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VegasJen 04-25-26 12:20 AM

Paint or wrap?
 
I know this might be better in the Bicycle Mechanics section if I was looking for technical advice but this is more about personal preference so thought I would throw it out to the general forum.

I love my Shiv (tri bike). I have a couple other tri bikes, one newer, one older, but there is just something about this Shiv that it just "clicks" with me. Even though it's old (as far as tri bikes are concerned) and I'm old (and fat, and slow), I just love this bike. The ONLY thing I don't like about it is that the base color is black. I'm personally not a fan of the blacked out look. I like colors.

I'm thinking I want to add some color to the bike. I really like some of the color shift paints (or wraps) I see on some of the Cervelos and Quintana Roos. Now, if I was just going to go with a single color, like white, I imagine it would be pretty easy to just strip off the top coat from this bike and rattle can the white of my choice over bare CF. But being that I kind of like that color shift look, I think that would be quite a bit more tricky to do with rattle cans.

So the question is, what would be better? Strip it of all the hardware and let somebody wrap it? Or sand down the clear at home and shoot it with some Krylon? Andbody have any experience with this?

TiHabanero 04-25-26 03:15 AM

Wrap will be more durable. Rattle can paint can be brittle and easy to scratch or chip up. Certain colors in rattle can do better than others.
Wrap is expensive. A professional paint job is expensive. I vote for wrap.

indyfabz 04-25-26 04:13 AM

#Cerakote

skidder 04-25-26 07:48 AM

Just my 2-cents: If its a carbon-fiber frame like is shown on Specialized's website, I wouldn't work on it myself. As for coating I'd take it to a body shop and get it painted. And expect a two-tone 'fade' job to cost more. If it was an AL or steel frame I'd say get it powder coated.

Steel Charlie 04-25-26 08:08 AM

Massive number of threads about painting on the C&V forum

veganbikes 04-25-26 12:14 PM

If it is a Specialized bike and you are the original owner go to HotTubes or Black Magic Paint or one of the other approved painters from their list so that way you keep your lifetime frame warranty and get a really sick paint job in the process. Otherwise if you aren't the original owner or just don't care (which is silly) then do whatever. If I am painting at home I am going to spring for the Spray.Bike paint

njkayaker 04-25-26 12:26 PM


Originally Posted by VegasJen (Post 23734031)
I really like some of the color shift paints (or wraps) I see on some of the Cervelos and Quintana Roos.

I doubt these are "wraps".


Originally Posted by VegasJen (Post 23734031)
Now, if I was just going to go with a single color, like white, I imagine it would be pretty easy to just strip off the top coat from this bike and rattle can the white of my choice over bare CF. But being that I kind of like that color shift look, I think that would be quite a bit more tricky to do with rattle cans.

Does this ever look anything other than crap?


Originally Posted by VegasJen (Post 23734031)
The ONLY thing I don't like about it is that the base color is black. I'm personally not a fan of the blacked out look. I like colors.

Seems like it might make more sense to live with it rather than go through the expense of getting an equivalent finish or having it look worse.

You shouldn't be paying that much attention to the color while riding it.

At least, the "blacked out look" is fairly popular and fairly timeless. So, it's not like it would bother other people.

indyfabz 04-25-26 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by Steel Charlie (Post 23734137)
Massive number of threads about painting on the C&V forum

But not enough mainstream attention.

squirtdad 04-25-26 05:31 PM

Has anyone ever wrapped a bike? Did it come out well? Pictures? truly curious

I am sure a lot have tried, but I would think that a bike would be exceedingly hard to wrap with all the small tight curved surfaces. Car wraps cover large areas with few if any tight curves like on a bike

maybe instead of painting the entire bike, do some bits a color accent?

njkayaker 04-25-26 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by squirtdad (Post 23734399)
Has anyone ever wrapped a bike? Did it come out well? Pictures? truly curious

An internet search shows wrap kits for sale (at fairly reasonable prices). So, somebody has wrapped a bike (almost certainly).

