Difference between someone who rides a bicycle and a "cyclist" socioeconomic?
05-06-23, 06:44 AM
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Looks like a world traveler. Probably has a phd, on sabbatical and living the dream. Do non-cyclists wear helmets? Has some motorcycle gloves on so may have started his journey on a motorcycle and at some point transitioned from a motorcyclist to a cyclist. If i had a better view of his footwear i could tell you the bigger picture.
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05-06-23, 06:45 AM
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This type of thread pops up every so often. One could say it's a cyclical subject.
05-06-23, 06:54 AM
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No tinfoil on the helmet.
05-06-23, 07:00 AM
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I'm a Fred. Is that a bicycle rider or a cyclist?
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Why not add 'biker' to the discussion? Or is that reserved exclusively for motorcycle riders?
05-06-23, 07:54 AM
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A real cyclist won’t leave their bike unattended, so “U” lock not required.
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05-06-23, 07:59 AM
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I for one think it is absolutely delightful to post this individual's photo on the internet, almost certainly without permission, to further rob him of his dignity.
Maybe if I put some key works in here, like "vaccine" or "evolution" or "political economy," this distasteful mockery will get the attention it seems to magically avoid.
Maybe if I put some key works in here, like "vaccine" or "evolution" or "political economy," this distasteful mockery will get the attention it seems to magically avoid.
05-06-23, 08:42 AM
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How many of you “cyclists” would even attempt to tote around that much stuff, even if you could? Walk the walk, kids. Until you do, you are noticing but keyboard warriors.
05-06-23, 09:30 AM
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05-06-23, 10:55 AM
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For me a “cyclist” is someone who rides regularly for a hobby/sport. People who ride bikes only for utility eg commuting or shopping are not really cyclists. They are just people riding bikes for transport. Technically, they are cyclists whenever riding, but it doesn’t define them and they would probably not describe themselves as “cyclists” if you asked what they were.
But there is no need to label anyone. People will usually self-label as a “cyclist” like you would expect members of this forum to do so. It has nothing to do with their socio-economic status. A “serious cyclist” is a “cyclist” who simply invests more time and effort into the hobby/sport. You would expect some regular forum members to be in that category. Again they will generally self-label.
The guy in the photo is intriguing. He may well be a keen mountain biker with his gear, or the bike might just be his means to an end of moving around. Who knows or cares?
But there is no need to label anyone. People will usually self-label as a “cyclist” like you would expect members of this forum to do so. It has nothing to do with their socio-economic status. A “serious cyclist” is a “cyclist” who simply invests more time and effort into the hobby/sport. You would expect some regular forum members to be in that category. Again they will generally self-label.
The guy in the photo is intriguing. He may well be a keen mountain biker with his gear, or the bike might just be his means to an end of moving around. Who knows or cares?
05-06-23, 10:58 AM
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Maybe the Recreational & Family Forum is the pace for you.
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05-06-23, 11:14 AM
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What about the person that pulls around his kids/animals in a trailer? He/she's just pulling cargo in a trailer.
05-06-23, 11:17 AM
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Way back when I was broke, homeless and had no advanced degree, I had no identity of my own so I clung to the term "cyclist" as my identity. It gave me purpose, drive, a reason to exist.
Now that I am established, have worked 40+ years and consider myself a human-being, a creature of God, I no longer identify myself with a label of any sort, particularly "cyclist".
Frankly, the term "cyclist" when used to create an identity is sadly a misused term, as are many, many other labels we humans use to create an identity, as belonging to a unique group, one that differentiates oneself from the mass of society as a whole.
Now that I am established, have worked 40+ years and consider myself a human-being, a creature of God, I no longer identify myself with a label of any sort, particularly "cyclist".
Frankly, the term "cyclist" when used to create an identity is sadly a misused term, as are many, many other labels we humans use to create an identity, as belonging to a unique group, one that differentiates oneself from the mass of society as a whole.
05-06-23, 11:18 AM
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Nothing is “really” true !
Everything is relative.
From my view of the world…
how do you lock up your expensive road bike?…. it’s a trick question, you don’t, else it’s not yours any more.
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05-06-23, 11:22 AM
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I for one think it is absolutely delightful to post this individual's photo on the internet, almost certainly without permission, to further rob him of his dignity.
Maybe if I put some key works in here, like "vaccine" or "evolution" or "political economy," this distasteful mockery will get the attention it seems to magically avoid.
Maybe if I put some key works in here, like "vaccine" or "evolution" or "political economy," this distasteful mockery will get the attention it seems to magically avoid.
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05-06-23, 11:36 AM
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05-06-23, 11:39 AM
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Also, I said that you, in doing so, are robbing him of his dignity by making a mockery of him.
05-06-23, 11:43 AM
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His name is Randy Stone. The photographer Liz Hafalia obtained his permission before publishing the photo on the Internet. It's been published on the Internet since it was taken March 11, 2013 -- for more than 10 years. How is the photo taking any of his dignity or mocking him?
05-06-23, 11:47 AM
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05-06-23, 11:50 AM
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I guess if you are looking down on him maybe you are robbing him of his dignity. I look at the photo and I think he is a guy traveling the country living the dream. Maybe he will log on tonight and have a good laugh.
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05-06-23, 11:54 AM
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OK, then let's see some photos of you traveling the country living the dream.
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05-06-23, 11:55 AM
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The photo was taken outside an encampment under the freeway. The "No Tresspassing... No Lodging" sign is clearly seen in the photo. According to the Department of Public Works, about 30 people were lodging there and they had 20 to 25 bicycles.
05-06-23, 12:27 PM
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If you think it is a troll, why keep taking the bait?
I wasn't trying to make a point, but I asked questions to start a discussion. I wanted to read what other people think about how cycling influences our own identity and the way we perceive the identity of others in our culture. Specifically, I inquired about the divide between leisure cycling by the priviledged class that enjoys good health, good education, good families, good occupations, and good neighborhoods and bicycle use by people who do not enjoy those priviledges. What do you think about this divide? What are your thoughts on this? One of the things I mentioned in my first post was intergenerational elasticity of social, physiological, and cultural capital. This is the degree of deviation in these asset levels between generations. An increase in inequality, that is the disparity in asset levels between the leisure cyclist and the displaced campers, has been observed to correlate to less deviation in asset levels between generations. In simpler terms, as inequality increases, intergenerational social mobility decreases -- more people possess unequal asset levels and the inequality persists increasingly just because they were born that way. This isn't the point I'm trying to make, but a fact that prefaces my question. What do you make of the difference here?
I wasn't trying to make a point, but I asked questions to start a discussion. I wanted to read what other people think about how cycling influences our own identity and the way we perceive the identity of others in our culture. Specifically, I inquired about the divide between leisure cycling by the priviledged class that enjoys good health, good education, good families, good occupations, and good neighborhoods and bicycle use by people who do not enjoy those priviledges. What do you think about this divide? What are your thoughts on this? One of the things I mentioned in my first post was intergenerational elasticity of social, physiological, and cultural capital. This is the degree of deviation in these asset levels between generations. An increase in inequality, that is the disparity in asset levels between the leisure cyclist and the displaced campers, has been observed to correlate to less deviation in asset levels between generations. In simpler terms, as inequality increases, intergenerational social mobility decreases -- more people possess unequal asset levels and the inequality persists increasingly just because they were born that way. This isn't the point I'm trying to make, but a fact that prefaces my question. What do you make of the difference here?
05-06-23, 12:30 PM
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