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PoorInRichfield 12-14-24 07:21 AM

Why Do "Dork Discs" Still Exist?
 
Dork disc = Plastic shield between cassette and spokes

The following photo showed-up on a recent Facebook Marketplace ad, and aside from being astounded as to how large the "dork disc" is, I can't help but wonder why bicycle manufacturers still put them on new bicycles? (The bike in the photo is obviously not new, but I'm pretty sure new bikes still have dork discs.)

Back in the 1980s when my bicycles had non-indexed downtube shifters, it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right. However, it's now nearly 2025 and I can't remember the last time any bicycle I've owned over the past few decades has had an issue that a dork disc might help prevent. If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly, the odds of having a chain / spoke issue is nearly non-existent. So why do dork discs still exist? To keep chain lube off the spokes?!??!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a961ca68da.jpg

spclark 12-14-24 07:34 AM


Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield (Post 23414337)
Back in the 1980s when my bicycles had non-indexed downtube shifters, it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right. However, it's now nearly 2025 and I can't remember the last time any bicycle I've owned over the past few decades has had an issue that a dork disc might help prevent. If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly, the odds of having a chain / spoke issue is nearly non-existent. So why do dork discs still exist?

My guess? Lawyers.

"...it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right." + "If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly...."

Limits liability exposure from those owners who can't / won't pay attention to that little detail.

TiHabanero 12-14-24 07:35 AM

As of 3 years ago, the last time I worked in a shop, people still wrapped derailleurs into wheels. Bent hangers was cause no.1. Off road bikes it was hangers and sticks.

Aubergine 12-14-24 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by spclark (Post 23414344)

Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield (Post 23414337)
Back in the 1980s when my bicycles had non-indexed downtube shifters, it was quite possible to over-shift the high gear and potentially push the chain into the spokes if the derailleurs high limit screw wasn't set quite right. However, it's now nearly 2025 and I can't remember the last time any bicycle I've owned over the past few decades has had an issue that a dork disc might help prevent. If the rear derailleurs high limit screw is set correctly, the odds of having a chain / spoke issue is nearly non-existent. So why do dork discs still exist?

My guess? Lawyers.

Nah. It’s because dorks still exist.

BobbyG 12-14-24 08:28 AM

spoke guard
spoke shield
spoke fairing
hub minder
ecliptic gear
gear guard
infinity ring
spoke mate
spoke gate
Heisenberg compensator


spclark 12-14-24 08:42 AM


Originally Posted by BobbyG (Post 23414357)
spoke guard
spoke shield
spoke fairing
hub minder
ecliptic gear
gear guard
infinity ring
spoke mate
spoke gate

Heisenberg compensator

Love that'n!

Ridding an 'uncertainty' factor one cyclist at a time!

mstateglfr 12-14-24 08:46 AM


Originally Posted by spclark (Post 23414344)
My guess? Lawyers.

Not every safety measure is due to meddling lawyers.
A dork disc keeps people from ruining their bike ride or breaking components in a common manner. Simple as that.

Koyote 12-14-24 09:32 AM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 23414361)
Not every safety measure is due to meddling lawyers.
A dork disc keeps people from ruining their bike ride or breaking components in a common manner. Simple as that.

And it adds virtually no downside, especially for the recreational riders whose bikes come with them.

veganbikes 12-14-24 09:38 AM

It is an extremely poor substitute for a properly adjusted derailleur. They can also cause issues as they can cause a freehub to not function properly I have seen that a few times in recent years. Essentially those that believe that the cheap plastic disc that ends of cracking and making noise and looks like crap generally is important probably aren't knowledgeable in their bikes enough to know it is isn't. Limit screws work very well like extremely well and if things do get damaged in the end that disc is unlikely to stop much and your derailleur is going to move and likely get damaged or at least your hanger is compromised.

GeezyRider 12-14-24 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by PoorInRichfield (Post 23414337)
So why do dork discs still exist?

To protect riders like Larry Sellers from themselves.

Wildwood 12-14-24 09:59 AM

Because dorks needs discs.
Because cassettes are becoming 'dorky sized'?
Because dorks don't know what a limit screw is.

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...369fb0b0cd.jpg




tomato coupe 12-14-24 11:19 AM

Why Do "Dork Discs" Still Exist?

Because bikes still have spokes and rear derailleurs.

genejockey 12-14-24 11:22 AM

I have a bike, a 1982 Lotus Supreme, for which I have 2 wheelsets. One has a freehub, the other takes a freewheel. The largest cog on the freehub is significantly farther from the spokes then on the freewheel, so if I switch wheelsets and don't adjust the limit screws, I could shift right into the spokes easily. I DON'T run a dork disc, but not everyone is as technically savvy as we are.

DomaneS5 12-14-24 11:50 AM

The dork disc on my '13 Trek 1.1 road bike just fell off one day out of the blue. I still rock the dork disc on my Trek Domane S5.

GamblerGORD53 12-14-24 12:02 PM

If you don't want dork discs then get an IGH. Simple eh.
Magic derailleur adjustment is high on the lulu scale with magic spoke adjustment. LOL.

PromptCritical 12-14-24 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Aubergine (Post 23414350)
Nah. It’s because dorks still exist.

Well, lawyers are protecting the dorks......

genejockey 12-14-24 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by PromptCritical (Post 23414476)
Well, lawyers are protecting the dorks......

On the plus side, they're easier to remove than lawyer lips on fork tips.

indyfabz 12-14-24 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by GamblerGORD53 (Post 23414469)
If you don't want dork discs then get an IGH. Simple eh.
Magic derailleur adjustment is high on the lulu scale with magic spoke adjustment. LOL.

It’s simpler to simply remove a dork disk, eh.

indyfabz 12-14-24 12:32 PM


Originally Posted by PromptCritical (Post 23414476)
Well, lawyers are protecting the dorks......

But who’s protecting the lawyers?

PromptCritical 12-14-24 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 23414483)
On the plus side, they're easier to remove than lawyer lips on fork tips.

This makes dealing with lawyer lips pretty easy

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ecbb4aa711.png

genejockey 12-14-24 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by PromptCritical (Post 23414487)
This makes dealing with lawyer lips pretty easy

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ecbb4aa711.png

As I told a friend, the lawyer lips on my recently built-up LeMond will soon be meeting Mr. File or Mr. Dremel.

Iride01 12-14-24 12:58 PM

Some people want them. There were a few threads here a few years ago with people asking how to change out a broken one.

I've had bikes that had them and bikes without. The don't bother me one way or the other.

Does it bother you that I put the plastic cap on my valve stems? Both presta and Schrader!

terrymorse 12-14-24 01:30 PM

We kept dork discs on all our rental bikes. Even though bikes went out the door precisely adjusted, derailleur hangers get bent sometimes.

One downshift with a bent hanger is all it takes to put a derailleur into the spokes. I occasionally had to set up a replacement bike in the evening, then drive through the night to deliver it to an ongoing bike tour. Unpleasant.

t2p 12-14-24 01:45 PM

still have one dork disk in place - dork discs rejoice !

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...45883e7c8.jpeg

Polaris OBark 12-14-24 01:49 PM


Originally Posted by DomaneS5 (Post 23414461)
The dork disc on my '13 Trek 1.1 road bike just fell off one day out of the blue. I still rock the dork disc on my Trek Domane S5.

Perhaps the best way to prevent this is to stop rocking it.

Besides, it has been well-established that the best way to remove a dork disc is not by rock, but by fire.



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