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tomato coupe 04-15-26 01:31 PM


Originally Posted by chaadster (Post 23728683)
Aw, c'mon Chuck, don't give up now! You can do it, Charlie Brown!

What does that have to do with anything?

chaadster 04-15-26 01:51 PM


Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 23728684)
What does that have to do with anything?

Do you ever lay awake in bed at night asking yourself questions you can't answer, and hear that little voice inside your head say, "Who are you talking to?"

MaxKatt 04-15-26 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by Steel Charlie (Post 23727795)
Yeah, there is a certain reality that is being ignored. I have lifetime friends who have passed on lucrative promotions in other parts of th US for geographical reasons. One, who worked for Ford, took the job, stuck with it for nearly a year, and then returned to a place in the 21st Century. And I have some Brit friends whom I most likely will never see again.
I would be reluctant to return to the state where I was born, driving my car with California plates.

Ah, well

_________

It's a thing. My family has long done everything they could to keep me out of anywhere in Mexico out of safety concerns.

I've had friends reject corporate overseas assignments both for safety...and even air pollution concerns.

Doesn't surprise me one bit that some people globally might now be thinking US is not a great place to visit.

I have a gay friend here/US with Irish heritage who just got citizenship in Ireland in case things turn south here for her and her wife. She wasn't born in Ireland, never lived there...but she's prepared to jump.


indyfabz 04-15-26 03:16 PM

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drlogik 04-15-26 03:16 PM

I know this is harsh but it's how I really feel about this action.

To make a conscious decision to bike through Afghanistan at best is a foolish and dangerous decision. The likelihood of this man making it out alive is at best 50/50, and that's if he's lucky. This kind of adventure through Afghanistan doesn't take guts, it takes a mindless, ignorant fool. The US Tax payers should not have their tax dollars spent to get this guy home.

What does he think is going to happen there? I'm serious, what does he think could happen to him?

I hope he makes it.


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indyfabz 04-15-26 03:19 PM

93.13% of probabilities are made up.

genejockey 04-15-26 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 23728752)
93.13% of probabilities are made up.

I'd like to see the 95% CI on that,

chaadster 04-15-26 03:41 PM


Originally Posted by drlogik (Post 23728749)
The likelihood of this man making it out alive is at best 50/50, and that's if he's lucky.

Pfft! That's ridiculous! It's nowhere near that dangerous!

drlogik 04-15-26 03:59 PM


Pfft! That's ridiculous! It's nowhere near that dangerous!
The U.S. Dept. of State issued a Level 4 - Do Not Travel advisory back in February for Afghanistan. You must know something that nobody in our Government knows. I generally don't trust the Government but on something like this I do.

indyfabz 04-15-26 04:03 PM


Originally Posted by drlogik (Post 23728782)
You must know something that nobody in our Government knows.

Way to set the bar low. :innocent::lol:

I Like To Ride 04-15-26 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by drlogik (Post 23728749)
The likelihood of this man making it out alive is at best 50/50, and that's if he's lucky.
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50/50 is average....There is place called Sentinel Island where the chances for any outsider or visitor of making it out alive are zero. Only a person with suicidal tendencies would go there.

genejockey 04-15-26 04:07 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 23728783)
Way to set the bar low. :innocent::lol:

Especially given the current war on expertise.

genejockey 04-15-26 04:11 PM


Originally Posted by I Like To Ride (Post 23728784)
50/50 is average....There is place called Sentinel Island where the chances for any outsider or visitor of making it out alive are zero. Only a person with suicidal tendencies would go there.

Reminds me of the exchange in the first "Pirates of the Caribbean" movie, where someone says that the stories say the captain of the Black Pearl never leaves any survivors.

Capt, Jack Sparrow says, "“Never leaves any survivors No survivors? Then where do the stories come from. I wonder."

veganbikes 04-15-26 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by I Like To Ride (Post 23728784)
50/50 is average....There is place called Sentinel Island where the chances for any outsider or visitor of making it out alive are zero. Only a person with suicidal tendencies would go there.

