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Old 08-16-05, 03:01 PM
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The high gas prices only irk me because I have no good way of getting to work without driving to the subway station. Also, if we want to buy decent groceries, the Whole Foods market is around 25-30 min by car. It's really hard to live in this area without driving. Very few provisions have been made for bikes, although it is getting better.
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I reckon as hybrid cars are released that use 30% less fuel, the oil companies will have even more room to raise prices without the public revolting.
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Originally Posted by Crazy Cyclist
It is now 103.9 per litre. I never thought it would get to a dollar per litre. I was in my LBS on Sunday, I got a broken spoke on Saturday and I brought it into the shop yesterday, I get it back tonight. While I was in the shop, I saw about 3-4 people looking at possibly buying bikes, in fact I believe one person had already purchased a bike. I was wondering if maybe they are pissed about the price of gas or they just want a bike, I hope it is both.

You can never have enough bikes on the roads.
You think that is bad, gas here in Oregon is about $2.40.
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Originally Posted by Bikewer
I do bike-patrol for a police department!

That is my dream job!!
I don't know about that... but I am security not police... it might be fun!

Gas here... 3:68 / gallon. I had to drive into LA this morning... 62 miles each way... dumped nearly 16 dollars in fuel going out there...

My car, ford focus gets 18 - 19 city and 23 - 24 highway. I think with a tune up it may go up more. I also could maybe get the foot off the gas a bit but lately I have been driving slow and it has not helped much!
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Old 08-17-05, 04:26 AM
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You think that is bad, gas here in Oregon is about $2.40.
Bear in mind: $1.00 per LITER... there are FOUR LITERS per GALLON.
At $2.40 per gallon, that's about $0.60 per liter.

By the same measure, we're paying over $4.00 per gallon. Even taking into account the exchange rate, it's still nutty - something like $3.32/gallon.
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Old 08-17-05, 07:06 PM
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its still cheap gas in the usa. its about a buck 40 a liter where i live in europe. drive a 1.0 liter, it costs me over bout 60 bucks to fill. now thats insane. no wonder i cycle so much
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Old 08-17-05, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by 77Univega
--- Gasoline prices will ALWAYS continue to get higher as the supply peaks out:
www.peakoil.com/sample/index.html
www.socsci.mcmaster.ca/polisci/gcpr/oilprod.cfm

When gas rationing is implemented, the bicycle will come into its own.

I think oil prices today aren't only based on the physical supply of crude oil left on earth, but production capacities, demand, and most of all: speculation!! but then again, I could be wrong (it happened once).

maybe i'm a non-believer, but I believe I will live to witness the end of the world (and I don't expect to live past 90).

uh oh spaghettios!
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Old 08-30-05, 03:02 PM
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I paid $1.10/liter or $3.45USD/Gal the other day for 87 octane for the family van...

My own car takes only 94 octane though. Its off the road for a while longer, engine work and stuff like that going on. I dont complain though, pay to play in the performance car arena.
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Old 08-30-05, 03:33 PM
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1.34 Euros per liter in France... what are you complaining about.
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I drive 200 miles per week and return 22mpg in my Mercedes 500SL. 300/22x approx.£4 per UK gallon = £36.36.
If I bought a Toyota Yaris I'd return 41mpg. 200/41x £4 = £19.50 making a vast difference of £16.86 per week or £876 per year.
Considering a basic Toyota Yaris starts at £9,000 it would take over 10 years to pay for and that's not including loan interest rates or servicing costs.
Personnly I'd rather have my Mercedes over a Toyota which probably won't be running and I'd still be paying for in 10 years time
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pushing $3.00 for 87 in the Washington, DC area My ((totally awsome)) hyundai accent gets roughly 30mpg. I don't drive it much anymore, but I'm about to relegate it to a weekend only vehicle . . . Looks like I'm going to have to do some reading up on the Commuter/Living Car Free/Winter Riding forums
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Originally Posted by toomanybikes
The equivalent to $101.9 / litre is US $3.22 per US gallon. Remember that the US gallon is 5/6 the size of an Imperial Gallon , why I don't know.
I remember driving from Seattle to Alaska by myself, and to keep my mind busy I tried to convert the price of gas in the interior of Canada along the AlCan from Canadian Dollars and liters to US Dollars and gallons. It kept me busy, and the medications nowadays seems to handle the damage it did to the few brain cells I've got.

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Originally Posted by Mentor58
I remember driving from Seattle to Alaska by myself, and to keep my mind busy I tried to convert the price of gas in the interior of Canada along the AlCan from Canadian Dollars and liters to US Dollars and gallons. It kept me busy, and the medications nowadays seems to handle the damage it did to the few brain cells I've got.

Steve
that's probably because you tried to use traditional mathematics. If you had used bistromathematics you could have saved yourself a lot of heartache (and brain cells).
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Originally Posted by gurana
pushing $3.00 for 87 in the Washington, DC area My ((totally awsome)) hyundai accent gets roughly 30mpg. I don't drive it much anymore, but I'm about to relegate it to a weekend only vehicle . . . Looks like I'm going to have to do some reading up on the Commuter/Living Car Free/Winter Riding forums
Gas hit $2.87 a gallon here today (from about $2.50 yesterday). My car is small and gets good gas mileage, too, but I'm with you on using it weekends only. Gas prices may be rising, but my paycheck sure isn't!
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Originally Posted by CrimsonEclipse
Forget about the gluttenous dino burners, our efforts should be to make a network
of bike paths that are not exposed to exhaust of the road and are useful for basic
transportation.


