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Old 01-22-23, 08:25 PM
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I usually have one beer a week, a social beer with my riding buds after the ride. I find that one beer kills the pain in my legs. However that's the only day of the week when I go hard enough to need that beer, so that's it for my drinking.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Beer has no more than 5% alcohol,
Patently false. If you're drinking Miller or Bud, sure, it's under 5%. At my local taproom, which typically has 7-8 different beers on tap, I don't think I've ever seen one that is under 5%.
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Patently false. If you're drinking Miller or Bud, sure, it's under 5%. At my local taproom, which typically has 7-8 different beers on tap, I don't think I've ever seen one that is under 5%.
+1 Many Portland microbrews are a lot more than 5%. In fact, on many boards at pubs, 5% stands out; it is so low.

Edit: Now in my college sailboat racing days, we traveled to at least one state where the beer was 3.2%. A long time ago.
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Patently false. If you're drinking Miller or Bud, sure, it's under 5%. At my local taproom, which typically has 7-8 different beers on tap, I don't think I've ever seen one that is under 5%.
Heck there are beers at 40% and up if you want to go crazy. 3 of those like say the BrewMeister Snake Venom and you will be on your keester pretty quick.
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Old 01-22-23, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 79pmooney View Post
+1 Many Portland microbrews are a lot more than 5%. In fact, on many boards at pubs, 5% stands out; it is so low.

Edit: Now in my college sailboat racing days, we traveled to at least one state where the beer was 3.2%. A long time ago.
Grocery store beer in Utah was 3.2% for years. That only changed in 2020.

Colorado was 3.2 until about that time.

I think that was also popular in the Midwest.

Kentucky had dry counties up until pretty recently too.
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Old 01-23-23, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by rosefarts View Post
Grocery store beer in Utah was 3.2% for years. That only changed in 2020.

Colorado was 3.2 until about that time.

I think that was also popular in the Midwest.

Kentucky had dry counties up until pretty recently too.
Whats really wild is three-two beer was/is actually about 4% alcohol by volume.

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Old 01-23-23, 08:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Doge View Post
Some people drink and post. That might be a problem for them. .
At least they have an excuse!
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Old 01-23-23, 09:09 AM
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I stopped drinking 8 years ago at the age of 55.

​​​​​​At the highest daily consumption level I was up to 2 IPAs per day.

It occurred to me that drinking in my mountain biking culture was normal. People would talk about what beer they would have and how good it would be during a ride. The rides almost became an excuse to drink even as the rides became shorter and started later and later.

A pattern emerged which I couldn't ignore.

​​​​​​Bike races became beer centric and it seemed the inflating entry fees were offset by the beer being served.

In the years leading up to me quitting drinking altogether I became involved in mountain bike culture as a trail builder and advocate on a volunteer level. I was very involved. I even sought free beer for events and was successful.

It dawned upon even through my thick skull that serving beer and food to people after a hard day of trail work or riding and sending them home driving was not good.

In years before that I used to drink a beer or two and drive home afterwards as well.

Luckily I never had a DUI or cause harm, but I realized that was irresponsible. I stopped drinking after rides at a trailhead when I learned that it was illegal for me. That was around 2007.

Some riders I know post photos of the beers they drink after a ride.

I do not drink anymore for a lot of reasons.
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Originally Posted by rosefarts View Post
Kentucky had dry counties up until pretty recently too.
Even in 2023 Kentucky still has a number of "dry" counties. That doesn't mean it is illegal to drink alcohol. It just can't be sold there.
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Patently false. If you're drinking Miller or Bud, sure, it's under 5%. At my local taproom, which typically has 7-8 different beers on tap, I don't think I've ever seen one that is under 5%.
Large majority of beers which i purchase have alcohol content between 4.2% - 6.5 %. I actually prefer the ones with lower alcohol content, the stronger ones I drink only occasionally..
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Large majority of beers which i purchase have alcohol content between 4.2% - 6.5 %.
Then why did you make this claim:

Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Beer has no more than 5% alcohol,
You should really get your story straight.
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Originally Posted by Sorcerer View Post

