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Old 12-05-23, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
I think that was CSNY.
One of those strange situations where the cover version was released before the original.
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Old 12-05-23, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
By the way, the masterful way indyfabz (IIRC) countered the counter-steering contretemps by steering the topic over to steers---magnificent. ("By the time we got to Livestock . . . "---Joanie Mitchell.)
He can't take credit for that. I beat him to it with post 50. People skimmed over mine(rightfully so) because of his cool story and picture.
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Old 12-05-23, 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Leisesturm
I wasn't talking about a bicycle. That should have been clear, because later on I do actually imply that the gyroscopic forces of a bicycle wheel are insignificant vs a motorcycle. I didn't realize the other poster was talking about a bicycle. They mentioned countersteering to induce bank..
Certainly wasn’t clear. Are you sure you posted what you thought you posted? Where did you imply anything at all about motorcycles in that post? No big deal, I’m just puzzled.
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Originally Posted by Mojo31
I drift thru turns.



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Old 12-06-23, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
By the way, the masterful way indyfabz (IIRC) countered the counter-steering contretemps by steering the topic over to steers---magnificent. ("By the time we got to Livestock . . . "---Joanie Mitchell.)
I herd that this place was full of punny content, so it's my turn for a bovine post.


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Wholly cow!

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Old 12-06-23, 03:40 PM
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Holy cow




Holey cow?

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Originally Posted by Paul Barnard
I herd that this place was full of punny content, so it's my turn for a bovine post.

Yup, I would nudge my right handlebar until I made a complete 180 and ride the other way.
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Old 12-06-23, 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Ghazmh
Yup, I would nudge my right handlebar until I made a complete 180 and ride the other way.
Good choice...

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Old 12-06-23, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rsbob
From the NIH, it sounds very simple:“Your breathing muscles include:
  • The diaphragm: This dome-shaped muscle below your lungs separates the chest cavity from the abdominal cavity. The diaphragm is the main muscle used for breathing.
  • The muscles between your ribs: Called intercostal muscles, these muscles play a role in breathing during physical activity.
  • Abdominal muscles: You use these muscles to help you breathe out when you are breathing fast, such as during physical activity.
  • The muscles of the face, mouth, and pharynx: These control the lips, tongue, soft palate, and other structures to help with breathing. The pharynx is the part of the throat right behind the mouth. Problems with any of these muscles can narrow the airway, make it more difficult to breathe, and contribute to sleep apnea.
  • Muscles in the neck and collarbone area: You use these muscles tohelp you breathe in.
Breathing is controlled by the autonomic nervous system, also called the involuntary nervous system.There’s of course much more to it…
Nothing original here. All I see is another AI generated content.
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most impressive thing or scariest thing is doing that barefooted.....that takes some tough freaking feet...
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Nothing original here. All I see is another AI generated content.
Go back and read the first 3 words. Attribution was given.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
Nothing original here. All I see is another AI generated content.
You do realise it was a joke right?
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Old 12-07-23, 07:14 AM
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Back on topic...

Moo-ve out of my way!

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Originally Posted by Ghazmh
Yup, I would nudge my right handlebar until I made a complete 180 and ride the other way.
HTFU

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Old 12-07-23, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by pepperbelly
I rode today and made a point to see how I steer.
At the speeds I ride I found I simply lean into a turn.
I intentionally tried to counter steer to move to one side or the other. It didn’t work. The bike simply moved in the direction I turned the handlebars. I expected this. On a motorcycle at slow speed it is the same- you steer into a turn like going around a corner.

Next time you're on a quiet road, try this...
  1. Ride one-handed with your hand lightly on the bars, fingers wrapped around front of the bar but don't have the heel of your hand or thumb positioned behind the bar.
  2. With your fingertips only, pull on the bar.
  3. Observe where you go.
  4. Repeat at different speeds


Since we all know how to ride a bike, we are doing things reflexively and without thought This little experiment seeks to isolate bar input to a single force and direction.
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Old 12-07-23, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by jadmt
most impressive thing or scariest thing is doing that barefooted.....that takes some tough freaking feet...
Just noticed that they are barefoot.. maybe thats part of it
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Originally Posted by john m flores
Next time you're on a quiet road, try this...
  1. Ride one-handed with your hand lightly on the bars, fingers wrapped around front of the bar but don't have the heel of your hand or thumb positioned behind the bar.
  2. With your fingertips only, pull on the bar.
  3. Observe where you go.
  4. Repeat at different speeds


Since we all know how to ride a bike, we are doing things reflexively and without thought This little experiment seeks to isolate bar input to a single force and direction.
I was on a quiet street. I was going 15-20mph. A slight push on the handlebars turned me in that direction.
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Old 12-07-23, 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by john m flores
Next time you're on a quiet road, try this...
  1. Ride one-handed with your hand lightly on the bars, fingers wrapped around front of the bar but don't have the heel of your hand or thumb positioned behind the bar.
  2. With your fingertips only, pull on the bar.
  3. Observe where you go.
  4. Repeat at different speeds


Since we all know how to ride a bike, we are doing things reflexively and without thought This little experiment seeks to isolate bar input to a single force and direction.
Another experiment:
  1. Ride one-handed with your hand lightly on the bars, fingers wrapped around front of the bar but don't have the heel of your hand or thumb positioned behind the bar.
  2. With your fingertips only, pull on the bar. And lean toward that side, as you invariably do when turning.
  3. Observe where you go.
  4. Repeat at different speeds
Better still

1: ride no hands and lean to one side.

2. Observe where you go.
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Originally Posted by Trakhak
Another experiment:
  1. Ride one-handed with your hand lightly on the bars, fingers wrapped around front of the bar but don't have the heel of your hand or thumb positioned behind the bar.
  2. With your fingertips only, pull on the bar. And lean toward that side, as you invariably do when turning.
  3. Observe where you go.
  4. Repeat at different speeds
Better still

1: ride no hands and lean to one side.

2. Observe where you go.
Leaning certainly plays a role but the point of this exercise is to understand under what circumstances steering is used and under what circumstances countersteering is used to steer a bike.

I suggest that you try it next time you're on the bike.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Yeah, but what happens if you push on the left bar end with your right hand?
I broke my left wrist in June and until just recently, I could not manage the motion to shift from the small to large chain ring with STI shifters. A few times, I tried pulling the left lever with the right hand. Depending on the speed or surface I was riding on, I thought there was potential for another wreck.
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Originally Posted by Chuck M
I broke my left wrist in June and until just recently, I could not manage the motion to shift from the small to large chain ring with STI shifters. A few times, I tried pulling the left lever with the right hand. Depending on the speed or surface I was riding on, I thought there was potential for another wreck.
Sounds bad, particularly from the perspective of bicycling.
I hope your wrist fully healed by now.
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By the way, if your fractured wrist bone (?) is healing slowly and not fully healed quite yet, has your physician (orthopedic/plastic-surgery) discussed the use of pulsed ultrasonic or EM treatment? In case of slow to heal fractures, these devices seem to show a definite benefit… about 80% individuals show a statistically significant improvement over the control group in 3 months; the treatment takes about 20 min a day.
Best wishes.
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The bone has healed. There is still some strength, pain and range of motion issues that time and physical therapy should improve a bit.
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