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Old 02-14-24, 10:50 AM
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MLB already knows they have an attendance problem. Why else do you think they're experimenting with rule changes?
Hey! Google works for you!
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MLB --

​​​All of the players are are either standing around or sitting in the dugout watching nothing happen. Except for some spitting or genital scratching of course.

Be Still My Heart !
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Originally Posted by Steel Charlie
MLB --

​​​All of the players are are either standing around or sitting in the dugout watching nothing happen. Except for some spitting or genital scratching of course.

Be Still My Heart !
That's like saying only one chess piece moves at a time. A brilliant observation.
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Baseball scorecard:

K



6-4-3

HBP

F-8



BB

FC

FINAL SCORE 8 -5

Soccer scorecard:

FINAL SCORE 0 - 0

Gee, wonder what the more interesting game is?
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Originally Posted by smd4
Baseball scorecard:

K



6-4-3

HBP

F-8



BB

FC

FINAL SCORE 8 -5

Soccer scorecard:

FINAL SCORE 0 - 0

Gee, wonder what the more interesting game is?
Strange way to judge how interesting a sport is. Your logic is off the charts bonkers.
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Strange way to judge how interesting a sport is. Your logic is off the charts bonkers.
I'd rather watch a game that requires some thinking rather than watch a bunch of guys running all over the place with no plan.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
Strange way to judge how interesting a sport is. Your logic is off the charts bonkers.
Yeah, even though I prefer watching baseball over fütbol, the idea that baseball is more interesting because you can keep score is very odd. As is the idea that baseball is more of a "thinking" game.
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Yeah, even though I prefer watching baseball over fütbol, the idea that baseball is more interesting because you can keep score is very odd. As is the idea that baseball is more of a "thinking" game.
Tell me everything you know about baseball without telling me.
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It tells YOU that. I see a driver that simply has a higher level of taste and refinement.
You don't think cost is a factor? Nonsense. That would mean that anyone who has the desire to own a Ferrari (or, in your words, "has a higher level of taste and refinement") should be able to fulfill that desire, without issue. Hmmm...I don't know what world you live in, but that's just not economically realistic for most people, regardless of their level of desire. I've been lusty about Ferraris since I saw my first Dino, when I was a kid. I don't expect that there is a time in my life where I will ever be able to own one.

On a side note...I had conversation with a gentleman who has the means to buy any car he chooses, and personally owns a large and notable collection of spectacular cars. He thinks Ferraris are over-rated and poorly built. You might have heard of him...Jay Leno.
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You might have heard of him...Jay Leno.
Used to pass him every morning on our ways to work (him in Burbank, me in Century City).
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Originally Posted by smd4
MLB is probably too intellectual for a lot of people. I get that. Requires too much thinking for a "sport." This is why keeping score in baseball is pretty much a lost art.
Huh? 'Lost art'? Every time a player crosses home plate, the score changes. Nothing complicated about it.


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Exactly. Anyway it attracts around 3.5 billion viewers Worldwide.
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Like I said...Americans are more discerning.
By your logic, Curling is waaay better than soccer or baseball, since hardly anyone watches it.

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Originally Posted by Koyote
Huh? 'Lost art'? Every time a player crosses home plate, the score changes. Nothing complicated about it.
Sure. Yeah.
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Originally Posted by smd4
I'd rather watch a game that requires some thinking rather than watch a bunch of guys running all over the place with no plan.
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Tell me everything you know about baseball without telling me.
Tell me everything you know about soccer without telling me.
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Tell me everything you know about soccer without telling me.
I don't claim to know anything about soccer, except how silly it looks.
As opposed to all our "baseball" experts...
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Huh? 'Lost art'? Every time a player crosses home plate, the score changes. Nothing complicated about it.
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Sure. Yeah.
Last time I went to a baseball game, that's how they scored it. Sure, yeah, is right.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Last time I went to a baseball game, that's how they scored it. Sure, yeah, is right.
That's only one very small part of "scoring" a baseball game.
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
Yeah, even though I prefer watching baseball over fütbol, the idea that baseball is more interesting because you can keep score is very odd. As is the idea that baseball is more of a "thinking" game.
It is a thinking game, but there are a lot of subtleties that are easily missed. The battle of each pitch is fascinating when you start to understand about pitch-calling theory/approach, and recognize how well (or not) a pitcher is executing what is being called. For me, the excitement is in the anticipation of the multitude of different things that can happen on each pitch.
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Originally Posted by Steel Charlie
MLB --

​​​All of the players are are either standing around or sitting in the dugout watching nothing happen. Except for some spitting or genital scratching of course.

Be Still My Heart !
Older brother was a multi-sport star athlete. He got recruited by the Pittsburg Pirates, but he turned them down. "The game's too boring."

He instead went to college on a football scholarship, destroyed his elbow in a scrimmage game. Career over. Ex-athelete at 21 year old.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Huh? 'Lost art'? Every time a player crosses home plate, the score changes. Nothing complicated about it.
"Scoring" in baseball is not just what you see on the scoreboard. It's the record-keeping of how each individual play happened. I spent a LOT of years doing it for my kid's softball teams.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
the multitude of different things that can happen on each pitch.
Careful--Pete will accuse you of stealing the word "pitch" from soccer.
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Originally Posted by smd4
I don't claim to know anything about soccer, except how silly it looks.
As opposed to all our "baseball" experts...
Sports (among other things) can easily look "silly" by people who don't understand the game. I don't know much about futbol, but know enough about other team sports to recognize that there are probably a lot of little things going on that have a much bigger effect on the game than I am aware of. Players aren't running around randomly and without purpose.
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Originally Posted by terrymorse
Older brother was a multi-sport star athlete. He got recruited by the Pittsburg Pirates, but he turned them down. "The game's too boring."

He instead went to college on a football scholarship, destroyed his elbow in a scrimmage game. Career over. Ex-athelete at 21 year old.
If an athlete is craving a game of constant action, baseball is not going to be very fulfilling for most of the positions on the field. This is one of the reasons why my kid was attracted to being a catcher - lots of action.

EDIT: To be fair, football has a lot of standing around, too. In broad terms, you're either standing around or sprinting. Using the same broad terms, a lot of baseball is the same.
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Originally Posted by Eric F
Sports (among other things) can easily look "silly" by people who don't understand the game. I don't know much about futbol, but know enough about other team sports to recognize that there are probably a lot of little things going on that have a much bigger effect on the game than I am aware of. Players aren't running around randomly and without purpose.
That’s right, not even in MLS these days!

Obviously I know next to nothing about baseball and I can confirm that it indeed looks silly from my ignorant perspective.
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Originally Posted by smd4
Careful--Pete will accuse you of stealing the word "pitch" from soccer.
Not at all. You can use the word “ball” too.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
That’s right, not even in MLS these days!

Obviously I know next to nothing about baseball and I can confirm that it indeed looks silly from my ignorant perspective.
IMO, it's important for us to recognize when our own ignorance affects our perspective.
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