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Why does a simple water bottle cost over $10 now?

Old 01-12-23, 09:13 PM
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Maybe the water bottles are made from eggs.
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Old 01-12-23, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by BTinNYC
Maybe the water bottles are made from eggs.
Excellent point.

But last time I checked, birds and many reptiles and amphibians are made from eggs. Water bottles, like airplanes, may look like they hatch from eggs, but they are not in fact live vertebrate animals, despite superficial similarities.
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Old 01-12-23, 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Seriously. Most US households have Prime.

https://techjury.net/blog/amazon-prime-statistics/#gref.
I'm thinking there will be one fewer in the next renewal period. When I order small ticket bike part stuff, I have recently been getting packages with nothing inside them, or, in the last instance, two right hand Time cleats.

I get the Rene Herse bottles for $10 each when I order new tires.
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Old 01-12-23, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Seriously. Most US households have Prime.

https://techjury.net/blog/amazon-prime-statistics/#gref.
6 in 10 households have had Prime lasts year because Amazon offers free Prime trial memberships all the time. I had it twice. That has little to do with the number of people that maintain Prime memberships.
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Old 01-12-23, 10:15 PM
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Did a search on Amazon, “Bicycle Water Bottles”, and put the maximum value of $10 and it returned a couple of dozen bottles. If you enter $12 (inflation since the old days) you get dozens more. So they do exist if you search. But then just about everything cost more from 10 years ago.
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Old 01-13-23, 02:22 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed
People buy water bottles? I thought they came as swag at outdoor functions.
Yeah, they give them away everywhere. I've got dozens of them.
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Old 01-13-23, 02:33 AM
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buying stuff like you're after online will likely be much cheaper.
The LBS is 3x to what Amazon sells the same thing for.

Originally Posted by Trakhak
Sorry to continue the thread, but:

For the last 20 years or so I've bought 24-oz bottles of Gatorade to use on the bike. Clear, with a twist-open nozzle, fits snugly in a bottle cage. Cost is about $2.50, but you get free Gatorade, or a free bottle, depending on how you look at it.

Earlier versions used plastic that eventually became brittle and cracked, but the current bottles are far more durable. The ones I'm using now have already lasted a few years, with no sign that they'll deteriorate any time soon.

The only problem is that very few convenience stores carry the 24-oz sport bottles these days for some mysterious reason.
I noticed that too. I now try to catch a bundle of them on sale at Meijer or Kroger. Powerade "kids pak" seems to be easier to find at a local liquor store.
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If...I mean when...I get that $14,000 bike from another thread, then I need to get an expensive water bottle. I think it's a law.

But for now, I am trying to figure out if it is ok to ride outside with a Zwift water bottle.
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Old 01-13-23, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by dedhed
People buy water bottles? I thought they came as swag at outdoor functions.
That's where I get mine. I even have some with different colored tops.
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Old 01-13-23, 08:49 AM
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The $10 and above bottles are weight balanced so you can better attempt the water bottle/bidon flip.

