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Originally Posted by mpetry912
(Post 22909393)
Don't know what you mean by "optimum" pressure.
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very simple. The same presssure! Because the guage reads air pressue at ambient temperature.
whatever temperature it is, the guage reads the pressure at that temperature. /markp |
Originally Posted by mpetry912
(Post 22909404)
very simple. The same presssure! Because the guage reads air pressue at ambient temperature.
whatever temperature it is, the guage reads the pressure at that temperature. /markp |
Originally Posted by asgelle
(Post 22909038)
How so?
On hot summer days not only is it hot in the air like say 95 degrees, the blacktop can be around 140 degrees on a windless day with direct overhead sun. So tires can get quite hot, and when that happens up goes the psi from the heat. If you have a modern car with tire pressure read out from all 4 tires, you can see that when setting in the garage the tire heat is pretty low, but take out onto the highway and those readings slowly go up, your bike tires are doing the same thing just not as much because you're not doing 80 mph. |
Originally Posted by rekmeyata
(Post 22909429)
by about 5 psi, that's how so.
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There's one scenario where you might keep temperature in mind. If you pump up the tires in an indoor environmentally controlled room, then take the bike out into very hot or cold weather, it could be a factor. Air conditioners and heaters are real things. Obviously, if you fill your tires with 72 degree air, and then ride in 90 degree heat, there will be some pressure increase. Don't know how noticeable it might be, but if you're one of those super high pressure guys, use outdoor air.
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Originally Posted by mpetry912
(Post 22909017)
But for a typical 28mm tire on a common road bike, ridden in non competitive conditions, 80-90 psi is a good starting point.
I'm sceptical that a calculator or app can better determine the right tire pressure than I can do for myself. Remember air temperature has something to do with it too. /markp |
Originally Posted by asgelle
(Post 22909431)
You're a little late to the party. See post 27.
I'm pretty sure he doesn't agree with post 27, they're saying very different things. |
Originally Posted by Iride01
(Post 22908966)
Billydog Many of us check the tire pressure and pump them up to our chosen PSI almost every time we go for a ride.
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Originally Posted by KerryIrons
(Post 22910244)
With Michelin AirStop butyl tubes (80 gm tube weight), my tires lose about 0.5 psi per day. Is your pressure gauge that accurate or do you have a slow leak or latex tubes?
And yes, I do pump them up every time I check them. I use the gauge on the pump, so since it's already connected. I'll give the pump a stroke or two to top off the tire. Don't know if the gauge is accurate, but it is consistent. And the graduation marks are sufficient and large enough so that I can easily inflate them to within a precision of .5 psi. |
Only 1/2 psi a day? Are we talking about thin 700x 20 to 28c sized tubes? I use on average 100 gram tubes and for the last 40 years or so I average about a pound to two pounds a day depending on the thickness of the tube and the manufacture, maybe heavier 130 plus gram tubes would lose 1/2 psi a day, I know my touring bike that uses a 35 to 45c tube loses about a pound a week, not sure what the weight of those are. Of course latex tubes lose a lot more at around 30 psi a day if I remember correctly.
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Oh, my how complicated PSI can become.
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Originally Posted by Chuck Naill
(Post 22910759)
Oh, my how complicated PSI can become.
I realized I was putting too much thought into this when I measured what I considered good enough to finish a ride after a roadside flat, and it was a full 40 psi lower than I typically ride at. Basically, it really doesn't feel much different. In that context, obsessing about 5 pounds margins either way seems a bit silly. |
Originally Posted by livedarklions
(Post 22911064)
I realized I was putting too much thought into this when I measured what I considered good enough to finish a ride after a roadside flat, and it was a full 40 psi lower than I typically ride at. Basically, it really doesn't feel much different. In that context, obsessing about 5 pounds margins either way seems a bit silly.
1. Tubeless works, since I obviously punctured and didn't even realize it. 2. I should probably be running lower psi. 3. Obsessing over tiny differences is pretty silly. |
I'm full of PSi!
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Originally Posted by Chuck Naill
(Post 22910759)
Oh, my how complicated PSI can become.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22911457)
How did people inflate tires before internet was invented ?
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22911457)
Apparently is so complicated for some people that it's impossible for them to get it right without going on internet....How did people inflate tires before internet was invented ?
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Originally Posted by rekmeyata
(Post 22911460)
Remember, that was in the day of higher was better, until the 15% drop thing came along
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Originally Posted by asgelle
(Post 22911458)
Improperly.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22911472)
Well I must be doing it wrong because even with internet and all the tire pressures dogmas preached out there I still choose to do it my way.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22911457)
Apparently is so complicated for some people that it's impossible for them to get it right without going on internet....How did people inflate tires before internet was invented ?
If you find people exchanging ideas and opinions on the internet so objectionable, you really don't need to be here. |
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