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Bottle Cage Dilemma with New Steel Double-Wall Bottles

Old 02-01-23, 11:48 PM
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Bottle Cage Dilemma with New Steel Double-Wall Bottles

All my bikes are outfitted with standard design stainless steel bottle cages. For decades, they worked fine with my plastic bottles.
However, I've found my new stainless steel double wall bottle to be superior and I stick it in the old holder and I get continual undesirable noise I don't like during rides.

Has anybody found a cheap fix? Neoprene sleeves? And if so, where to find...

Thanks in advance!
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Old 02-02-23, 12:31 AM
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Metal on metal will always be noisy put plastic cages on, they work fine and will cut down the noise.
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Old 02-02-23, 12:59 AM
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wrap the bottle with some thiccccc vinyl wrapping.
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This sounds like a good excuse to get some nice, stiff carbon cages.
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Wrap some of the Bottle with Colored with Electrical Tape
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Put the bottle in a gold ole white cotton Sock, :-) has added advantage of it being another layer of insulation, keeping your beverage Warm or Cold maybe longer? : -)
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I bet you could do a neat and tight wrap with an inner tube strip across the cage top and finish with a sailor's whip. Same at the cage bottom. I bet with careful placement you would only need about 2 or 3 inches of wrap. Done well, it should last years.
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Old 02-02-23, 03:06 PM
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Use Camelbak Podium bottles. I have tried steel bottles for a while and really wanted to love them for cycling but I don't like something I cannot easily get water out of. For me I don't like to stop on most rides to get water. Longer rides yes I am fine with a break but commuting and such I don't have the time to stop and drink and put the cap back on and keep going and really don't want to put my lips on a bottle ever. Camelbak is the way to go. I get the reasons for Klean Kanteens and have a couple and used them frequently but they aren't ideal for cycling even with the sport cap. Great bottles for trekking and other adventuring and certainly daily life but cycling the Camelbak reigns supreme. It doesn't hold any flavors or impart them, they last and last and last and are easy to drink from without touching the lid becuase of all that I really typically just rinse it out and every so often clean the caps or clean the outsides when dirty and I don't like the taste of bad water.
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I've done a couple things: wrap electrical tape around the cage wires; or split some vinyl tubing that will fit the cage wires lengthwise and slip them on. Use only enough to stop the noise.
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I made CF holders. Still need a sock to stop the rattle and hold the Gatorade bottles/ Kleen Canteen snug. The ice will be good for 5 or 6 hours.
I only use non-spout tops.
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Maybe this is a little too precious, but I change out from a metal cage to a polycarbonate cage seasonally, so that when I’m using my vacuum-insulated, double-wall stainless steel Elite Deboyo Race bottle in the winter to carry hot tea— what a treat!— it doesn’t rattle.

I like the Supacaz Fly Cage Poly:

https://supacaz.com/product/fly-cage...neon-purple-2/

I like the look of my rainbow anodized Ti Fly cages better, though, so I put them— well, the one that got swapped— when I’m back to plastic bottles in the Spring. It’s a bit of work, but taken as part of winter maintenance and “spring cleaning,” it’s not burdensome. It does scuff my anodized aluminum cage bolts, though; I should go Ti there…
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Cut a short section out of an old tube (many of us have piles of them saved for repair or for various bodges) and stretch it over the bottle. A thin-walled, tightly stretched section should stay in place when the bottle is inserted or removed.
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
Put the bottle in a gold ole white cotton Sock, :-) has added advantage of it being another layer of insulation, keeping your beverage Warm or Cold maybe longer? : -)
Now here's a bike forum winter topic:

The company in New York that imported Zeus bikes and other European bike products stocked bottle covers. As I remember it, the covers were sold only in black.

Maybe they were more concerned with keeping the water from freezing in the winter than with keeping it cool in the summer. That conjecture isn't entirely satisfying, though. Any ideas?
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
Put the bottle in a gold ole white cotton Sock, :-) has added advantage of it being another layer of insulation, keeping your beverage Warm or Cold maybe longer? : -)
Haven't you heard cotton kills? You need to put it in a wool sock in the winter.
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https://www.amazon.com/bottle-koozie...bottle+koozies

might find something in that link..
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Wrap the cage or the bottle in self-sealing silicone tape (electrical tape might get gunky on a hot day).
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Originally Posted by Troul
https://www.amazon.com/bottle-koozie...bottle+koozies

might find something in that link..
tHX!

NEOPRENE BOTTLE SLEEVES!

https://www.amazon.com/Neoprene-Slee...dDbGljaz10cnVl
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Originally Posted by Eds0123
Put the bottle in a gold ole white cotton Sock, :-) has added advantage of it being another layer of insulation, keeping your beverage Warm or Cold maybe longer? : -)
Perfect! Old gym socks!

My mom always reminded me to wash them ...
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For narrower-diameter bottles (16 ounce) placed in standard bottle cages, neoprene sleeves seem to work well.

My problem is with the 24 ounce bottles that are slightly larger in diameter than the decades-old "standard" water bottle diameter. I have a couple cages that I've "creatively adjusted" to fit these bottles, but the added weight + fatigue vulnerability from the "adjustments" has resulted in a few failures. I've discovered some plastic cages such as the older Trek and Specialized ones will bend/stretch to accommodate fatter bottles, but have a tendency to gradually eject empty bottles, as happened to me last Saturday on a ride. The plastic Zefal cages seem to be happy with fat bottles, along with the "universal ones" using an adjustable strap for confinement, but the strap-type ones don't work well for easy/fast access.
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Originally Posted by pdlamb
Haven't you heard cotton kills? You need to put it in a wool sock in the winter.
Yes, my bad, I apologize, Cotton both kills winter and in summer times, I should have said wool or acrylic synthetic fiber type sock ☺️
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