VegasJen 04-25-26 10:06 PM


Originally Posted by skidder (Post 23734119)
Just my 2-cents: If its a carbon-fiber frame like is shown on Specialized's website, I wouldn't work on it myself. As for coating I'd take it to a body shop and get it painted. And expect a two-tone 'fade' job to cost more. If it was an AL or steel frame I'd say get it powder coated.

I don't really want a fade. What I'm looking for, I'm sure you've seen some of those Teslas that look white-ish but depending on the angle of the sun can be green, blue, yellow or orange. Pretty sure that is some kind of a wrap.

Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 23734255)
If it is a Specialized bike and you are the original owner go to HotTubes or Black Magic Paint or one of the other approved painters from their list so that way you keep your lifetime frame warranty and get a really sick paint job in the process. Otherwise if you aren't the original owner or just don't care (which is silly) then do whatever. If I am painting at home I am going to spring for the Spray.Bike paint

Not the original owner.

Originally Posted by njkayaker (Post 23734263)
I doubt these are "wraps".


Does this ever look anything other than crap?


Seems like it might make more sense to live with it rather than go through the expense of getting an equivalent finish or having it look worse.

You shouldn't be paying that much attention to the color while riding it.

At least, the "blacked out look" is fairly popular and fairly timeless. So, it's not like it would bother other people.

I don't want to live with it, but that's why I'm asking. I also don't want it to look like poo, either.

Originally Posted by squirtdad (Post 23734399)
Has anyone ever wrapped a bike? Did it come out well? Pictures? truly curious

I am sure a lot have tried, but I would think that a bike would be exceedingly hard to wrap with all the small tight curved surfaces. Car wraps cover large areas with few if any tight curves like on a bike

maybe instead of painting the entire bike, do some bits a color accent?

I believe my BMC is a wrap. I can't say for sure because I can't find any seem where the wrap joins around a tube. But there is a distinct "seam" where it goes from color to the base black. Plus, all the labels on it look integrated into the color. They are not individual stickers on paint.

Duragrouch 04-25-26 11:22 PM

The paint that changes colors from different lighting angles is paint, been around for 30 years(?) now I think. I call it cameleon paint, I don't know the proper name. Might exist as part of a wrap, I don't know.

Gosh I wouldn't try to strip a composite frame. Even with metal, it's a big mess. Rattlecan paint is not durable, trust me, every bike I owned before my first good one at age 28 was stripped and rattlecan painted. A durable paint needs to be baked on. Bike Friday powdercoats their frame for ease of changing colors. I would worry about heat of any kind on a composite frame. But a painter that does composites could tell you for sure. But any existing decals or design paint over the base coat, will print through if not removed. Sketchy.

A wrap can look perfect, if no wrinkles. Many decades ago, a project car at Car & Driver, to do the mirrors, the painter painted some kind of plastic and then heat-shrunk it onto the mirror housing. But again, heat and your composite frame, I wouldn't risk. So I would choose a wrap that coordinates well with the current color, and just do the areas of the tubes that are not compound curves, so the material does not need to stretch.

If done professionally, a really good paint job could cost more than buying a duplicate frame in the colors you want, or commissioning a titanium frame from custom makers in china where others have sourced them. I don't know about the possibility of custom composite frames.

Look before you leap. Make sure you ask plenty of questions.

"To find the expert, pick the one who says it'll cost the most and take the longest time."

Steel Charlie 04-26-26 09:14 AM

https://www.bikeforums.net/bicycle-m...frame-set.html

VegasJen 04-26-26 12:46 PM


Originally Posted by Steel Charlie (Post 23734702)

Now, see, that's very much what I'm looking for. I see a lot of Cervelos and QRs with that finish. What I'd like to do is more of a white base with like an iridescent coat. And I know what people say about rattle can. No doubt it's not as good as true commercial quality paint applied in a booth by a professional. But I have had some good results with meticulous preparation. It will take longer to prep and may not last as long as a professional job, but this is also not an automotive or commercial application.

There's a place locally that does wraps. I'm going to take the bike to him and see what he says. If he thinks he can do it, I will probably just pay the man. If not, I might go rattle can.

pdlamb 04-26-26 08:25 PM

Since I don't know, let me ask:

Will a wrapped bike that's ridden in rain occasionally have more rust problems than a painted bike over the long haul?


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