, disc brakes were roundly put down, and some made it sound like in a crash, riders would be slashed so bad they would never ride again!!!! And lastly the huge out cry against bikes and trikes with electric motors. IMO almost all these things I have mentioned are huge advances, because it makes bikes better, easer to use for more people, safer, and increases the number of people that cycle.
Then we have the question of just who is a cyclist. The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist. IMO ANYONE that pedals a 1, 2, 3, or a 4 wheel machine is a cyclist. That includes little Susie and her sidewalk bike with training wheels.
So what are the thots of others on the forum???
Then we have the question of just who is a cyclist. The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist. IMO ANYONE that pedals a 1, 2, 3, or a 4 wheel machine is a cyclist. That includes little Susie and her sidewalk bike with training wheels.
So what are the thots of others on the forum???
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01-10-23, 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
Blather blah blah.....
So what are the thots of others on the forum???
So what are the thots of others on the forum???
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I am having a hard time thinking of the name of that poster who says that all the new stuff is worthless, just a corporate cash-grab .... 
Also, he is the only guy saying that one isn't a "Real" cyclist if one isn't one a high-priced bike in expensive kit. No one else says that.
These are not questions ... they are bait.
I will make popcorn.
Also, he is the only guy saying that one isn't a "Real" cyclist if one isn't one a high-priced bike in expensive kit. No one else says that.
These are not questions ... they are bait.
I will make popcorn.
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I'm really hard core but I can't afford a $5K bike or a $500 kit.
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01-10-23, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
So what are the thots of others on the forum???
01-10-23, 01:49 PM
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I’d like to try a tadpole.
That said, even if I like it I don’t see a recumbent as replacing any bike for what or why I ride bikes.
That said, even if I like it I don’t see a recumbent as replacing any bike for what or why I ride bikes.
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My favorite bike is a near $5000 ti custom that is inspired and ridden like the race bikes of 120 years ago. Same gear train and soon, same tires. (Well, skinnier, lighter and synthetic but the time honored construction. Sewups. Fix gear. Kit? Well, the leather topped traditionally cleated shoes now cost me $300, not $80 so I"m approaching your $500 for the kit.
I never left the DT friction shifter (except to go back a few decades).
Fix gears - simple and as pure as it gets. DT shifters - simple, very reliable and nothing to change out when changing drivetrains. Cable brakes simply work. Cheap, reliable, no check needed after a long period of disuse. (Light, aero and better looking also. Faster, easier wheel changes. Easier sharing wheels among bikes. Stuff you'd expect from newer and better.)
I never left the DT friction shifter (except to go back a few decades).
Fix gears - simple and as pure as it gets. DT shifters - simple, very reliable and nothing to change out when changing drivetrains. Cable brakes simply work. Cheap, reliable, no check needed after a long period of disuse. (Light, aero and better looking also. Faster, easier wheel changes. Easier sharing wheels among bikes. Stuff you'd expect from newer and better.)
01-10-23, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist.
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01-10-23, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
I'm really hard core but I can't afford a $5K bike or a $500 kit.
01-10-23, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist. ??
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
I'm looking hard at a bike that costs just $4999 which comes in just under the OP's trigger warning price.
...unless you spend at least $1 more.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Name one single person who has ever claimed this ever?
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Originally Posted by epnnf
OP, I agree completely
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
I'm looking hard at a bike that costs just $4999 which comes in just under the OP's trigger warning price.
01-10-23, 02:52 PM
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The first thing that comes to mind with recumbents is an old man walking hunched over with a cane.
01-10-23, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
You can't be serious...
...unless you spend at least $1 more.
...unless you spend at least $1 more.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Rydabent.
01-10-23, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rydabent
The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist.
This is total nonsense.
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Originally Posted by Reflector Guy
The hard part would be to come up with another one.
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Originally Posted by rydabent
The really hard core claim that unless you ride a $5000 bike, and have $500 kit you really are not a cyclist.
Originally Posted by msu2001la
This is total nonsense.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Yeah, everyone knows it's at least double that amount.
Years ago (early-2000s), the owner of a LBS got a call from an insurance adjuster regarding a claim by one of their customers for replacement of a damaged high-end bicycle. The insurance adjuster refused to believe that ANY bicycle could possibly cost more than $1000.
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