The water bottle flip..who can do it and can you tell me how?
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Old 01-13-23, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Kontact
6 in 10 households have had Prime lasts year because Amazon offers free Prime trial memberships all the time. I had it twice. That has little to do with the number of people that maintain Prime memberships.
But it has everything to do with the number (or %) of households that can access the free shipping, which is what we’re talking about.
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Old 01-13-23, 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets
I lost my vintage Exceed water bottle when I knocked it off my bookshelf and it landed on the desk below and shattered!
I bought a 72 Condor from a guy that bought it new from the shop in England. It had been sitting in storage for some time. He sent it back to the factory in the mid 80s to have the rear respaced, and some add ons brazed on. They did the work, repainted/redecaled it and sent it back. He then upgraded it through the years. He kept all the parts/stuff that was associated with the bike from the beginning, including the plastic bags from the factory store and the Condor labeled water bottle. When I tried to remove it from the bottle holder(which is a vintage allara brand BTW) it shattered like yours. I still have the vintage Condor factory store bags. The coolest thing that came with it is a 57T Campy chainring that the PO used for TTing.
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Old 01-13-23, 09:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
But it has everything to do with the number (or %) of households that can access the free shipping, which is what we’re talking about.
Exactly.
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Old 01-13-23, 09:52 AM
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An Aquafina water bottle from the gas station fits my water bottle holder perfectly and I don't feel bad about tossing it in the trash when it eventually gets all scratched from being in the holder. And it comes with the first fill-up of water included!
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Originally Posted by dedhed
People buy water bottles? I thought they came as swag at outdoor functions.
I'm going to guess those organized group rides you pay $XXX for are enjoyable to you for what you pay, and you're not going on them just to pay $XXX for a branded water bottle. Back in my youthful days I would do 10K and marathon runs. They were pretty cheap to enter, usually run by a non-profit group to raise funds,, and gave away little-to-no swag; you'd have to buy a t-shirt, mug or other goodies separately from the entry fee. I'd even volunteer to work at some of them if I wasn't running. I stopped going to those when the organizers running them became commercial 'for profit' business that severely raised up the prices, brought in paid commercial sponsors (vendors paying for a display spot or advertsing banners along a route), beer gardens, live entertainment, etc, and the 'for profit' business would try and recruit volunteer labor to staff the event. Crazy, not worth it anymore.
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beer gardens...not worth it anymore.
The devil you say!
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Old 01-13-23, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by skidder
I'm going to guess those organized group rides you pay $XXX for are enjoyable to you for what you pay, and you're not going on them just to pay $XXX for a branded water bottle. Back in my youthful days I would do 10K and marathon runs. They were pretty cheap to enter, usually run by a non-profit group to raise funds,, and gave away little-to-no swag; you'd have to buy a t-shirt, mug or other goodies separately from the entry fee. I'd even volunteer to work at some of them if I wasn't running. I stopped going to those when the organizers running them became commercial 'for profit' business that severely raised up the prices, brought in paid commercial sponsors (vendors paying for a display spot or advertsing banners along a route), beer gardens, live entertainment, etc, and the 'for profit' business would try and recruit volunteer labor to staff the event. Crazy, not worth it anymore.
A lot of mine came from volunteering at climbing comps my kids were in, as well as promo items from manufacturers and vendors at work
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The only problem with cheap water bottles and freebies is that they may not be BPA-free. I don’t like ingesting cancer causing chemicals and only use certified BPA-free bottles - but that is after decades of using BPA laced bottles. But I am just a touch smarter now.
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200 Big Mouth 21 oz bottles for $600, including custom logo printing.

$3 a piece. Who wants to go in on a purchase?
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This is my idea of the quintessential touring bike. Take note of his water bottles.
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Originally Posted by skidder
I'm going to guess those organized group rides you pay $XXX for are enjoyable to you for what you pay, and you're not going on them just to pay $XXX for a branded water bottle. Back in my youthful days I would do 10K and marathon runs. They were pretty cheap to enter, usually run by a non-profit group to raise funds,, and gave away little-to-no swag; you'd have to buy a t-shirt, mug or other goodies separately from the entry fee. I'd even volunteer to work at some of them if I wasn't running. I stopped going to those when the organizers running them became commercial 'for profit' business that severely raised up the prices, brought in paid commercial sponsors (vendors paying for a display spot or advertsing banners along a route), beer gardens, live entertainment, etc, and the 'for profit' business would try and recruit volunteer labor to staff the event. Crazy, not worth it anymore.
I always gauge organized rides/races by what I come home with. "Of course I love this shirt, it cost me $90."

There's a couple of $200 rides coming up that I'm tempted to do, but DANG $200!!!
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Originally Posted by Chuck Naill


This is my idea of the quintessential touring bike. Take note of his water bottles.
I just bring one bottle these days, and hydration bladders. Sometimes I worry about hydration bladders failing, but I've only had one get a slow leak. BITD I did lose 2 liters of water from a bottle. I had two 2-liters in my trunk bag, I'd finished one and when I went to fill my water bottle from the second 2-liter bottle I noticed my trunk bag was all wet and only about 200 ml left in there This being a 120-mile ride out in the desert, I was really looking forward to that water. Luckily an hour later I came upon the mobile home of a Navajo preacher, and he kept bragging "Oh yeah, this is even city water!" and gave me some hominy casserole to eat also.
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Originally Posted by Chuck Naill


This is my idea of the quintessential touring bike. Take note of his water bottles.
How much does a rig like that weigh without the rider?
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this sub forum has become the Road Cycling sub forum.

Retail pricing has many factors that users like Koyote seem to not grasp. The OP is seeing bottles above the $10 price range so he asks a question. He wonders why. Sort answer is many factors. Cost of inventory, cost of handeling, costs of distribution, costs of materials. profit margin, changes due to economies of scale. I'm sure there are other factors. Consider the cost of a simple fastener at your local hardware store. It wasn't that long ago that a single washer was pennies....now much more but then wages are far greater as is everything else. Electronic infrastructure in retail establishments is also a cost.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
But it doesn’t cost over $10 now.


I thought it was that the point goes over your head, not that you go over the point's head?
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