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Old 06-12-23, 06:43 AM
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I like indexed shifting on bikes I'm using in traffic or trails. My commuter and mountain bike are both indexed. My two 10 speeds are friction shift and sui me just fine for the longer paved road or gravel rides. So I guess my only preference comes down to what activity I am doing as both work great.
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The extension of that logic is the penny-farthing ... nothing to do but pedal.
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Originally Posted by Xavier65
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No doubt someone will claim that rod shifters are even superior to friction shifters, because they have no cables to fray, rust, stretch, or slip, and so never go out of alignment, and have 100% positive engagement and feedback.
...now I don't need to do so. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Maelochs
The extension of that logic is the penny-farthing ... nothing to do but pedal.

...the people with real vision are probably designing downhill penny-farthings, even as we write here.
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Originally Posted by 3alarmer
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...I just reached down with my right hand, along he seat tube. And there it was.
Very good.

People mistakingly think Sepp Kuss was trying to swap batteries on his SRAM rear derailleur in the Giro, but he was really trying to shift his front derailleur and couldn't find the rod.
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Originally Posted by Xavier65
These two photos show what my tourer ended up like after I discovered that indexed shifters weren't generally compatible with drop handlebars
How many cogs on the rear cluster? I just checked and saw NOS indexed Shimano stem shifters for 7-speed and 6-speed systems on eBay, which would give indexed shifting in essentially the same place with far less stuff.

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Originally Posted by Xavier65
No doubt someone will claim that rod shifters are even superior to friction shifters, because they have no cables to fray, rust, stretch, or slip, and so never go out of alignment, and have 100% positive engagement and feedback.
This person already exists. His name is Jan Heine.

He's also done PBP, Unbound XL, and currently holds the FKT on the Oregon Outback course, all using a rod-operated front derailleur. (And a ludicrously-expensive and obsessively-redesigned version of a 1930s French rear, but, hey... it's Jan Heine... weird French stuff is gonna happen.)

Granted, Jan's a beast of a rider, but, still... it didn't slow him down much.

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Originally Posted by ofajen
How many cogs on the rear cluster? I just checked and saw NOS indexed Shimano stem shifters for 7-speed and 6-speed systems on eBay, which would give indexed shifting in essentially the same place with far less stuff.
It's an 8 speed 11-36, but I'd have been happy with a 7 speed 11-36 (indeed I had a 7 speed for quite some time until I changed from rim to disk brake).

'essentially the same place'? Stem vs fingertip? I think that's a pretty BIG stretch. :-}

I did once look for stem shifters or shifters that could be mounted nearby, but having had difficulty finding any, assumed they'd been deprecated due to risk of puncturing the chest upon collision.

Now that I've discovered the pleasure of indexed shifters on thumb & forefinger, I ain't downgrading to less. I will only consider hinged/clip-over shifters that mount onto 23.8-24mm bars - so I don't have to remove all the tape, dual brakes, etc.

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