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Old 10-24-23, 11:16 AM
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Sheldon Brown/Harris Cyclery site

I'm on there a lot, learning mostly about vintage gear. Such a great resource. There's always a donate link, but I've never donated to it. I think about how much I'd miss it if it had to shutter. So I sent them a donation. https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
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Sheldon was a very interesting man and a giant of sorts in the bicycle world. I'll have to go back to his site and check it out again. I wish guys like him were still around.
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Originally Posted by Chandne
Sheldon was a very interesting man and a giant of sorts in the bicycle world. I'll have to go back to his site and check it out again. I wish guys like him were still around.
I thought LarrySellerz is a guy like him.
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Originally Posted by XxHaimBondxX
I thought LarrySellerz is a guy like him.
Sheldon Brown shows how things are conventionally done, whereas LarrySellerz is McGyver.
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I visit the site quite a bit. Just went there today to see what a dropper was, after seeing it in a post on here.
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I'm glad Harriet Fell and John S. Allen (a friend of mine) are keeping Sheldon's site maintained and updated. As I recall, John also worked on some of the last editions of the Sutherland's manuals, which a number of us remember from back in the day.
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Originally Posted by XxHaimBondxX
I thought LarrySellerz is a guy like him.
There is zero need to insult Sheldon Brown . Sheldon was a professional bike mechanic, cyclist and bike lover who always provided excellent knowledge and maintained a website people are still talking about and visiting well after he passed.
Not anything close to Larry beyond them at different times being on the same forum.
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Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir
Sheldon Brown shows how things are conventionally done, whereas LarrySellerz is McGyver.
Conventional isn't a word I would use to describe Sheldon Brown.

This was one of his bikes...

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You're right. That seat isn't the right color, or soft looking.
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Originally Posted by mstateglfr
Conventional isn't a word I would use to describe Sheldon Brown.
I was not referring to the man personally, but his namesake website.
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It doesn't have the mechanical information that Sheldon Brown gives, but if you enjoyed the other musings of Sheldon, then you might also like the musings of Ken Kifer who's life, in 2003, was tragically ended.

Welcome to KenKifer.com

Take the link on that page to his Bike Pages The navigation on the site is typical of home made websites of that period. So sometimes it's easy to get lost and not be able to find something you just read.

I didn't agree with all of his views, but I did enjoy reading his opinion and outlook on cycling.
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As much as I am thankful to John Allen to taking over the reins at the site, one issue I see is that John Allen sometimes writes a new page altogether, which is not linked to the old pages. So for example, Sheldon Brown (Blessed be his name) wrote the seminal meta-analysis on cassettes here:
https://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html

Now then John Allen made a nice page which expanded on that knowledge base by adding info on 10 speed FH7850 , 11 speed hubs, and 12 speed microspline, as well as the different 7-10sp freehub body types:
https://sheldonbrown.com/shimano-cassette-bodies.html

But the latter is a totally separate page from the former, and not as far as I could see, linked to from the former page. It would have been far better if John just added to the original page.
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When I view Sheldon's site, I see ads, same as bikeforums or any other site generating revenue merely by clicks.
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Originally Posted by icemilkcoffee
As much as I am thankful to John Allen to taking over the reins at the site, one issue I see is that John Allen sometimes writes a new page altogether, which is not linked to the old pages. So for example, Sheldon Brown (Blessed be his name) wrote the seminal meta-analysis on cassettes here:
https://sheldonbrown.com/k7.html

Now then John Allen made a nice page which expanded on that knowledge base by adding info on 10 speed FH7850 , 11 speed hubs, and 12 speed microspline, as well as the different 7-10sp freehub body types:
https://sheldonbrown.com/shimano-cassette-bodies.html

But the latter is a totally separate page from the former, and not as far as I could see, linked to from the former page. It would have been far better if John just added to the original page.
This comment has been forwarded to Mr. Allen for his information. Can't say I can always promise to do this, but I'll see what I can do to forward useful feedback on that website.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
It doesn't have the mechanical information that Sheldon Brown gives, but if you enjoyed the other musings of Sheldon, then you might also like the musings of Ken Kifer who's life, in 2003, was tragically ended.

Welcome to KenKifer.com

Take the link on that page to his Bike Pages The navigation on the site is typical of home made websites of that period. So sometimes it's easy to get lost and not be able to find something you just read.

