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Old 11-15-23, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by noimagination
broken chains on the road (yes, I've seen several over the years, probably 5 < n < 10), etc.
I'm in the habit of carrying a spare tube, but definitely not a spare chain. I suppose if somebody's leaving a chain that means they got a ride home? That doesn't make sense to me.
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Originally Posted by Fastfingaz
yes , I've seen that same inconsiderate behavior in my area as Well ,,,
Yeah, no freaking fun to roll over a CO2 cartridge mid-turn.
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Originally Posted by Pantah
Despite carrying a spare tube and patch kit, I've had to use the patch kit more than once on the side of the road.

Interesting story, I was out with several friends on a short ride in the fall and one of the bikes was on its first ride since being purchased (used craigslist find). I thought the tires had looked okay but they clearly weren't after the rear split and blew the tube out. Managed to get it the 4 miles back after throwing in my spare tube, a small section of a very tear-resistant disposable shop towel to keep the tube from blowing out again through the giant tear in the tire and a bay leaf for good measure along with the shop towel. I was amazed it held but it was clear by the end the tire was quickly on its way to tearing enough to blow out the tube again.
Instead of disposable towel, try carrying a piece of tyvek from a shipping envelope. Light weight and doesnít take much space.
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Originally Posted by flangehead
I like scrapple.
I like turtles...
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Tubeless 30C GP5000S TR at 60-65 psi
Muc-Off sealant (generous dose)
Dynaplug kit (very rarely needed)
Spare tube (emergency backup only)
Patch kit (emergency for emergency backup)

In the last 3 years Iíve only had one flat that I had to plug at the roadside.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
National Scrapple Day was last week. Seriously.
I had to Google "Scrapple" to figure out what it was!

Oh and I tend to pop in a new tube, then take the old one home to patch later in the comfort of my garage.
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Originally Posted by jadmt
along with the empty beer can that was consumed while fixing the flat....if it is a bad flat sometimes i leave two empty cans.
I always put the bottle of vodka back in the dumpster where I found it. Iím not a complete heathen after all.
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Originally Posted by tempocyclist
I had to Google "Scrapple" to figure out what it was!
Srsly? How the PA Dutch live so long is beyond me. Maybe itís all the hard work and other aspects of clean living, but diet ainít one of them.
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I always carry two tubes with me on my road bike. On my MTB I carry one tube and a patch kit. Of course, I always carry a pump. Without it that would be a big problem. I haven't tried a sealant yet.
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I don’t know about everyone else, but I prefer to have my flats at home (except when planning to head-out).
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When I get a flat I just leave the bike on the side of the road and purchase a new bike.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
When I get a flat I just leave the bike on the side of the road and purchase a new bike.
do you buy the least expensive bike for $3k on your way to the food bank?
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Old 11-17-23, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
When I get a flat I just leave the bike on the side of the road and purchase a new bike.
Does anyone remember the cartoon (it's been a while, now) of the new Ford SUV that was so big it had a spare Explorer on top in case you had a flat or some engine trouble?
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I carry 2 tubes, a light spare tire, a patch kit, and a boot kit. I change the tube and the tire if I should flat. That's way quicker than trying to find the object in the flatted tire. I've had as many as 4 flats on a 60 mile ride. I have a friend who had 8 on a single pass climb in the dark, on a brevet of course. Hard to see bad stuff in the dark. Another friend carries 4 tubes. They're quite small and light.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
Instead of disposable towel, try carrying a piece of tyvek from a shipping envelope. Light weight and doesnít take much space.
To clarify, what I had was the equivalent size and weight of a single paper towel sheet. Or, for the mechanic minded, more closely related to the classic blue Scott brand Shop Towel. Takes up hardly any space and weighs hardly anything. Only difference is I get these at the collision repair shop I work at and they're like a paper towel/shop towel but have a bizarrely high tensile strength, like I can't rip a sheet of it by hand.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
I carry 2 tubes, a light spare tire, a patch kit, and a boot kit. I change the tube and the tire if I should flat. That's way quicker than trying to find the object in the flatted tire. I've had as many as 4 flats on a 60 mile ride. I have a friend who had 8 on a single pass climb in the dark, on a brevet of course. Hard to see bad stuff in the dark. Another friend carries 4 tubes. They're quite small and light.
If I got 8 flats on one ride, I would probably find another sport.
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Where's box for > both, neither, hitch a ride, cry for mommy, I DON'T get flats ?? LOL.
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Originally Posted by Pantah
To clarify, what I had was the equivalent size and weight of a single paper towel sheet. Or, for the mechanic minded, more closely related to the classic blue Scott brand Shop Towel. Takes up hardly any space and weighs hardly anything. Only difference is I get these at the collision repair shop I work at and they're like a paper towel/shop towel but have a bizarrely high tensile strength, like I can't rip a sheet of it by hand.
A gummed flap from a Tyvek envelope can be cut into pieces smaller, lighter, and tougher than a Scott shop towel and will, of course, stay in place in a tire. Tyvek is amazing stuff.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
If I got 8 flats on one ride, I would probably find another sport.
This is rather the whole point. Randonneuring isn't called the Dark Side of cycling for nothing. It asks the question, "Whatcha got?" Some folks can't resist trying to find the answer.
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Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy
This is rather the whole point. Randonneuring isn't called the Dark Side of cycling for nothing. It asks the question, "Whatcha got?" Some folks can't resist trying to find the answer.
I got tubeless so hopefully will never have to ask or answer the question. 🙋‍♂️
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I carry a spare tube & patch kit on rides with bikes with inner tubes. On tour, I carry a length of Velox rim tape, dental floss and a needle in addition to the above. On tour, I also utilize Tire Savers, a wonderful invention from the 60's or 70's. Ironically someone mentioned them in my local NextDoor and a woman replied, "Hey my Dad is the inventor of Tire Savers!" That was cool.