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Most places already have a great network of bike usable paths that are useful for basic transportation. They call them roads however. All they need to do is prohibit motor vehicles from using them and voila instant bike paths.
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I think the real solution to it all is alternative energy.
Perhaps there will come a day when we live in a cleaner world because gas is 20 dollars a gallon
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Gasoline prices high or is it just me? Gas is like cocaine.
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Originally Posted by 49er
Gasoline prices high or is it just me? Gas is like cocaine.
Cocaine is a beautiful drug . . .
To be honest though, it's fairly underpriced when you think about it. I bet it could get up to . . . perhaps $5 before the average person would seriously consider alternative methods of transportation. I'm not even kidding. I see it all the time on local TV news interviews. People griping about the cost, but still driving around in a <17mpg tank. They say things like, "it's rediculous how expensive it is". They don't say it, but to me that indicates that either they believe that there's really no alternative, or they're unwilling to consider the alternatives. No ****, people are cutting other things out of their lives, like gym memberships, or going to the movies, to pay for their gasoline. This in itself is rediculous because really what they are doing is saving money so it can be figuratively burned. What's worse, is people are more willing to trade in hours off their life in the form of over-time work in order to throw money at the gas companies.

On the brighter side of things, I hear reports from various sources that GM, ford and co. aren't selling as many SUVs, which is really their big money makers, so there seems to be some reversal of this trend. SUVs are BS anyways. They save money by essentially building a machine that is big enough to circumvent emission standards for smaller vehicles. Amongst other things, the SUV boom of the mid 90s can be considered a contributing factor to the situation we're in now. Economically, a good move on their part, although it essentially sold out our well being in the short term. It was cheaper for them to build larger versions of their current vehichles than to spend on R&D to get future vehicles to meet emissions requirements. This is evident in that many SUVs are based on a producers smaller cars (i.e., the Hyundai Santa Fe is based on the Hyundai Sonata).
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$1.30 per litre here in Australia and the paper states that $1.60 is on the way

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On the brighter side of things, I hear reports from various sources that GM, ford and co. aren't selling as many SUVs, which is really their big money makers, so there seems to be some reversal of this trend. SUVs are BS anyways. They save money by essentially building a machine that is big enough to circumvent emission standards for smaller vehicles. Amongst other things, the SUV boom of the mid 90s can be considered a contributing factor to the situation we're in now. Economically, a good move on their part, although it essentially sold out our well being in the short term. It was cheaper for them to build larger versions of their current vehichles than to spend on R&D to get future vehicles to meet emissions requirements. This is evident in that many SUVs are based on a producers smaller cars (i.e., the Hyundai Santa Fe is based on the Hyundai Sonata).
Thank God finally these SUV's are not selling which i hate so much. Hate it when your behind one of these boxes in traffic can't see in front of them like normal cars.
In the 70's people bought cube vans and painted mirrols on the outside with lounge chairs inside which people thought were cool. Now these SUV's people bought so they could see above everyone else in traffic. My thought or rule is never ever let one of these SUV's cut in front of you in traffic or yield to one as courtesy for any reason. I would allow ten other cars cut in front of me then one SUV keep them off the road when I'm driving.

Anyone heard of bio-diesel i here some guys drive for free. They get there corn oil from restaurants and get good miliage something like 1000km on a tank of oil. Can you image everyone changed there vehicles to bio-diesel what a smell would bicyclist breath or smell like after riding in traffic all day. Probably like urine.
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Originally Posted by gurana
Cocaine is a beautiful drug . . .
To quote Robin Williams, "Cocaine is God's way of telling you that you have too much money." Maybe we have too much $ to spend on gas these days?
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Originally Posted by 49er
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Anyone heard of bio-diesel i here some guys drive for free. They get there corn oil from restaurants and get good miliage something like 1000km on a tank of oil. Can you image everyone changed there vehicles to bio-diesel what a smell would bicyclist breath or smell like after riding in traffic all day. Probably like urine.

http://www.greasecar.com/

Drive around smelling like donuts. ;p
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Originally Posted by toomanybikes
Remember that the US gallon is 5/6 the size of an Imperial Gallon , why I don't know.
Probably for the same reason your Canuckistan "dollar" is only worth 3/4 of a real Dollar.
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Originally Posted by gurana
On the brighter side of things, I hear reports from various sources that GM, ford and co. aren't selling as many SUVs, which is really their big money makers, so there seems to be some reversal of this trend. SUVs are BS anyways. They save money by essentially building a machine that is big enough to circumvent emission standards for smaller vehicles. Amongst other things, the SUV boom of the mid 90s can be considered a contributing factor to the situation we're in now. Economically, a good move on their part, although it essentially sold out our well being in the short term. It was cheaper for them to build larger versions of their current vehichles than to spend on R&D to get future vehicles to meet emissions requirements. This is evident in that many SUVs are based on a producers smaller cars (i.e., the Hyundai Santa Fe is based on the Hyundai Sonata).
Hopefully the market keeps demanding the smaller vehicles. IF customers keep buying large SUVs, the manufacturers will keep building them. If customers start demanding more fuel efficient, sensibly-sized vehicles, they'll build those.

GM Holden in Australia has been developing a new global rear-drive vehicle platform, Zeta. GM USA had said they were going to adopt it, but a couple of months back they pulled the plug at the last minute leaving GM-H a bit high and dry on the development costs, saying instead that they would be concentrating on more SUVs since that's what the US customers were buying. A couple of weeks ago they came back to GM Australia saying they were dropping some of the new SUV development and would be buying the new Zeta platform afterall...
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