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Old 05-14-24, 04:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Well enough for me to still be using it after ten years.
I was really wondering what actually happens when you puncture. Does it just seal the tube?
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I think there are 100 different opinions as to tubeless or not tubeless. I actually run both, tubeless on my gravel and tubes on my road bike, both seem to work just fine and I don't have an issue with either.
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It can and that is the original design, but you can also plug a tubeless tire like on a car tire.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I was really wondering what actually happens when you puncture. Does it just seal the tube?
+1
I canít imagine it being a permanent solution like a self-sealed or plugged tubeless tyre usually is. But I have no personal experience with sealant in tubed tyres, so I could be wrong.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Thanks for the congrats, but bragging was not the point, as I suspect many bf'ers regularly do more impressive rides.

The point, as outlined in the original post, is that my riding conditions are mine -- and in those conditions, I benefit from tubeless tires. The post is addressed to those bf'ers who can't fathom that other people may not ride for the same reasons, or on the same roads, as they do.

As for the OT posts about pool noodles and injecting sealant into tubes...well, that's just the sort of dross that lands in almost every bf thread.
The irony with this one is strong. The original post was enough of a troll, and using it to cover a humble brag was genius. This takes it to another level.

Since this is a troll thread, this is the way to go. This and a Fanttik will take care of most of your flat issues.


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Originally Posted by seypat
The irony with this one is strong. The original post was enough of a troll, and using it to cover a humble brag was genius. This takes it to another level.

Since this is a troll thread, this is the way to go. This and a Fanttik will take care of most of your flat issues.

I carry that very kit in my car and actually had to use it for the first time ever just a few weeks ago. It was hard work with the wheel on the car (rear tyre puncture near inside edge) but it worked perfectly!

I carry a Dynaplug ďRacerĒ kit in my jersey pocket, which is a bit more compact! 😂
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I was really wondering what actually happens when you puncture. Does it just seal the tube?
Most of the time, yes. Big holes still require tube patch or replacement.
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Old 05-14-24, 06:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Fredo76
The crap we put up with here from the resident bf buttheads, who can't even take a joke! Sheesh!
Jokes are more effective when they're actually funny.
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Originally Posted by PeteHski
I carry that very kit in my car and actually had to use it for the first time ever just a few weeks ago. It was hard work with the wheel on the car (rear tyre puncture near inside edge) but it worked perfectly!

I carry a Dynaplug “Racer” kit in my jersey pocket, which is a bit more compact! 😂
My business sets between an electrical contrator and a HVAC/plumbing contractor. The shared parking lot always has sheet screws on the ground. The E load range tires are tough to get the plugs through. That particular kit is a new addition. I was out of bacon strips after having to repair one of my wife's tires last week, so I just found a deal on the Zon for a little more than more bacon strips. Speaking of plugs, here's one. This portable inflator took my wife's tire from 9psi to 33psi in less than 5 minutes. Enough said.

https://fanttik.com/products/x8-apex-tire-inflator

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I've been carrying a tube as backup. Never had to use it but now I'm pondering the potential mess. I've ordered a plug kit and I'm wondering if people also pack sealant and a valve core removal tool. Or can you count on enough sealant remaining in the tire? The fat tube is bulky, wouldn't mind ditching it.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Jokes are more effective when they're actually funny.
Whatís brown and sounds like a bell?
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Originally Posted by JohnDThompson
Most of the time, yes. Big holes still require tube patch or replacement.
I'm assuming that the tube must have a removable valve core. And, I'm under the impression that not all tubes do. So, careful tube selection?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
What’s brown and sounds like a bell?

Jersey or Brown Swiss cattle?
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
I've been carrying a tube as backup. Never had to use it but now I'm pondering the potential mess. I've ordered a plug kit and I'm wondering if people also pack sealant and a valve core removal tool. Or can you count on enough sealant remaining in the tire? The fat tube is bulky, wouldn't mind ditching it.
Dynaplug is the premium option for plugging tubeless tyres. Fitting a tube should be your last resort, something I have never had to do.

I do carry a couple of spare valve cores and a remover, but not sealant. Itís probably not a bad idea to carry a small bottle of sealant, but once you are at the plugging stage it doesnít really matter. I doubt I would bother topping up the sealant again in that scenario. But Iím not touring or doing multi-day rides away from home. If I lose sealant, then I will just plug the hole, ride home and top up the sealant for the next ride.

Another useful thing to carry is a small tube of superglue. It can help to seal bigger cuts and even avoid having to plug a tyre, although using a Dynaplug is a very quick and usually permanent fix
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^^ I have gotten out of the habit of regularly filling very small cuts in my tires with super glue gel. I learned of it while watching pro mechanics do it to their racer's bikes. I need to get back to that.
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Originally Posted by bruce19
I'm assuming that the tube must have a removable valve core. And, I'm under the impression that not all tubes do. So, careful tube selection?
Most of the premium sealants will not flow through a valve even with the core removed. Silca and Stans Race will plug the valve immediately.
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I still want to know which gravel tire I shouldn't buy. I don't want to deal with punctures!!
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Originally Posted by prj71
I still want to know which gravel tire I shouldn't buy. I don't want to deal with punctures!!
Pick Rene Herse running tubeless for maximum performance and comfort. For convenience, pick a Schwalbe Marathon with a Tannus Armour Insert and a Slime Extra tube with sealant.
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Originally Posted by Atlas Shrugged
Pick Rene Herse running tubeless for maximum performance and comfort. For convenience, pick a Schwalbe Marathon with a Tannus Armour Insert and a Slime Extra tube with sealant.
I was being facetious. The OP never told us which brand and model of tire got punctured. I want to know so I don't buy that brand and model.
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Originally Posted by prj71
The OP never told us which brand and model of tire got punctured. I want to know so I don't buy that brand and model.
If you're serious, then this is the funniest thing anyone's posted in this thread, even if it is unintentional.
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Originally Posted by prj71
I still want to know which gravel tire I shouldn't buy. I don't want to deal with punctures!!
I don't think you should buy any tire that costs over $19.95 or has a recognizable brand.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
If you're serious, then this is the funniest thing anyone's posted in this thread, even if it is unintentional.
I'm half serious.

When I buy tires I do a lot of research on them before buying. When I encounter lots of reports that indicate "punctures easily" then I avoid buying those brands and models of tires.
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Originally Posted by prj71
I'm half serious.

When I buy tires I do a lot of research on them before buying. When I encounter lots of reports that indicate "punctures easily" then I avoid buying those brands and models of tires.
The funny part is that you believe a sample size of n=1 -- in other words, a single anecdotal experience, with no context about my road conditions or anything else -- would tell you anything useful about the tire's puncture resistance.
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Originally Posted by shelbyfv
I don't think you should buy any tire that costs over $19.95 or has a recognizable brand.
So far I've bought all of my tires at a discounted rate. Either on sale or some ebay dude is selling them way less than retail.

It's rare I pay retail for anything bike related. Recently purchased my Tufo Gravel Thunderos 700 x 44 for $44 each.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
The funny part is that you believe a sample size of n=1 -- in other words, a single anecdotal experience, with no context about my road conditions or anything else -- would tell you anything useful about the tire's puncture resistance.
Like I said. I was being facetious and only half serious. So no...I don't believe one single experience is useful.

Lighten up!!!
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