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Am I Just an Angry Loner?

Old 05-18-24, 09:31 AM
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Maybe you just haven't found someone suitable to ride with you. You know, one other person to get you started, and then working your way up to a larger group.
I think I know just the guy for you. Where's LarrySellerz?
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Old 05-18-24, 09:38 AM
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Cycling's many participants do so for various reasons.
Social connections motivate many.
Group camaraderie or competitiveness can be a strong motivator.
Some people can't change a flat tire, appreciate group efforts.
Is there safety in numbers? Maybe for some.

Groups start too early.
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Old 05-18-24, 09:44 AM
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Nothing wrong with riding alone. Nothing wrong with riding with groups.

I like to trail ride at or even before daybreak. I go rain or shine, hot or cold. I actually like bad weather. I tend to like long solo efforts in things I do whether riding or other pursuits. That lends itself to solitary time.

That said it can be fun to ride with others. It is especially fun to ride on the road or gravel with folks that are compatible enough that drafting allows overall speed to be enhanced for everyone. Even on the trails that can be fun on the less technical sections. That can be for racing or just fun riding.

Find the kind of riding you enjoy and do it with or without others as makes the most sense for you.
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Old 05-18-24, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood

Groups start too early.
This is my biggest problem with local group rides!
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Old 05-18-24, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by seypat
Those groups actually inhabit the roadways and MUPs looking for unsuspecting single riders. When they encounter one, they overtake the rider and give them the Cinzano treatment. It's painful a hoot to watch. It's like something out of a Mad Max movie.
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Old 05-18-24, 10:46 AM
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Large groups on MUPs?
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Group/riding with someone imo isn't for everyone. Unfortunately, it's tougher for a solo rider to be viewed as someone who is "approachable" or hasn't an attitude.

Just for perspective sakes, if one person from the group does something off-putting, illegal, offensive, not acceptable etc then the whole group is labeled.
Additionally, riding in a group tends to have rules, expectations, & other nuances that isn't for everyone either.
if group riding is not really of interest, it might just be better to not participate as the risks might not be worth the reward.

YMMV
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Old 05-18-24, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Wildwood
Some people can't change a flat tire, appreciate group efforts.
Is there safety in numbers?
Groups start too early.
imo, if a flat is too complicated for someone to address, it might be best to ride with a partner that can & is willing to help vs holding up someone from a group to hold back to give assistance.
while I am aware that some groups start early, it's not as common as it once was.
The locals that have an issue with cyclists seem to ride during traffic hour, which is understandable with the frustration. Don't need to add congestion to the already problematic orange barrel season
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Old 05-18-24, 11:16 AM
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Riding in groups requires that schedules be coordinated.

It also means waiting or being waited for.

When someone has a mechanical problem, itís the whole groupís problem.

Just being in the group can be cause for crashes. Which again is something the whole group will have to deal with.

Riding in a group means meeting somewhere, rarely will the group decide to meet at your house.

Itís all good and itís honestly not that big of a deal. I like riding with friends but thatís like 10-15% of my rides. If I just want to get out and back at a certain time with minimal hassle, alone is key.

Nothing angry about it.
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Old 05-18-24, 11:16 AM
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I feel the same way. Sometimes you can't find someone that you really mesh with for rides. I'm getting back on my bike after a year off healing. I had both knees replaced. Problem is here in the South East (Mass) it rains all the f-ing time so my only hope is to get in a day here and a day there. I won't be deterred! Or "the-turd".
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Old 05-18-24, 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MikeDeason
Misapplication of the word anger as I donít feel angry towards them. I find these large packs incomprehensible and surprising would be a better turn of phrase.
Have you ever tried riding with a group?
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Old 05-18-24, 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Have you ever tried riding with a group?
No, but I have read about it on the interweb and it sounds sucky like fun.
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Originally Posted by pepperbelly
Large groups on MUPs?
Yes, large groups of MAMILs with PED enhanced FTPs trying to set KOMs on MUPs riding their fancy UCI approved BSOs. WTF?
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Old 05-18-24, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
yes, large groups of mamils with ped enhanced ftps trying to set koms on mups riding their fancy uci approved bsos. Wtf?
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Originally Posted by Thommy
I feel the same way. Sometimes you can't find someone that you really mesh with for rides.
My wife would divorce me if she found out I was meshing with other riders.
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Old 05-18-24, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by tomato coupe
My wife would divorce me if she found out I was meshing with other riders.
I'm in enough trouble riding by myself.
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Old 05-18-24, 01:22 PM
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I rode alone today. I felt tired, winded, happy, and curious. I never felt angry.