It occurred to me that drinking in my mountain biking culture was normal. People would talk about what beer they would have and how good it would be during a ride.
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My experience with mountain biking culture has been a little different. Too much weed. I always refused and ended up offending some of the people who smoked that stuff....These were grown up mature adults and not teenagers or some 20 year olds. I eventually stopped participating in their group rides and started riding alone.
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Old 01-23-23, 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote View Post
Then why did you make this claim:
Large majority of beer brands are around 5% alcohol content. Give or take 0.5 %/
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Large majority of beer brands are around 5% alcohol content. Give or take 0.5 %/
Can you see the difference between the above statement and this statement that you made earlier in the thread:

Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
Beer has no more than 5% alcohol, hard liquor is 40% alcohol, that's a big difference.
Those are two very different statements.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
My experience with mountain biking culture has been a little different. Too much weed. I always refused and ended up offending some of the people who smoked that stuff....These were grown up mature adults and not teenagers or some 20 year olds. I eventually stopped participating in their group rides and started riding alone.
Same here.

Didn't bring that up because of the thread topic. Also these activities used to be taboo at certain events.

​​​​​​The lads and some gals too would often call them safety breaks. I began to skip group rides that were more about a party atmosphere than actually doing epic rides.

Now I'm no saint or anything. I think it's fine for people to do what they want as long as it's responsible and in respect of the context.

​​​​​​I should probably go back and read all the pages in this thread. I skipped a few pages.
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i have never actually drank, but i do have to admit you all are funny to read
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Originally Posted by wolfchild View Post
This has nothing to do with health. Anytime a topic of alcohol comes up it becomes a moral debate.
I'm in a family of doctors. It's definitely about health. Regular people don't necessarily realize how nasty that stuff is, but doctors see it on the daily. And most problems alcohol causes are a result of "mild" or "civilized" daily drinking habits. One or two or three glasses of wine or beers a day with dinner etc.

If we take your example of three beers a day and they're 0.33l cans, that alcohol amount equals to 3.5 desiliters of pure alcohol, three and a half bottles of wine or more than one bottle of vodka a week.

If those are 0.5 liter or near pint beers, we're talking six bottles of wine or two bottles of vodka every week.
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i have never actually drank...
*drunk
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i have never had an alcoholic beverage, but this thread tickles my funny bones?
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I have not found drinking to be any more or less prevalent in the folks I have ridden with than the other folks in my life or the general population. On long distance tours the majority did not drink, but a minority did want a few beers or a few stiff drinks in the evening. Mountain biking... No one I rode with drank when they rode. Some may have drunk after, but not a majority, or at least not a majority drank to excess.

At festivals and other big events the drinking more common and heavy, but even there often most of the drinking was at the end of the festival at a big party and even then it wasn't usually a big drunken bash. I suspect that something like RAGBRAI probably involves more drinking, but I don't have first hand experience with that kind of ride.
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Saw this statistic on the PBS News Hour last night:

American adults get drunk 23 times per year on average.

And this tidbit, from the CDC (2010):

Excessive alcohol use in the United States costs every man, woman, and child $807 per year. Costs were due to workplace productivity, health care, law enforcement, vehicle crashes.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse View Post
Saw this statistic on the PBS News Hour last night:

American adults get drunk 23 times per year on average.

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Every two weeks, get blasted at Mardi Gras, give up alcohol for Lent. Repeat.
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stopped at a bar at a turnaround one time. had a beer & a bowl of chili. not the greatest combo for bike riding back to my car
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I don't often drink but when I do I prefer the real thing

so, this

not this
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Originally Posted by elcruxio View Post
I'm in a family of doctors. It's definitely about health. Regular people don't necessarily realize how nasty that stuff is, but doctors see it on the daily. And most problems alcohol causes are a result of "mild" or "civilized" daily drinking habits. One or two or three glasses of wine or beers a day with dinner etc.

If we take your example of three beers a day and they're 0.33l cans, that alcohol amount equals to 3.5 desiliters of pure alcohol, three and a half bottles of wine or more than one bottle of vodka a week.

If those are 0.5 liter or near pint beers, we're talking six bottles of wine or two bottles of vodka every week.
Yeah, I think there's a big difference between drinking occasionally - say a couple of glasses of wine when out for a meal once in a while and habitual daily drinking. The latter seems to get normalised by those who do it. I've known people who go through a bottle of wine, or equivalent units of beer pretty much every evening and think nothing of it. They just don't perceive it to be a long-term problem if it isn't affecting their daily life. Some even believe it's good for their health and mental well-being.
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