Shouldn't Bike Shorts And Saddles Work Together?
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I might be stating the obvious, but bike short design and manufacturing is driven by Big Pad.
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That said, I have owned one (1) pair of shorts where the pad was so stiff that it put pressure on my correctly located testicles. Also not a common problem.
Ever notice how forums are full of relatively new folks to the hobby that are convinced they know better than all the long time people? Why do they know better?
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FWIW, OP- I understand your problem. However I dont have the answer. I just find some cheap saddle that works for me. Shorts are all the same. I position my junk resting on top of saddle, not under my body getting crushed. YMMV
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Your shorts should be snug enough that, once you have them on, they stay where you put 'em, which should be up out of the way. If yours aren't, U R doin' it wrong.
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I would be interested in a show or hands where this is an issue. Mr Eagle counts as 1.
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This guy has the same problem:-

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I have problems with thickly padded shorts, so I buy shorts with thin pads. I accept the proposition that the pads wick moisture away, which is a Good Thing, so I'm good with triathlon shorts, Boures, even Voler. I'm sure there are other manufacturers who use thinner pads, but I stop looking when I find something that works - I don't like shopping.
Shorts haven't always been this way. Cyclists used to wear wool shorts with real chamois. The wool was thick, but the chamois was thinner than the pad of any modern shorts I've seen. (Chamois and wool have numerous pluses and minuses when compared to modern shorts, but that's not the topic of this thread.) The chamois didn't wick moisture away; rather, I believe, moisture on the chamois reduced the leg and groin friction of pedaling.
Shorts haven't always been this way. Cyclists used to wear wool shorts with real chamois. The wool was thick, but the chamois was thinner than the pad of any modern shorts I've seen. (Chamois and wool have numerous pluses and minuses when compared to modern shorts, but that's not the topic of this thread.) The chamois didn't wick moisture away; rather, I believe, moisture on the chamois reduced the leg and groin friction of pedaling.
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Back in about 1969 I bought my first derailleur bike, a new Raleigh Super-Course with a Brooks B-17 saddle on it. I had hitchhiked up to the bike shop, bought the thing, and rode it 20 miles home, learning how to shift as I went.
Back then, about the only thing I ever wore below the waist was close-fitting jeans over tighty-whities.
I remember the dealer saying something ominous as I rolled it out the door, to the effect of how I'd like it once the saddle broke in "... or your ass breaks."
I never did figure out what he was talking about; I got many consecutive hours of enjoyment out of that bike and never once suffered any crotch damage or even discomfort worth mentioning.
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I have problems with thickly padded shorts, so I buy shorts with thin pads. I accept the proposition that the pads wick moisture away, which is a Good Thing, so I'm good with triathlon shorts, Boures, even Voler. I'm sure there are other manufacturers who use thinner pads, but I stop looking when I find something that works - I don't like shopping.
Shorts haven't always been this way. Cyclists used to wear wool shorts with real chamois. The wool was thick, but the chamois was thinner than the pad of any modern shorts I've seen. (Chamois and wool have numerous pluses and minuses when compared to modern shorts, but that's not the topic of this thread.) The chamois didn't wick moisture away; rather, I believe, moisture on the chamois reduced the leg and groin friction of pedaling.
Shorts haven't always been this way. Cyclists used to wear wool shorts with real chamois. The wool was thick, but the chamois was thinner than the pad of any modern shorts I've seen. (Chamois and wool have numerous pluses and minuses when compared to modern shorts, but that's not the topic of this thread.) The chamois didn't wick moisture away; rather, I believe, moisture on the chamois reduced the leg and groin friction of pedaling.
I thought I had problems with thickly padded shorts, but it turns out the real problem wasn't the thickness of the pad, but rather the design. The thick pads I'd experienced put too much directly under the sit bones, which accentuated rather than mitigated the pressure there. I also found that I'd move around on the saddle, usually sliding forward and the having to push myself back. So I stuck with less expensive, less thickly padded shorts. Then I saw a sale on LeCol's 'Hors Categorie' bib shorts - half price! I bought two pair, figuring if I didn't like 'em I could send back the unused one. Oh. My. God. They are SO comfortable! The padding is thick, but well designed. No pressure where I don't want it, no focus of pressure on the sit bones, no sliding around the saddle.
I'm waiting for them to go on sale again, so I can replace all my old Louis Garneaus.
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Also, I'm 62 years old, and I've been cycling for 55 years. Does that make me "new to the hobby?"
Just because someone doesn't have as high a post count as you, doesn't make them "new to the hobby." It might just mean that they're out riding more than you are and spending less time on this forum.
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Ever notice that my join date was before yours?
Also, I'm 62 years old, and I've been cycling for 55 years. Does that make me "new to the hobby?"
Just because someone doesn't have as high a post count as you, doesn't make them "new to the hobby." It might just mean that they're out riding more than you are and spending less time on this forum.
Also, I'm 62 years old, and I've been cycling for 55 years. Does that make me "new to the hobby?"
Just because someone doesn't have as high a post count as you, doesn't make them "new to the hobby." It might just mean that they're out riding more than you are and spending less time on this forum.
As many of us have stated, you are essentially wearing your shorts wrong and sitting on your testicles. I have no idea why that seems to be controversial to you - which is why I opined that you must be new to cycling
Please stop sitting on your balls.
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One of my frustrations with saddles and bike shorts is that they often seem to be working against each other.
The saddle manufacturers logically try to remove pressure from the crotch area through the use of cutouts and complex curves. On the other hand, the bike shorts manufacturers (who are often the same company) seem to be working against that by placing padding right back in those same areas. The result is pressure coming from the shorts padding instead of the seat padding. Different cause, same result.
It seems to me like shorts manufacturers should have padding under the sit bones only, and NONE in the crotch area, but I have yet to find a pair of shorts like that. Does anyone know of any?
The saddle manufacturers logically try to remove pressure from the crotch area through the use of cutouts and complex curves. On the other hand, the bike shorts manufacturers (who are often the same company) seem to be working against that by placing padding right back in those same areas. The result is pressure coming from the shorts padding instead of the seat padding. Different cause, same result.
It seems to me like shorts manufacturers should have padding under the sit bones only, and NONE in the crotch area, but I have yet to find a pair of shorts like that. Does anyone know of any?
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[QUOTE=bike eagle;22771734]Ever notice that my join date was before yours? Also, I'm 62 years old, and I've been cycling for 55 years. Does that make me "new to the hobby?" /QUOTE]
I can't imagine sitting on my testicles for 55 years and only now asking what to do about the discomfort. "Millions" left cycling? I doubt your statistics.
It's also amazing how many people, newcomers or long-time members, come to the forum asking for advice or input and reject every comment that doesn't agree with what they already believe.
I can't imagine sitting on my testicles for 55 years and only now asking what to do about the discomfort. "Millions" left cycling? I doubt your statistics.
It's also amazing how many people, newcomers or long-time members, come to the forum asking for advice or input and reject every comment that doesn't agree with what they already believe.
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I think the biggest not-work-together thing was embroidered saddles. Great for trashing expensive bibs. Conspiracy? You be the judge.