If someone doesn't want to ride in a group because it seems stressful, then cool- ride alone.
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Old 05-18-24, 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Koyote
Have you ever tried riding with a group?
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Old 05-18-24, 02:44 PM
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Freedom, solitude and achieving goals through self-discipline don't mesh well with group dynamics. I want to take a turn when I want, go the speed I want and hop onto a sidewalk if I think it's safer. Can you imagine Rocky in a group training run with Eye of the Tiger blasting? How about Batman achieving the fortitude in group sessions to escape The Pit or Luke Skywalker in daily Force Strengthening classes? Nope Nope and Nope.
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Old 05-18-24, 03:03 PM
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I used to ride with a pretty hard core group when I lived in Charleston South Carolina. I looked forward to those rides. The social interaction was fun and healthy. I'm not an extrovert but I'm not an introvert either. Group rides aren't for everyone.

The main thing that I took away from those rides is the whole dynamic of cycling was different. You had to be on-guard and focused every second. We rode very close together and rotated the traditional way. One day-dream and somebody would lock wheels. I witnessed one really bad fall due to that. The guy was ok but had a chunk of helmet missing and a light concussion.

I also love my solo rides, which is what I primarily do now.
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Old 05-18-24, 03:17 PM
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Just ride. If you want to join a club or a group ride do it. If you want to try riding in a group competitively there are races nearby. Many people will do all three, since training almost always requires riding alone. While competing is easier with more people, unless you just do it based on time. Being angry has to do with your mental state, or physical state. Address those issues or what causes you to be angry(staying on the wrong websites, only getting negative news, bad vibes). Seems like an inflammatory topic/op, but maybe it was done in good faith, so I hope you can enjoy your ride.
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Thought this would be a good question for AI

Enjoying cycling in a group environment offers numerous advantages compared to doing it alone:

1. **Social Interaction**: Engaging in cycling with others provides opportunities to build friendships and strengthen social bonds.

2. **Motivation and Encouragement**: Group members can encourage each other, providing motivation to push harder and stay committed.

3. **Accountability**: Being part of a group can help maintain consistency and adherence to the sport, as members hold each other accountable.

4. **Team Spirit**: Riding as a group fosters a sense of camaraderie and teamwork, which can enhance the overall experience and enjoyment of the sport.

5. **Skill Improvement**: Group settings allow for sharing of techniques and tips, leading to mutual skill enhancement and learning from one another.

6. **Competition**: Friendly competition within a group can improve performance and make the activity more exciting and engaging.

7. **Safety**: Participating with others can enhance safety, as there are people available to help in case of an injury or emergency.

8. **Variety**: Group sports often involve a variety of roles and strategies, adding diversity and complexity to the activity compared to solo participation.

9. **Mental Health Benefits**: Social interaction and support from group members can help reduce stress, anxiety, and feelings of isolation.

10. **Fun and Enjoyment**: Group dynamics often add an element of fun and laughter, making the sporting experience more enjoyable.

11. **Learning Opportunities**: Observing and interacting with others can provide new insights and approaches to the sport that one might not encounter when practicing alone.

12. **Shared Goals**: Working towards common goals, such as improving as a group, can be fulfilling and foster a sense of achievement.

13. **Networking**: Group sports can expand one's social network, providing opportunities for personal and professional connections.

14. **Adaptability**: Cycling with others requires adapting to different playing styles and strategies, enhancing one's versatility in the sport.

15. **Community Building**: Cycling as a group sports can contribute to a sense of belonging and community, creating lasting bonds beyond the sporting activity itself.

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Old 05-18-24, 03:38 PM
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Iím usually a hangry loner. 😎
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Almost all my rides are solo, because I haven't found a group that rides at a speed I can sustain. Twice a year or so I join a group that is really too slow for me, and they take breaks too frequently and for too long. I generally ride half the planned route with them and then make my way back home on my own.
Forty+ years ago, though, I found a group that kept going just a little faster than I was comfortable at; that helped me keep getting faster, which was a goal of mine. The breaks were the right length and at the right time. The group was very welcoming. The conversation was great. They rode every Sunday, and I was with them on most of those Sundays. I rode alone on other days, so I got the best of both.
Riding with a group can be a lot of fun - if you find the right group. You won't find it if you don't look.
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Old 05-18-24, 04:09 PM
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Group rides can be fun if everyone is reasonably within the same fitness level so you can stick together. If I'm too slow, it ends up being a solo ride anyway so I don't bother making the effort to join them. If I'm too "fast" (hah!), I chalk it down to a leisurely social ride.

But if the road is good (not a bike path), and group of similar riders who know WTF they're doing and there's no idiocy, a paceline can be a lot of fun. Even riding with one or two other riders, taking turns pulling, can be a lot of fun.

I've become selective in the groups I make the effort of joining. If they're too fast and are on a ride where they don't care to stick with the slower riders, I'll pass. If I don't firmly believe the riders have good group/paceline skills, I avoid like the plague and will even bow out during the ride.

I don't ride bike paths with groups, maybe a family ride.
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