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Why Do "Dork Discs" Still Exist?
Dork disc = Plastic shield between cassette and spokes
The following photo showed-up on a recent Facebook Marketplace ad, and aside from being astounded as to how large the "dork disc" is, I can't help but wonder why bicycle manufacturers still put them on new bicycles? (The bike in the photo is obviously not new, but I'm pretty sure new bikes still have dork discs.) Back in the 1980s when my bicycles had non-indexed downtube shifters, it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right. However, it's now nearly 2025 and I can't remember the last time any bicycle I've owned over the past few decades has had an issue that a dork disc might help prevent. If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly, the odds of having a chain / spoke issue is nearly non-existent. So why do dork discs still exist? To keep chain lube off the spokes?!??! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a961ca68da.jpg |
Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield
(Post 23414337)
Back in the 1980s when my bicycles had non-indexed downtube shifters, it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right. However, it's now nearly 2025 and I can't remember the last time any bicycle I've owned over the past few decades has had an issue that a dork disc might help prevent. If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly, the odds of having a chain / spoke issue is nearly non-existent. So why do dork discs still exist?
"...it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right." + "If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly...." Limits liability exposure from those owners who can't / won't pay attention to that little detail. |
As of 3 years ago, the last time I worked in a shop, people still wrapped derailleurs into wheels. Bent hangers was cause no.1. Off road bikes it was hangers and sticks.
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Originally Posted by spclark
(Post 23414344)
Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield
(Post 23414337)
Back in the 1980s when my bicycles had non-indexed downtube shifters, it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right. However, it's now nearly 2025 and I can't remember the last time any bicycle I've owned over the past few decades has had an issue that a dork disc might help prevent. If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly, the odds of having a chain / spoke issue is nearly non-existent. So why do dork discs still exist?
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spoke guard
spoke shield spoke fairing hub minder ecliptic gear gear guard infinity ring spoke mate spoke gate Heisenberg compensator |
Originally Posted by BobbyG
(Post 23414357)
spoke shield spoke fairing hub minder ecliptic gear gear guard infinity ring spoke mate spoke gate Heisenberg compensator Ridding an 'uncertainty' factor one cyclist at a time! |
Originally Posted by spclark
(Post 23414344)
My guess? Lawyers.
A dork disc keeps people from ruining their bike ride or breaking components in a common manner. Simple as that. |
Originally Posted by mstateglfr
(Post 23414361)
Not every safety measure is due to meddling lawyers.
A dork disc keeps people from ruining their bike ride or breaking components in a common manner. Simple as that. |
It is an extremely poor substitute for a properly adjusted derailleur. They can also cause issues as they can cause a freehub to not function properly I have seen that a few times in recent years. Essentially those that believe that the cheap plastic disc that ends of cracking and making noise and looks like crap generally is important probably aren't knowledgeable in their bikes enough to know it is isn't. Limit screws work very well like extremely well and if things do get damaged in the end that disc is unlikely to stop much and your derailleur is going to move and likely get damaged or at least your hanger is compromised.
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Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield
(Post 23414337)
So why do dork discs still exist?
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Because dorks needs discs.
Because cassettes are becoming 'dorky sized'? Because dorks don't know what a limit screw is. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...369fb0b0cd.jpg |
Why Do "Dork Discs" Still Exist?
Because bikes still have spokes and rear derailleurs. |
I have a bike, a 1982 Lotus Supreme, for which I have 2 wheelsets. One has a freehub, the other takes a freewheel. The largest cog on the freehub is significantly farther from the spokes then on the freewheel, so if I switch wheelsets and don't adjust the limit screws, I could shift right into the spokes easily. I DON'T run a dork disc, but not everyone is as technically savvy as we are.
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The dork disc on my '13 Trek 1.1 road bike just fell off one day out of the blue. I still rock the dork disc on my Trek Domane S5.
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If you don't want dork discs then get an IGH. Simple eh.
Magic derailleur adjustment is high on the lulu scale with magic spoke adjustment. LOL. |
Originally Posted by Aubergine
(Post 23414350)
Nah. It’s because dorks still exist.
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Originally Posted by PromptCritical
(Post 23414476)
Well, lawyers are protecting the dorks......
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Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53
(Post 23414469)
If you don't want dork discs then get an IGH. Simple eh.
Magic derailleur adjustment is high on the lulu scale with magic spoke adjustment. LOL. |
Originally Posted by PromptCritical
(Post 23414476)
Well, lawyers are protecting the dorks......
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Originally Posted by genejockey
(Post 23414483)
On the plus side, they're easier to remove than lawyer lips on fork tips.
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ecbb4aa711.png |
Originally Posted by PromptCritical
(Post 23414487)
This makes dealing with lawyer lips pretty easy
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ecbb4aa711.png |
Some people want them. There were a few threads here a few years ago with people asking how to change out a broken one.
I've had bikes that had them and bikes without. The don't bother me one way or the other. Does it bother you that I put the plastic cap on my valve stems? Both presta and Schrader! |
We kept dork discs on all our rental bikes. Even though bikes went out the door precisely adjusted, derailleur hangers get bent sometimes.
One downshift with a bent hanger is all it takes to put a derailleur into the spokes. I occasionally had to set up a replacement bike in the evening, then drive through the night to deliver it to an ongoing bike tour. Unpleasant. |
still have one dork disk in place - dork discs rejoice !
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...45883e7c8.jpeg |
Originally Posted by DomaneS5
(Post 23414461)
The dork disc on my '13 Trek 1.1 road bike just fell off one day out of the blue. I still rock the dork disc on my Trek Domane S5.
Besides, it has been well-established that the best way to remove a dork disc is not by rock, but by fire. |
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