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vane171 09-27-24 01:57 AM

If the disks were without those holes, you would strip your wheel spokes and frequency of locking your rear or flying over bike's bars when braking front would increase. Holes in the disk also aid in heat dissipation. The design, including the disk size is a balance of compromises all around.

There is only so much stopping power you can have, given the 'flimsy' wheel spokes (cars have solid cast fins connecting hubs to rims) and tiny tire friction surface with the road. Possibly the spokes, not tires are the weakest obstacle in the stopping power you can be given to your disposal.

jaxgtr 09-27-24 06:04 AM


Originally Posted by rosefarts (Post 23357727)
Bicycles have a steel rotor, usually riveted to an aluminum frame to mount to the hub. I recon they’d last a few days at most of the braking surface was aluminum. Totally different forces than rim brakes.


If I recall, Shimano rotors are aluminum with a steel layer for the braking surface, which is why they bend fairly easily, but are pretty light in weight, not to mention the small air scoops they have to aid in cooling. I want to say that SRAM are steel, which is why their design is different for weight considerations and less bulky looking

Ron Damon 09-27-24 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by jaxgtr (Post 23358637)
If I recall, Shimano rotors are aluminum with a steel layer for the braking surface, which is why they bend fairly easily, but are pretty light in weight, not to mention the small air scoops they have to aid in cooling. I want to say that SRAM are steel, which is why their design is different for weight considerations and less bulky looking

Shimano rotors are either all steel (e.g. RT66) or Al/steel composite (e.g. MT800).

jaxgtr 09-27-24 06:51 AM


Originally Posted by Ron Damon (Post 23358655)
Shimano rotors are either all steel (e.g. RT66) or Al/steel composite (e.g. MT800).


Yea I was thinking about the upper end stuff, with the Ice Tech

Darth Lefty 09-27-24 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by rosefarts (Post 23358274)
Last fall on the east side of Bend, OR I melted the edge of a glove after a very white knuckle off road descent...

I am wondering if perhaps the temperature of your brakes is within spec, but your ability to resist touching them is not

Darth Lefty 09-27-24 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by base2 (Post 23357780)
The waviness of the rotors outer edge in all it's stylized forms are to help sweep mud from inside the caliper so it remains clear in filthy conditions.

It's not so dramatic as that. If the outer diameter were a continuous circle there would be a bit of brake pad that never got scraped by a cutout. Even the most prosaic rotors have a notch opposite the end of every arm. They also have a hole in the end of the arm opposing the notch to do the same thing at the inner edge of the pad.

This is the plainest example of a bike rotor I can find right now... still has cutouts

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...0fc99d0f54.png

rosefarts 09-27-24 10:13 AM


Originally Posted by Darth Lefty (Post 23358774)
I am wondering if perhaps the temperature of your brakes is within spec, but your ability to resist touching them is not

It’s the forbidden fruit. If I touch it, it’s going to burn, so I must touch it.

When my wife hands me something from the fridge and tells me to smell it, somehow, I can resist that.

Ron Damon 09-27-24 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by jaxgtr (Post 23358660)
Yea I was thinking about the upper end stuff, with the Ice Tech

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...56bde45ef2.jpg
Composite



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