That is a protected area with a uncontacted tribe. It seems like a poor place to bike tour or bikepack anyway as it is a small island and the Indian government doesn't allow people in for that very reason.


I Like To Ride 04-15-26 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by _Alan (Post 23727397)

Even if I could do this ride, I could not do this ride…

Same here. I have no interest in visiting and travelling through a country that has been torn apart by pointless wars and is now governed and controlled by radical jihadists. I am sure there are millions of good people there who haven't done anything wrong but they are just caught up in this mess which is no fault of their own, but I would still not go there.

I Like To Ride 04-15-26 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by Jughed (Post 23728583)
sure - I could get clubbed over the head here, have my bike stolen... but still be in the USA. Where I could call someone to pick me up... get an uber, talk to the police.

If they clubbed you over the head with an intent to rob you they would most likely take not only your bicycle but also your smartphone, your wallet, your credit cards etc and you wouldn't be able to call police or call for help. Also depending on what they used as a club and how hard they hit you, you might not even be alive or you might be in deep coma.

I Like To Ride 04-15-26 05:27 PM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 23728794)
That is a protected area with a uncontacted tribe. It seems like a poor place to bike tour or bikepack anyway as it is a small island and the Indian government doesn't allow people in for that very reason.

Just because the government forbids it doesn't mean that some adventurous rule breaker who likes high-risk adventures can't sneak in there.

Velo Mule 04-15-26 05:53 PM

I enjoyed the story and especially the pictures. I wouldn't go there myself, even when I was young and bold, but this guy, Ryan is handling this well. He seems to have experience traveling in different countries with different cultures. One thing that i will note is that he seemed to say, that people that he encountered had little hostility, and by and large there was overwhelmingly hospitable. It is also interesting that Ryan commented that he told a local man that this was the most beautiful place he had ever seen and the man responded that he thought that he'd like to go to New York City for a beautiful place. We always wish for what is just out of reach. I'm looking forward to reading more.

I've traveled to many countries. Nothing like Afghanistan, but each trip had tense moments and surprisingly good moments. The good times far outweighed the bad or tense times.




indyfabz 04-15-26 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 23728786)
Especially given the current war on expertise.

I just teleported to Waffle House. ​​​​​​Can I get you anything?

bboy314 04-15-26 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by drlogik (Post 23728749)
The US Tax payers should not have their tax dollars spent to get this guy home.


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I’ve got some bad news re: your tax dollars in Afghanistan…

Koyote 04-15-26 06:05 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 23728838)
I just teleported to Waffle House. ​​​​​​

Just say no to drugs.

drlogik 04-15-26 06:12 PM


I've got some bad news re: your tax dollars in Afghanistan
I am well aware, and that is a different discussion.

indyfabz 04-15-26 07:10 PM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 23728841)
Just say no to drugs.

Why? I could be Mayor of D.C.

big john 04-15-26 07:24 PM

I remembered reading about a bikepacking adventure in Bike magazine years ago. They had similar experiences with the locals as did the author in the OPs' story.
I googled it to see the date and it was 2013. While I googled it I saw several other stories about traveling through Afghanistan by bike. Read a bit of them and the same theme. Locals were friendly, curious, and generous and the Taliban were watchful but not cruel and actually supplied tea and even food to the cyclists.

I'm not saying it's not dangerous but I've read many stories of people bikepacking in remote areas all over the world and their interactions with the citizens has been overwhelmingly positive. I did read one about Russia where the guys tried to ride into Siberia and were turned away by rifle toting guards.

indyfabz 04-15-26 07:49 PM

BITD, while riding across the country, our little group camped in the city park in tiny Ione, WA. No one but myself and the former CHiP who was part of the group noticed the hand-to-hand drug transactions that took place. Much later in the trip, he and I were the only ones who rode the optional mileage in Cleveland up through Cleveland and Shaker Heights. Everyone else was too scared of the perils of the “big city”.


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