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Old 03-04-23, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
I just did that. Not only did my chains crunch but they also crackle, pop, howl, moan, growl, whine and make all kinds of strange noises.
Are you sure it wasn't your cats?

Point well-taken, though. Chains aren't made to be twisted, so of course it's going to feel and sound weird.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
Toots.

If you look at this guy's post history, you will find he never asks a question in good faith, but is just setting people up for name calling. It's clear from his sig line, which is a response he had to people who were trying to offer advice in response to one of his "questions".
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Originally Posted by Kai Winters
. . . In reality I use the Park chain cleaning tool. It works great. I also clean my chain weekly during the 'road' season and every other week when it's on the trainer. I use a variety of lubes and honestly don't notice a difference. My main favorite is 'tri-flo'...works great and isn't expensive.
I use MucOff chain cleaner in the Park tool.
Same, using a knockoff version of the Park tool, except instead of using it to clean the chain I just add a few drops of Tri-Flo to a pair of ports at the top of the cleaning tool where the oil will drip onto each side of the chain links. I do that every month or two, or whenever I hear the chain starting to squeak a little. The chain stays amazingly clean without the need for a separate cleaning step.
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The Park chain cleaning tool is a splattery mess! I would never use that thing.
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Originally Posted by elcyc
Normally , I use a KMC 9-speed chain on street and bike routes. Paved beach bike trail is normally clean concrete, but can pick up some sand.

I clean the chain with cloth and dedicated bike-brush and re-lube 1x/week. Every other month, I remove chain and suspended in kerosene overnight -- in a glass jar filled with kerosene with large ball of steel wool to suspend chain, allowing debris to settle to bottom, leaving chain "clean".


One way I test a chain to see how dirty (contaminated) or worn it may be is to GENTLY twist -- perpendicular to axis of travel -- before and after cleaning. After a new chain has been used for a few months, I can feel-hear some crunching . This is even after overnight kerosene cleaning.

Not sure if there is a better way to clean, that is still quick and better than replacing the chain. I am not an off-roader. Just commuting and grocery-getting and some non-aggressive city-street riding. Oil used is various chain spray or drip, such as White Lightning. Noting fancy or $$.


Will an ultrasonic cleaner be the best option?
The gritty sound is sand/dirt/grit that didn't get washed out of the chain. It doesn't sound like you are actually agitating the chain in your kerosene soak. Without mechanical agitation only some of the grit will be removed. Vigorous shaking followed by settling, and perhaps two-step process where you shake the chain in a jar of kerosene (or better, odorless mineral spirits which doesn't stink), let it settle, then do again in a jar of clean solvent. Use the "dirty" solvent as the first wash on the next cleaning. Whether White Lightning is the right lube for you is the subject of a very long thread
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I ride under sandy conditions. Wax is a drivetrain life-saver (or extender).
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Originally Posted by Polaris OBark
I ride under sandy conditions. Wax is a drivetrain life-saver (or extender).
The ex-pro racers who are presenters on the YouTube GCN (Global Cycling Network) channel have lately turned into waxed-chain fanatics. (Their recent videos where they look over bikes raced by current pros usually include a check of the chain---"Waxed! Nice.") Maybe chain manufacturers will soon begin selling pre-waxed chains.
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When I was MTB'ing a lot back in the day... I'd just use the hose on my crunchy chain after a sandy/muddy ride. Then spin it real fast to shed as much water as possible, then soak it with WD-40 to displace the water. Follow up with any old chain lube and wallah... no more crunch.
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I dont clean my chain. Spray it with WD-40 and wipe it off on occasion. Add a few drops of oil on occasion. There really isnt any point in continuously cleaning your chain.
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My mom twists my chain every week to check it. I don't have to do this.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
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Any comment to increase your POST COUNT ... right toots?
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Originally Posted by elcyc
Who said anything about scrubbing chains with ANYTHING, let alone steel wool.

