actual cost to build a $14,000 bike
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Originally Posted by Chuck Naill
I preferred the first picture of the bike.
The first is my DD
The second is my "road bike"
01-16-23, 04:31 PM
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Given all the hoopla I decided to look into recumbent bikes, I kept coming up with these. How you you get anywhere on one?
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Originally Posted by rydabent
So does any one know what the actual cost of a $14,000 bike is to the mfg?
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Also what is the huge difference between a $5000 bike and a $14,000 bike?
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I don't feel like participating in this thread.
01-16-23, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Rolla
They're exactly the same, and you're a genius for not falling for Big Cycling's nefarious scheme.
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Originally Posted by big john
I can't believe you guys are doing this again. The other thread is still in the top ten.
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01-16-23, 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by big john
I can't believe you guys are doing this again. The other thread is still in the top ten.
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01-16-23, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
OP knows how to catch fish! I'm actually a little jealous sometimes...
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
Actual cost to build a $14,000 bike ... on my planet.
So much resistance to change ... is my life philosophy.
The most underrated thing about bents and trikes ... is you're close to the ground when you fall over.
Is it really a conundrum ... why I annoy so many people?
When will they ever learn ... not to fall for my troll threads?
So what will be the "newest" thing in gearing ... derailleurs?
Time to diversify ... I'm going to troll a new sub forum.
It just doesn't make any sense ... how can everyone else on the planet disagree with me?
Bike mileage ... and why people who don't ride bents are stupid.
A couple of things I don't understand ... about getting along with other people.
Tubes losing air tip ... like me, fill them with hot air.
You know you are slowing down ... when I catch up with you.
A little good news ... my internet service is being disconnected tomorrow.
Be nice ... or you'll end up like me.
So much resistance to change ... is my life philosophy.
The most underrated thing about bents and trikes ... is you're close to the ground when you fall over.
Is it really a conundrum ... why I annoy so many people?
When will they ever learn ... not to fall for my troll threads?
So what will be the "newest" thing in gearing ... derailleurs?
Time to diversify ... I'm going to troll a new sub forum.
It just doesn't make any sense ... how can everyone else on the planet disagree with me?
Bike mileage ... and why people who don't ride bents are stupid.
A couple of things I don't understand ... about getting along with other people.
Tubes losing air tip ... like me, fill them with hot air.
You know you are slowing down ... when I catch up with you.
A little good news ... my internet service is being disconnected tomorrow.
Be nice ... or you'll end up like me.
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01-16-23, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Kontact
A few hundred dollars.
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A $14k Aethis maybe cost Merida and Shimano a grand at most. A pair of handmade shoes probably takes more labor hours.
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01-16-23, 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
This is what I love about bf: people can just pull things out of their asses, providing zero evidence, and try to pass it off as fact.
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01-16-23, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
Why not pick a specific example of a $14K bike in which the vendor (Trek, Specialized, Giant, Scott, whomever) lists the individual components.
Then look up the price of each component or group-set, and write it down.
Then add up the prices of each of the individual items.
If the frame is available separately, you can add that in. Otherwise you will have to guestimate. (Maybe start with $4K for a very high-end carbon frame.) Add in that price.
Now add it a few hundred bucks for assembly.
Finally, don't forget the import taxes that agent orange imposed.
Then look up the price of each component or group-set, and write it down.
Then add up the prices of each of the individual items.
If the frame is available separately, you can add that in. Otherwise you will have to guestimate. (Maybe start with $4K for a very high-end carbon frame.) Add in that price.
Now add it a few hundred bucks for assembly.
Finally, don't forget the import taxes that agent orange imposed.
What is the production cost differences between bikes that cost 2, 5, 10 or 14k retail?
Not much.
Engineering, tooling, testing a new mid level vs top bike - not much difference there either.
I think that is the OP's point.
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Originally Posted by veganbikes
What about a $19k recumbent combine everything together. Some of those Velomobiles are pretty expensive.
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Originally Posted by Chuck Naill
The actual cost is $1508.17.
01-16-23, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Eric F
87.3% of data posted on the internet is made up by the poster.
Not to mention that most will never need or be improved by more $ spent.
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Originally Posted by Jughed
That would get you retail prices - not the production costs.
What is the production cost differences between bikes that cost 2, 5, 10 or 14k retail?
Not much.
Engineering, tooling, testing a new mid level vs top bike - not much difference there either.
I think that is the OP's point.
What is the production cost differences between bikes that cost 2, 5, 10 or 14k retail?
Not much.
Engineering, tooling, testing a new mid level vs top bike - not much difference there either.
I think that is the OP's point.
01-16-23, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by genejockey
More money gets you higher grades of carbon fiber, and a different and more complex layup which, which is done by hand, as well as the engineering and design that allows it to be made. And what are you but 11 gallons of water and a few bucks worth of chemicals?
https://www.cstsales.com/uni_carbon_fabric.html
Does this explain thousands of dollars of difference in price?
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Originally Posted by Kontact
Here's a site where you can compare the cost of ordinary and high modulus CF.
https://www.cstsales.com/uni_carbon_fabric.html
Does this explain thousands of dollars of difference in price?
https://www.cstsales.com/uni_carbon_fabric.html
Does this explain thousands of dollars of difference in price?
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Butt numbers!
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Originally Posted by genejockey
I can't wait till he finds out how cheap aluminum is and tells us that Ferrari engine should only cost $500.
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Originally Posted by ThermionicScott
Totally adding that to my lexicon.
How can a $14,000 bicycle possibly be worth the money?
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