I didn't agree with all of his views, but I did enjoy reading his opinion and outlook on cycling.
Hard to believe it's been 20 years already.
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Thanks for the link... Done.
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For me, Sheldon was exemplary in that he answered my questions. It may have helped we both owned 1986 Fat Chance Kickers.
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Sheldon "Irreplaceable" Brown. Thank you 🙏 for your good work. You have a left a legacy in the bicycle world. His website is still a "go to" resource for gaining knowledge on various aspects of bicycle. Can't believe it has been more than 15 years since he's gone.

My tribute to the legend 🙏 with a repost of his last post on this forum.

Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
Yes, freewheel threading is quite well standardized. There used to be an oddball French size, but that went extinct sometime in the '80s.

Your hub will work fine with any freewheel, though I would consider it a bit of a downgrade to go from a Shimano to a Regina. You'll likely suffer a deterioration in shifting quality.

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Will this freewheel work?
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I've been using that site for ... ahhh ... since I started using the internet. Twenty-seven years or so. I still refer to it, and was on there this week. I'm very grateful to the people who update and take care of Mr Brown's legacy.
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I've learned so much from Sheldon's site, it's invaluable. Was reading the Suntour section in the shop and it made me happy to see the "last updated" date was today.
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Sheldon Brown. He actually thought that Poutine was a delicious snack food
Where I live in Quebec it is fondly referred to as "heart attack on a plate" fried potatoes, cheese, and rich gravy combined together

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Originally Posted by RCMoeur
I'm glad Harriet Fell and John S. Allen (a friend of mine) are keeping Sheldon's site maintained and updated.
It's great that someone is keeping this site online, but someone also desperately needs to edit it. As-is it contains many errors that are, frankly, well below the standard of a venerated reference.

Some of the more embarrassing errors include:

"At high speeds, hydroplaning is just possible for car tires, but is absolutely impossible for bicycle tires."

"A correctly inflated tire will have negligible rolling resistance."

"Airless tires have been obsolete for over a century, but crackpot 'inventors' keep trying to bring them back. ​"

"Conventional tires used on 99% of all bicycles are "clincher" type, also known as "wire-on." They consist of an outer tire with a U-shaped cross section, and a separate inner tube. The edges of the tire hook over the edges of the rim, and air pressure holds everything in place. Many people suppose that tires are made out of rubber, because that's what is visible. This is a major oversimplification -- rubber is the least important of the three components that make up a tire:"

"The "bead" is the edge of the tire. On most tires, the beads consist of hoops of strong steel cable."

"The rubber is mainly there to protect the fabric from damage, and has no structural importance."

"The rubber that comes into contact with the ground is called the "tread.""

"Cracks in the tread are harmless."


And that horrific mess is all just on one page.

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Originally Posted by alcjphil
Sheldon Brown. He actually thought that Poutine was a delicious snack food
Where I live in Quebec it is fondly referred to as "heart attack on a plate" fried potatoes, cheese, and rich gravy combined together
That looks like vomit. I'm not puuuting that in my mouth
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Originally Posted by TC1
It's great that someone is keeping this site online, but someone also desperately needs to edit it. As-is it contains many errors that are, frankly, well below the standard of a venerated reference.
Some of the more embarrassing errors include: >>> SNIP >>> And that horrific mess is all just on one page.
Even in my limited competence in bicycle mechanics and engineering, I'm sometimes spotting dubious or outmoded substance on Mr Brown's grand opus. But please, let's remember these following things:

• This is a reference legacy left by one master journeyman years ago.

• His opinions and technical information may be subject to criticism, questioned, revised, or updated today. Some of it may just be subject to opposing opinions of some readers.

• Every set of legacy or indeed historical documents eventually come under some scrutiny. They get criticized for all sorts of stuff. In more arcane, academic revisions, it is called "historiography". Well, we are not at that exact place with the Sheldon Brown collection. But respectfully, I submit that we should have a little more patience than labeling some content as "horrors".

SO:
• We can or should accept this most valuable legacy of 'velo craft' for what it is ... something many of us 'vintage' aficionados depend on. There may be things we do not agree with — but what the hell. Ceci et cela!

• Perhaps someone will step up and offer their service as a volunteer editor and contributor. For sure any candidate will be vetted by the current caretakers, but perhaps the offer will be graciously and gratefully accepted.

I don't think I'm qualified to take on such a responsibility. I rather regret that I'm not, so I'll gratefully accept what is there and let any "horrors" slide by as interesting artifacts that refer to what Mr Brown was thinking.
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