Folks, pluhleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee read , and re-read the OP karephully .... and try to get the original koncept into your wothlesss, malphunctioning noggins ... bee4 gettin' karried away,Capisce?
Originally Posted by Maelochs
Whether the steel wool sheds metal in the chain-cleaning application I have no idea but i doubt it would. The only objection I raise is the actually and logically fallacious claim that steel wool does not shed metal when used for cleaning, and the utterly fallacious example of restaurant use as proof.

As far as bike chains go ..... I have scrubbed them with abrasive pads and material has come off the pad. But you were not using the steel wool to scrub. [emphasis added]
As a troll once told me ....
Originally Posted by elcyc
read , and re-read the OP karephully .... and try to get the original koncept into your wothlesss, malphunctioning noggins
Can you take the advice you give?
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
A silly topic deserves a silly reply.
You should step back and see that what you claim is a silly answer is something that actually seems legit for your usual posting.
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I always carry a spare chain and master links.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
You should step back and see that what you claim is a silly answer is something that actually seems legit for your usual posting.
I personally use WD 40 on my chain but I know this practice is frowned upon by many cyclists who seem to have a fear of WD 40 coming in contact with their chain.
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Originally Posted by 7up
I always carry a spare chain and master links.
I always carry a spare bike.
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Originally Posted by livedarklions
Have you considered soaking the chain in sulphuric acid? It won't work, I just think it'd be funny.
Nah. Wrong acid. Sulfuric acid (proper spelling) doesn’t do much to iron nor on the grit (which is probably silicon dioxide). Hydrochloric acid, on the other hand, will get rid of the grit but the chain will go first. Problem solved! No chain, no crunchy sound.

Or aqua regia, there’s the ticket! Same problem but it does have a lovely orange color.
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Originally Posted by esasjl
HF will dissolve silicates.
And bone. And it plays hell with the calcium in your blood which regulates all kinds of things that keep you alive. Lovely stuff.
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Originally Posted by cyccommute
Hydrochloric acid, on the other hand, will get rid of the grit but the chain will go first. Problem solved! No chain, no crunchy sound.
And it's cheap and easy to come by. Just puke on it. Easy peazy!
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Originally Posted by Lombard
The Park chain cleaning tool is a splattery mess! I would never use that thing.
Likely the 'bath' tank is overfilled and not being used correctly. I use it many times a day in the shop where I work and also at home. No 'splattery mess' anywhere.
But it should be cleaned now and then. The inside of the tank...the sponge, wheels, tank itself, etc become a real mess of the accumulated gunk from the chains cleaned. I dump the contents and thoroughly wash all the fiddly bits and tank every few weeks or so in the shop and several times a year at home. Otherwise you are just washing the chain in very dirty cleaning fluid.
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I am amused by the chain cleaning and lube antagonists constantly polluting any discussion on chain maintenance.
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Originally Posted by elcyc
Any comment to increase your POST COUNT ... right toots?
Over 14,600. WOW!!! And very cool ... cuz I've been here fer yearz, ... and and still only a Junior Member.
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Seriously? A post count insult? That's all you've got?

​​​​​​You're doing the same "ask a question, call the people who answer it names" bit again.

Got you to change your sig line, btw.

What's with your poop fixation? It's really creepy.
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I am actually thankful that the worst trolls are polite enough to make their status clear. No need to wonder ....
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What's with your poop fixation? It's really creepy.
Actually, going to the bathroom is about as normal and non-creepy as it gets. If ya aints regula' outta Uranus, youz gots problems, TOOTS
What's creepy? Take a look at this thread and all the WEIRD diversions and non sequitur small-talk comments that do not problem-solve ... but merely reflect a COMMUNITY that is bored to tears, and is BEGGING for something to keystroke about in between meals, and tv shows, and takin' out da trash, and walkin' the dog (blue baggin' the poop) ... and visitin' the John.
Correctomundo, tooties ?
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Ummmm .... I am sick of being the button pusher, but this has gotten so far off-track ....

See you in some other threads, folks ... or in some cases, hopefully not.
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