Don't become a victim of the offending object that caused your first flat. Remove it so your new tube doesn't fail you!

Patching an inner tube on the roadside is something to be avoided. Patch tubes at home. In bulk. With a Dremel sanding drum. Works like a charm.

LET THE GLUE DRY!!!!

When riding tubeless, I carry tire plugs and a spare tube. On long tubeless rides, I carry 2 oz. of Stans.

This is in addition to other required repair tools & supplies.
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Originally Posted by rsbob
I got tubeless so hopefully will never have to ask or answer the question. 🙋‍♂️
Oh boy, you're in for a surprise!

There I was on ride #3 on my new bike, carving turns through the gentle Redwood forest enjoying my ride to the fullest. Then suddenly my ears were assaulted with "PSSHT, PSSHT, PSSHT!" as my rear tire began spewing air out at a very fast rate. Along with the air was sealant spewing out in a nice circular pattern all over the place!

Three whole rides in on a brand new bike with brand new tires. During Covid. When tires were scarce. 120 TPI tires too boot! (a pun!)

I just got very unlucky to have somehow kicked up a stick so when my rear tire hit it, it was facing straight up. It went straight through my tire tread and left quite a nice gash dead-center in the knobs. "OH NO! These tires are impossible to get AND if I could, they'd be over a hundred bucks!" Definitely too big for even a tire plug to repair. Three whole rides...

Well, that didn't stop me! No way! Not with my trusty dental floss by my side! Floss is a fantastic tire repair thread. So I sewed up the tire with the floss and glued a boot on the inside and outside of the tire. Worked like a charm. That rear tire is now 2 1/2 years old now and just about ready to be replaced (cheap skate here still hasn't gotten the will to toss it in the garbage, despite its replacement patiently waiting on the shelf, ready to serve!).

Anyway, my point is don't ever assume tubeless is flat-proof. It isn't. I've had three flats now with tubeless. So they still happen, although far less commonly. So you still need to practice proper ride preparation and carry appropriate supplies. And don't forget, if you carry the stuff, the chance of a flat is almost nill. But one you venture forth without proper preparation, a flat is all but certain!
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Originally Posted by LV2TNDM
Oh boy, you're in for a surprise!

There I was on ride #3 on my new bike, carving turns through the gentle Redwood forest enjoying my ride to the fullest. Then suddenly my ears were assaulted with "PSSHT, PSSHT, PSSHT!" as my rear tire began spewing air out at a very fast rate. Along with the air was sealant spewing out in a nice circular pattern all over the place!

Three whole rides in on a brand new bike with brand new tires. During Covid. When tires were scarce. 120 TPI tires too boot! (a pun!)

I just got very unlucky to have somehow kicked up a stick so when my rear tire hit it, it was facing straight up. It went straight through my tire tread and left quite a nice gash dead-center in the knobs. "OH NO! These tires are impossible to get AND if I could, they'd be over a hundred bucks!" Definitely too big for even a tire plug to repair. Three whole rides...

Well, that didn't stop me! No way! Not with my trusty dental floss by my side! Floss is a fantastic tire repair thread. So I sewed up the tire with the floss and glued a boot on the inside and outside of the tire. Worked like a charm. That rear tire is now 2 1/2 years old now and just about ready to be replaced (cheap skate here still hasn't gotten the will to toss it in the garbage, despite its replacement patiently waiting on the shelf, ready to serve!).

Anyway, my point is don't ever assume tubeless is flat-proof. It isn't. I've had three flats now with tubeless. So they still happen, although far less commonly. So you still need to practice proper ride preparation and carry appropriate supplies. And don't forget, if you carry the stuff, the chance of a flat is almost nill. But one you venture forth without proper preparation, a flat is all but certain!

thanks for the words of caution. I have ridden 14,850 miles to date on my tubeless and had one sidewall cut which I booted and inserted a tube. The second was a roofing nail in the tread that was still rideable for the 5 mile trip home which I then successfully plugged and rode another 3,000 miles. The tire lost 5 lbs pressure before the sealant did its thing. Hope you have better luck. Oh, and I use Continental Gran Prix 5000 S TLs, which are highly puncture resistant. I have ridden through a lot of broken glass that my old tires would have certainly flatted, but these really do their job.
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Like most I replace tubes on the road, only patching if I run out of tubes. Which has happened. Six flats on a 600k is my PR.

Tubed or tubeless, I carry two tubes, boot, patch kit, pump. On tubeless, add a plug kit. I've used every bit of it.

Two massive cuts lately has me thinking of carrying a tire on brevets - one in France on in Seattle.
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